Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

If you know how to take a screen pic, a pic of the TF screen after you gave them "get out of Dodge" orders might really help.

One guess is that they were still unloading supplies. The will not leave until unloading finishes. You can just "Cancel" unloading (look for the button nearby) to overcome that.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Check the manual for rates of movement in various types of terrain - the unit type makes a difference. In Jungle and especially Jungle/Rough movement will be very slow and your troops will suffer fatigue up to about 30, disruption up to about 12. Some of this is malaria effects. You can only reduce this by putting your troops in rest or reserve mode (but do not cancel the destination set - they will continue to move in those modes, but more slowly).

IIRC the barely visible Kokoda track between Buna and Port Moresby acts like a dirt road - units can cover up to 15 miles a day on it. This is not historic and does not fit the terrain type, but players were reporting this kind of movement rate.

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Check the manual for rates of movement in various types of terrain - the unit type makes a difference. In Jungle and especially Jungle/Rough movement will be very slow and your troops will suffer fatigue up to about 30, disruption up to about 12. Some of this is malaria effects. You can only reduce this by putting your troops in rest or reserve mode (but do not cancel the destination set - they will continue to move in those modes, but more slowly).

IIRC the barely visible Kokoda track between Buna and Port Moresby acts like a dirt road - units can cover up to 15 miles a day on it. This is not historic and does not fit the terrain type, but players were reporting this kind of movement rate.

In Uncommon Valor Kokoda is a trail, but WITP doesn't have trails.

UV had regular roads and trails, but not highways.

WITP has highways and regular roads, but no trails.

There was also a far heavier supply attrition across terrain without roads in UV.

It was almost impossible to supply a land move from PM to Wau in UV.

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ORIGINAL: US87891

The DBB series addressed some of that with the May 2014 release. It fakes a trail by using the “track” code which was originally intended to represent a railroad right-of-way. It’s probably better than what was really there but it is substantially worse than a secondary road.

There is a ‘track’ leaving Buna headed towards Kokoda. There is a ‘track’ leaving PM headed towards Kokoda. The Kokoda hex is empty of any road or track type. We also changed the Kokoda hex terrain from jungle+rough to jungle+mountain. It is a real horror show to get through.

It was too much of a good thing and in subsequent scenarios we extended the Buna ‘track’ to the right half of the Kokoda hex. The ‘track’ therefore goes from Buna to Kokoda center, but the left half of the Kokoda hex remains devoid of anything until one reaches the ‘track-head’ at the boundary of the PM hex. It feels a touch smoother/better, but troop and supply movement between Buna and PM remains quite problematic due to the imposing half-hex of jungle filled mountains.

[ed] AndyMac used our data files for his updated scenarios. I do not know if he did an extended map version of those but if so he would have used our 2014 pwhexe.

Matt

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Check the manual for rates of movement in various types of terrain - the unit type makes a difference. In Jungle and especially Jungle/Rough movement will be very slow and your troops will suffer fatigue up to about 30, disruption up to about 12. Some of this is malaria effects. You can only reduce this by putting your troops in rest or reserve mode (but do not cancel the destination set - they will continue to move in those modes, but more slowly).

IIRC the barely visible Kokoda track between Buna and Port Moresby acts like a dirt road - units can cover up to 15 miles a day on it. This is not historic and does not fit the terrain type, but players were reporting this kind of movement rate.

In Uncommon Valor Kokoda is a trail, but WITP doesn't have trails.

UV had regular roads and trails, but not highways.

WITP has highways and regular roads, but no trails.

There was also a far heavier supply attrition across terrain without roads in UV.

It was almost impossible to supply a land move from PM to Wau in UV.

??? Why are you bringing up UV Hans? Did you mean AE?

I realize there are no "trails" in the game, but players were reporting that their LCUs were making the trip between PM and Buna (both ways) far faster than should have been possible in Jungle/Rough terrain. Something is happening where the historic Kokoda Track was.

I remember some players wanting to have the worm-hole fixed, while others said leave it alone. I don't know if subsequent updates and patches changed it.

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

Could it be that trails were dropped because they were already factored into new movement rates for the scale of AE?