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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/8/2017 2:13:55 PM   
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The wolf pack that had been mauled off Spain has been destroyed. The 22nd Destroyer Flotilla was sent to the entrance of the Channel in case the U-Boats sought to get back to Germany via the English Channel - they did and the submariners paid the price.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/8/2017 2:20:34 PM   
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Reinforcements

United Kingdom
18th Army in Plymouth

United States
10th and 15th Army (New York and New Haven)

Soviet Union
5th Tanks – 1st Paras – 6th Tanks - 1st Maritime Bombers (All Moscow)

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UK -
USA -
USSR -
Apart from upgrade and repair I try not to spend anything this turn. Frankly the Soviets have got points to burn.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/8/2017 11:42:18 PM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 7:59:48 AM   
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Great AAR, made my transition to the game smooth. Here is a picture you probably have as a eward.


Nice picture. Thank you.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 4:26:51 PM   
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Great AAR, made my transition to the game smooth. Here is a picture you probably have as a reward.



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iirc as she appeared during the Spanish Civil War - I believe the red, white and blue on B-turret are recognition markings.


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 5:05:44 PM   
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The German moves at the neck of the Crimean Peninsular were sound - although the units south of the Dnepr are clearly there to die. But to the east, the Soviets are likely to bag a number of German units....


Position at the end of the German turn....



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 5:21:21 PM   
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Well its been threatening to happen for sometime.....

The 1st Mechanised Corps breaks out from its starting point southeast of Kremenchuk and makes contact with up with the 70th Rifle Corps, sealing the pocket containing the 2nd Romanian Army, two German infantry corps and the elite Fallschirmjager Detachment 'Student'. III Corps south of Dneprpetrovsk is then made the focus of the Soviet attack from both sides of the pocket and severely weakens the German unit.

The Soviets cannot bring further units south to support the western edge of the pocket as 8th Army hold firm. But even so, things look grim for the encircled units.....


The morning after the night before.....



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 5:28:57 PM   
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To the north, XVI Corps obeys the Fuhrer order and attempts to make a fortress of Kiev. "That's nice" say the Soviets and simply bypass the Ukrainian capital. There is no offensive action however as the Soviets seek to repair the damage caused by the Ukrainian Nationalists. In response, Stalin has ordered a special present for the people of the Ukraine....


There must be more attractive places to be right now for the officers and men of the 1st and 3rd Romanian Armies....



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 5:36:31 PM   
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Can anyone see a flaw in the German plan?

The German decide that the Soviets are ripe for an encirclement west of Minsk. A good old fashioned pincer movement is launched with one tinsy-winsy problem....no one told the southern pincer to move... indeed I don't think anyone bothered to form a southern pincer....


A manoeuvre straight out of the British Army hand book 1940....



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 5:48:01 PM   
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The Soviets react. Totally disinterested, the units east of Minsk continue moving east away from the advancing Germans. The 2nd Light Tank Corps and the 13th Rifle Corps are ordered to block the road leading into Minsk from the west. Not seen in this picture but 19th Rifle Corps are ordered to Bobruysk to block any further movement east by the German northern pincer.

The 1st Shock Tank Army are ordered to seal off the approaches from Brest-Litovsk. Meanwhile 22nd Army are ordered to strike out west for Grodno - and come across a Luftwaffe airfield placed too close to the front.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 5:57:21 PM   
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The Daugvapils pocket continues to be reduced slowly. The Germans are actually hurting themselves more by trying to attack out of the pocket (with no rescuers to make this remotely viable) than are the attacks by the Soviets. It can't be long now....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/9/2017 6:44:25 PM   
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Great AAR, made my transition to the game smooth. Here is a picture you probably have as a reward.

warspite1

iirc as she appeared during the Spanish Civil War - I believe the red, white and blue on B-turret are recognition markings.


As if She wouldn't be recognized without it.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/11/2017 8:55:52 PM   
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Reinforcements

United States
3rd Army in Providence

MPP Expenditure

UK - Fighters
USA - One each of fighters, Tactical and Medium Bombers
USSR - A few upgrades and reinforcements only




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/11/2017 8:57:48 PM   
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I have huge respect for the Poles that fought alongside us in WWII, so although I was not taking on any more units in the Desert, I will make an exception for these boys .

Meanwhile British Commandos raid St Malo and Italian morale drops as a result of the loss of Tobruk.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/11/2017 9:07:11 PM   
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The naval situation in the North Atlantic. Royal Navy units in and around the UK are upgrading.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/11/2017 9:07:29 PM   
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I have huge respect for the Poles that fought alongside us in WWII, so although I was not taking on any more units in the Desert, I will make an exception for these boys .




They should have very high morale. IIRC the issue was that the Poles were short of officers, most of them having been executed by Stalin.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/11/2017 9:15:49 PM   
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I have huge respect for the Poles that fought alongside us in WWII, so although I was not taking on any more units in the Desert, I will make an exception for these boys .




They should have very high morale. IIRC the issue was that the Poles were short of officers, most of them having been executed by Stalin.
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Current morale is 50%.


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/11/2017 9:19:21 PM   
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The Americans continue to press toward Tripoli, and the defending 5th Army reel under a hail of bombs from the USAAF and then initial assaults by the infantry of 2nd Corps.

Meanwhile the British R+R for the proposed landing in Sicily.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/11/2017 9:25:46 PM   
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The Daugvapils pocket is almost liquidated and to the west the 7th Shock Army, supporting the 60th Rifle Corps outside Ventspils, breaks out for Liepaja.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/11/2017 9:32:24 PM   
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Last one tonight. Just to the south, the 1st Anti-Tank unit is still causing a nuisance in Minsk, but it is no more than a mild irritation. Another German army disappears from the OOB at Baranowicze, and 1st Shock Tank Army is outside Brest-Litovsk, the last stop before East Prussia....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 6:28:36 PM   
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In the south the Soviets continue to:

a) Liquidate existing pockets - some quicker than others, and
b) Gradually seep through the gaps of the over-stretched defenders who simply cannot maintain a continuous line.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 6:31:18 PM   
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The Soviets are at the maximum in terms of research, I am limiting further purchases for the moment - and they are sitting on over 2,000 MPP.... The Soviets looks comfortable at the moment - although there are a useful number of German units in the south of the USSR...

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 6:42:04 PM   
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Things are going rapidly downhill for the Axis in the Baltics.

1. 7th Shock Army, joined by the 60th and 62nd Rifle Corps, have changed tack, and instead of trying to destroy the Hungarians defending Ventspils, they have moved to isolate the garrison. In so doing the Luftwaffe unit at Liepaja has been badly mauled - with numerous precious aircraft destroyed with the aid of naval gunfire support.

2. The German Army Group North have a Panzerarmee at Sialuai, but 8th Shock Army and 64th Rifle Corps are threatening their right flank as they set out for Memel/Tilsit.

3. With the Daugvapils pocket destroyed, the bulk of the 2nd and 3rd Baltic Front troops will soon be heading for Kaunas.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 6:48:06 PM   
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I did the something similar to control unit availability but instead of purchasing land units which are available in a few turns, I started purchasing units with a longer time to delivery (Air and naval). In the long run, you still get units and simulates indirectly the need to switch resources (factories) to produce other things. You can also force yourself when purchasing units to always purchase every available upgrade even if it is not actually required, just to minimize the MPPs available.

I think there is a need to force nations to keep units in or near their own borders just to keep the population happy. For example, Moscow should always be required to have a Corps (Army?) within a few hexes distance for security. Other major cities could also require some unit to be in place. I'm not sure what the penalty should be, perhaps a morale hit each turn or MPP reduction each turn from those cities because of unrest of the people. It would be hard to implement across the board and the AI would probably struggle with it so maybe it only applies to a human side when turned on.

Anything to slow down the pace of the game would be nice. Having this feature as an option to turn off/on for each side so that a human can handicap themselves (turn on) vs. the AI or weaker human opponent (turn off).

Great AAR. Looking forward to the push into Germany.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 6:59:29 PM   
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Warspite,

I did the something similar to control unit availability but instead of purchasing land units which are available in a few turns, I started purchasing units with a longer time to delivery (Air and naval). In the long run, you still get units and simulates indirectly the need to switch resources (factories) to produce other things. You can also force yourself when purchasing units to always purchase every available upgrade even if it is not actually required, just to minimize the MPPs available.

I think there is a need to force nations to keep units in or near their own borders just to keep the population happy. For example, Moscow should always be required to have a Corps (Army?) within a few hexes distance for security. Other major cities could also require some unit to be in place. I'm not sure what the penalty should be, perhaps a morale hit each turn or MPP reduction each turn from those cities because of unrest of the people. It would be hard to implement across the board and the AI would probably struggle with it so maybe it only applies to a human side when turned on.

Anything to slow down the pace of the game would be nice. Having this feature as an option to turn off/on for each side so that a human can handicap themselves (turn on) vs. the AI or weaker human opponent (turn off).

Great AAR. Looking forward to the push into Germany.

Malor
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Yes I am adding all the upgrades too. Given the self imposed limits I simply have too many USSR MPP. If the Germans have nothing in Memel the Soviets could be in East Prussia in a couple of turns!


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 7:09:24 PM   
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Yes I am adding all the upgrades too. Given the self imposed limits I simply have too many USSR MPP. If the Germans have nothing in Memel they Soviets could be in Berlin in a couple of turns!


You made a slight mix-up in your post. I fixed it for you.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 7:15:53 PM   
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Yes I am adding all the upgrades too. Given the self imposed limits I simply have too many USSR MPP. If the Germans have nothing in Memel they Soviets could be in Berlin in a couple of turns!


You made a slight mix-up in your post. I fixed it for you.
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 7:18:20 PM   
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And further south the carnage continues. The irritating AA unit in Minsk is almost out of troops, and the Germans lose another unit when a Cavalry Corps decides to try outflanking the Soviets again. The Soviet tanks soon put that idea to bed....

Brest-Litovsk is now in danger of being out-flanked from both north and south....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 7:39:50 PM   
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The Soviets are now looking with longing eyes at an encirclement west of Uman....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/12/2017 7:44:18 PM   
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Reinforcements

Soviet Union
A Katayusha that is placed in Moscow

MPP Expenditure

UK - Upgrades and reinforcement
USA - Heavy Bombers and Ground attack research
USSR - Upgrades and reinforcement




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