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RE: Turn 6 Summary - 12/11/2016 8:10:03 PM   
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RE: Turn 7 - 12/14/2016 9:12:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the comments and advice.

unfortunately, I had to do more counterattacking this turn more than I wanted to. I am quickly seeing the costs of these withering attacks. I can only hope that they don't cause a huge breakthrough. My goals in the attacks were to drive enemy morale, combat values, supply, movement points, and to save units. I did quite a bit of bombing of HQ's too.

Clearly, I don't want to do as much in the near future! Lets see if it really costs me.

Turn 7 -
1. Germans manage to pocket a couple dozen divisions near Smolensk. Reds launch withering counterattack and at least temporarily save half of the divisions, brushing aside the pincer. Still probably lose many of those divisions. The one upside is that the enemy army group is nearly all red morale now and I have pushed bac some of the units with units that on a coupon basis are vastly inferior. But I take the feedback seriously. I am - of course - curious how aggressive the enemy will be with an entire army group with low morale.
2. There was another large scrum on the Dnieper south of kiev. the ruskies and Germans played te same attrition game, and much or that enemy army group suffered from lower morales. Only time can tell how effective and if that is a win for the enemy or the Russians.
3. On the approaches to Leningrad the enemy pushed a couple hexes frther into the marsh and are about past the lake. I did not build forts early enough and expect to lose Leningrad. only a miracle can save her now.
4. I began building defenses at Moscow including spending APs on a bunch of forts. I also pushed up about 5 armies worth of reinforcements to the MLR to broaden the defense in depth.


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Pravda Headlines - 12/14/2016 10:30:39 PM   
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RE: Pravda Headlines - 12/14/2016 10:32:13 PM   
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Leningrad Approaches - 12/14/2016 10:41:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Enemy does a slog approach. I do a couple counterattacks which probably were a bad idea just to grind morale


The displayed Russian victory highlights an issue I have - why aren't my fighters supporting my bombers in these defensive situations




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Smoensk - 12/14/2016 10:55:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Russians expended quite a bit of men and material this last turn around Smolensk, prompted by the pincer encirclement of a couple dozen divisions. I decided to counterattack and bring up reinforcements rather than let the several armies go. Only 10 divisions are still in the pocket - but of course his turn in next.

I also bombed every HQ for all it was worth to reduce effectiveness.

I would actually prefer a major battle in the pocket rather than pushing east. 9 more turns until mud!




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Kiev area - 12/14/2016 11:06:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Germans have fought in the scrum for three turns and are effectively past kiev / moving east very slow under heavy resistance. Lots of moral grinding fighting. risks still exist because of the number of units the enemy has.

Note the lack of army integrity. Havent had the points to completely fix. hoping next turn.




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Turn 7 grand view - 12/14/2016 11:07:30 PM   
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RE: Turn 7 Losses - 12/14/2016 11:24:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Obviously Ruskies are way behind considering units doomed in first several turns.




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Turn 8 - 12/17/2016 4:17:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Germans engage in heavy combat across the line, with heavy casualties for Russians, creating the single largest turn of German casualties.
1. As expected the Axis blew a hole in the in the thin defenses on the south side of Lake Peipus and exploited east. The lead elements are four hexes from Leningrad. No pocket was created
2. Germans constrict the Smolensk pocket, trapping 13 divisions. 12 more get away. general eastward advance towards Moscow
3. Axis create a double pincer north and south of Cherkassey

Russian turn expended in withdrawing and straightening the line so that pocketing isn't easy. I also reorganized armies and fronts for a solid army structure with all units in command range.

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Turn 8 - North - 12/17/2016 4:27:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a pictograph of that winning Germans bustthrough attack near Leningrad. Not much I could do. I ran out of unit density.




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Turn 8 - Moscow Bryansk - 12/17/2016 4:36:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Germnay pushed forward with general linear attack and finished closing the Smolensk pocket. Half of te pocketed divisions ended up getting away. The remainder will hold on as long as possible.




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RE: Turn 8 - Kiev - 12/17/2016 4:43:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Germans develop double pincer but do not close it. Russians withdrawal in good order and reorganize




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Turn 9 - 12/18/2016 1:22:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 9 had the same basic themes of the prior 2 turns.
1. Leningrad isolated
2. continued push to Moscow
3. Continued SE push towards Rostov

The passive Russian status over the last few turns combined with the defense in depth is forcing the enemy for fight units in forts, materially slowing him down. But he continues to try to conduct pincer movements, which I have no meaningful answer other than retreat. The Russian air force has completely removed the biplanes and old fighters from its mix and begun the unit rotation as morale falls below 50. The building around Moscow and Sevastopol continues and should make for very slow progress. 6 more turns of good weather suggests I will have to take back Moscow in the winter counteroffensive. To date I have only lost factories in Minsc - all other threatened factories have been moved

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Turn 9 Leningrad - 12/18/2016 1:29:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the isolation picture. I noted the effectitve strength of the isolated units and supply. Which they are by far the strongest in the game. I am hoping it takes him 3- weeks to reduce.
Depends on if he pushes armor beyond the city or uses it to reduce it.




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Turn 9 Moscow - 12/18/2016 1:37:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the current Moscow view. Looking more like Moscow goes down before the weather falls.




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Turn 9 Total View - 12/18/2016 1:48:00 PM   
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Turn 10 Aug 21 1941 - 12/19/2016 6:09:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Same fiddle was played this last turn no new tactics by the enemy.

A little insight how I run my turn -
1. air units - move low morale units to the national reserve, and pull back in good units, do upgrades
2. strategic movement - units refitting are moved to staging areas - at present all are going to Moscow, note don't move them until their morale shows up green
3. factory evacuation - use remaining rail points to move as much as possible
4. move vacant army commands to staging areas
5 move troops - maintain defense in depth (3 hexes desired + where enemy is in pincer mode
6. counterattack distinct hexes only where it is likely I can win and leave token units behind where enemy has to attack hex
7. withdrawal slow enough that forts always in play
8. relocate airbases and HQs




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10 - Leningrad - 12/19/2016 6:16:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		So I feel as good as I can about the isolated fortress - time will tell what enemy will do, as they don't have the forces amassed to take her head on.






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RE: 10 - Moscow - 12/19/2016 6:27:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I figure the battle of Moscow begins with the first turn of September. Loo below for my current dispositions and plans. WIll be bringing all available troops to the sector throughout September. have already begun evacuating some industry in the event she falls.

I am hoping to hold out until the end of the good weather at the end of Sepember, and then plan from there.




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Turn 11 - 12/24/2016 1:10:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I forgot to post turn 11, but it was more of the same themes.

Leningrad reduction begins
German pincers on Moscow and towards Stalino area (Still far off.)

Anyways 12 is done

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Turn 12 September 4 1941 - 12/24/2016 1:21:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Being the inexperienced player that I am having played only once before through 1943 as Reds, I have struggled to learn concepts well known to seasoned players. Following are revelations I stumbled on this past turn
1. Many soviet units have TOE's set to 20% - <90% as they come in. Duh! I finally realized that and reset them to where they needed to go. It will cost me though. And no wonder some of my units weren't strengthening! Pretty bad on my part and limiting my ability to selectively counterattack
2. Built VVS airbase to cover the entire front - and built two transport squadrons. Partisans up to 28 units as a result without limiting the use of other airframes needed in the general war (I consider this a modest success)
3. As I continue to evacuate and relocate factories, I have stumbled on the differences between what I move and what is setup. Example, I moved the T34's from Kharkov in total to preserve them, and the next turn, that relocated factory was producing 20 more tanks. Huh? I moved one point of a few other AFV's and aircraft to save them from the onslaught - minor platforms that werent building much. many of htem went to 60 to 90 points when moved, and now wont be producing until spring. Huh? I moved Mig3 from Moscow, and the factory went from 30 to 90 and now is disabled during repair - DRADT!

I wonder what I will learn over the next few turns.

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Turn 12 September 4 1941 Summary - 12/24/2016 1:26:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		The battle for Moscow begins!

Russians pour in reinforcements into Moscow sector.
More than 70% of Russian Airpower centered on Moscow
Russian counterattack around Moscow has surprising success.
Russian select counterattacks succeed further south on the plains
Russian Defense in depth in place except in far north
Leningrad / Vologdagrad sector is a Russian Disaster
Russia is building extensive fortifications around Moscow

Russia gets first three guard units - all airbases

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AIR GUARDS - 12/24/2016 1:39:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd have to say that the one thing in the war that seems to be progressing satisfactorily is soviet airpower. 3 guard airbases already as a result of the dedicated ground support and interdiction program - combined with refreshing low morale units (below national morale of 45) into the national reserve




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Top air units - 12/24/2016 1:40:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		And here is a view of the most experienced and highest morale air units




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12 - Leningrad - 12/24/2016 1:48:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The news here can be summarized in one word - inevitable. german units cut the near Lake Ladoga ports, effectively isolating Leningrad. the mere fact of that cut all my units combat factors in half,, despite having more than 50K points of supply and still owning a distant port to resupply.

I clearly don't understand what that happened. It is disappointing as I would have used some of the stronger units in the defense of Moscow had I known that would be the result. Single german infantry divisions are clearing fortified regioins. It seems way to easy for the effort I put into it.

Further east of Ladoga, the Russians are in headlong retreat to avoid begin cut off and captured. defenses are being build up on the approaches to Vologdagrad, but I expect the enemy to make material progress.




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RE: 12 - Poltava area - 12/24/2016 2:25:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here I attacked exposed enemy units. Below is an example of Russian tactics. This attack was merely opportunistic - but it successfully tested my ability to push back armor




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RE: 12 - Sevestopol - 12/24/2016 2:31:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		here are the defenses of the Sevastopol area - fortified regions, forts and about 1 bona fide army. Hopefully slows Germans down into the Winter




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RE: 12 - Moscow - 12/24/2016 3:16:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		The opening blows in the fight for Moscow have occurred. best to look at the picture, as I think it better explains than words




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RE: 12 - Moscow Final thoughts - 12/24/2016 3:23:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a view of enemy morale in their pincer as a result of the Russian counterattack

And a view of the recent Russian successes downing german bombers




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