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- 4/29/2003 8:24:02 AM

Drex

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SoulBlazer
[B]Which part of Leyte are we talking about? Surigao Strait was one of the last old fashioned surface clashes and a great victory. The battle off Samar SHOULD have been a crushing Japanese victory except, in the words of the Combined Fleet website, "combination of exhaustion, crummy visibility, relentless air attacks, and an American destroyer screen that fought like wolves over their cubs" spoiled their chance. [/B][/QUOTE] Exactly greg. the battle of Leyte Gulf was 3 battles: Surigao Straits, Samar and Cape Engano. this is the over-complexity that I am talking about. Ozawa's sacrificial bait worked but perhaps Nishimura couold have aided Kurita. Surprise was lost at Surigao but San Bernadinao Straits was wide open. But without air support Kurita was doomed.

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- 4/29/2003 10:38:35 AM

Tanaka

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snigbert
[B][B]Interesting command structure. You plan to divide the IJN into "surface fleets" and "air fleets" with independent commanders not under Yamamoto's centralized control? Hmm. Also, how good is Tanaka going to be at strategy? I always see him on the admiral's bridge of a task force flagship.[/B]

I'm not sure if this is what he meant, but the Japanese Navy did have 'Air Fleets' during the war, which were comprised of wings of aircraft but no ships. Although I dont know why he would put Yamamoto or Yamaguchi in charge of them. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yamaguchi and Tanaka under Yamamotos overall control of course! And by air fleets I mean carrier task forces :)

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- 4/29/2003 10:54:58 AM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tanaka
[B]Yamaguchi and Tanaka under Yamamotos overall control of course! And by air fleets I mean carrier task forces :) [/B][/QUOTE]

Ah, the definitive word from the glorious "tenacious" Tanaka. How old are you by now, Admiral? About 110 or so?

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- 4/29/2003 12:33:26 PM

Mike_B20

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Lol, if the legendary Yamamoto was alive, played UV and visited and discussed on this forum, the veterans here would be quietly correcting and encouraging the newbie to KISS (keep it simple stupid), concentrate his forces, scout and keep trying, he'll get it right one day.
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- 4/30/2003 4:00:19 AM

Tanaka

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike_B20
[B]Lol, if the legendary Yamamoto was alive, played UV and visited and discussed on this forum, the veterans here would be quietly correcting and encouraging the newbie to KISS (keep it simple stupid), concentrate his forces, scout and keep trying, he'll get it right one day.
:D [/B][/QUOTE]

And telling me that I should have kept my mouth shut!!! :D

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