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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/4/2018 4:11:35 AM

Mundy

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02 August 1942

The Worm Turns...

After suffering constant air attack and bombardments at Suva. I've been watching his carriers making their way east. Keep in mind, I've built up a rather giant air force at Pago Pago. I figured there was no way they'd come within range. Sure enough, he decided to sweep Pago Pago, with about even losses. He's probably regretting it now.

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Morning Air attack on Pago Pago , at 148,161

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 11
P-36A Mohawk x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 34
P-400 Airacobra x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 2 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet

CAP engaged:
12th FS with P-39D Airacobra (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Raid is overhead
8th FG/35th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
15th FG/46th FS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
58th FG/67th FS with P-400 Airacobra (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 16000.
Raid is overhead
58th FG/68th FS with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
15th FG/72nd FS with P-26A (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes

My turn...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
E13A1 Jake x 14

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 18
P-40E Warhawk x 12
SBD-3 Dauntless x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CVL Shoho
CV Zuikaku
CV Soryu

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Hokoku Maru-1 with E13A1 Jake (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
Nachi-1 with E13A1 Jake (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Mikuma-2 with E13A1 Jake (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Okinoshima-1 with E13A1 Jake (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
E13A1 Jake x 1

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 3
P-26A x 8
P-36A Mohawk x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 9
SBD-1 Dauntless x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 2 damaged
P-26A: 3 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed
SBD-1 Dauntless: 7 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Junyo
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 2
CV Soryu

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SBD-1 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
3 x SBD-1 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
Hokoku Maru-1 with E13A1 Jake (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 12
P-38E Lightning x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
3 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
5 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 4 damaged
A-24 Banshee: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
CVL Shoho, on fire
CV Zuikaku

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 7
B-26 Marauder x 7
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-400 Airacobra x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 3
CV Junyo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Soryu

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 50 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 23

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Junyo, on fire
CS Chiyoda, Shell hits 4
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 100 feet

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
E13A1 Jake x 9

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 3
P-38E Lightning x 7
P-39D Airacobra x 17
P-400 Airacobra x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 22
SBD-3 Dauntless x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 19 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
Hokoku Maru-1 with E13A1 Jake (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Nachi-1 with E13A1 Jake (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
Okinoshima-1 with E13A1 Jake (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Zuikaku

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 10
P-39D Airacobra x 2
SBD-1 Dauntless x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Junyo, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Soryu
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-1 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-1 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 107 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Zuikaku

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 6
P-36A Mohawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Junyo, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Junyo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Oyashio, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 5080.
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Pago Pago at 148,164

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 18

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 2
CS Chiyoda, Shell hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 100 feet

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

Out of this mess,Shoho, Zuikaku and Junyo have heavy damage and heavy fires. Soryu only has heavy fires, but with Japanese damage control, she's probably screwed as well. 4 carriers, most likely dead. I had all the bombers restricted to max Fighter range, but I've pulled the stops out and the mediums will harry them all the way out. I'm pleased that they got hits in as well, as long as they've been training. They've also a sub gauntlet to run on the way out.

I feel better about kicking off my Marshalls invasion once my Royal Navy ships finally reach Pearl.

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/4/2018 4:27:42 AM

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A pretty good thumping for LBA to put on the KB! Here's hoping your subs can get lucky!

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/4/2018 5:49:05 AM

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Great to see a well defended base give it to KB! Please let us know of any reports of aircraft "ground" losses on the Japanese side. Might give some confirmation on carrier losses.

BTW I was surprised there were no secondary explosions for all those hits on the carriers. Did your Banshees have to use 500 lb bombs because of range?

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/4/2018 12:36:11 PM

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I couldn't tell for sure, as Dave plays with combat animations off, but looking at combat reporter, this was only about 4 hexes from Pago Pago. Most likely the big bombs were carried.

I spent the last several months packing that base with planes. I only had 4 dive bomber squadrons and 2 medium squadrons there, but it was enough. More than enough escort to see them through. Savaii is also loaded with fighters.

You'd think with that many hits, you'd get some fuel or ammo explosions.

I'm happy the 25s and 26s did their part.

< Message edited by Mundy -- 3/4/2018 12:39:03 PM >

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/4/2018 12:47:22 PM

BBfanboy

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D'OH! It's right there in the bottom part of your combat reports:

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-1 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-1 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Attachment (1)

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/4/2018 2:00:00 PM

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I missed that too.

I kept searching for "ammo explosion".

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/5/2018 2:17:40 AM

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He got far too close and he paid for it as eve P-26s were flying escort in your strikes. One of the good things about early war KB is to be bale to attack from beyond the range of single engine counter strike or fighter escort, making kis CAP more powerful though usually limited if he doesn't add Zeros.

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/5/2018 3:42:48 PM

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So much for the all in Australia gambit.

Now a big part of the KB is (1) Gone or (2) So severely damaged they will take weeks to limp to port and be unavailable as the Allied side grow stronger and launches some counter punches.

Questions :

1) Do you think you could sneak supply to the Philippines ? With a serious chunk of the KB gone - there may be an opportunity.

2) Should be able to resupply Australia

3) Your own plans to counter punch in the Marshall and Burma ? He must be very thin in more than one place with all those troops and supply tied up in Southern Oz

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/5/2018 10:11:01 PM

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Hi Mac,

1) After the beating I got last time, I'm not willing to run to the Philippines again. I'm down to just Bataan at this point. I bought plenty of time last time, but I don't think it was worth losing my carriers over.

2) At this point, "Australia" is basically Melbourne -- that's it. He has that covered well with air, as I've taken hits getting my last ships out, not to mention the neighboring hex is well mined by this point. I could feed more troops and ammo in, but he's pretty strong down there. Coastwatchers indicate that the rest of KB is probably based in some of the hexes around here. Tulagi comes up frequently.

3) I could probably pull the trigger early, but I want plenty of battleships to go with the invaders and I should have a bunch more in a month or so. My last RN carrier arriving will need some repair work also (20 sys plus some flt damage), which will eat up some time. With them I can have four carriers covering the affair. USMC aircraft will be on the RN ships.

I have to keep in mind that I've only trashed about 1/3 of the original KB. He's still formidable. After the Marshalls, I don't intend to move forwards until I get a bunch of Essexes in hand. Not sure what would be next, but I'm favoring the Marianas. I tried taking Truk once and it wasn't a pleasant experience.

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/6/2018 12:33:35 AM

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03 August 1942

Follow up.

His carrier force has just vanished. They probably headed north, which would have taken them outside my PBY search arcs. They couldn't have gone far and my mediums should still get another shot, unless all the carriers died and the surface forces could move at speed.

My intel screen is showing ships other than what I've attacked. I got the "sinking ship" sound effect twice during the turn, so it's probable that two of them went down. Most likely, Shoho is one of them.

At Suva, my planes there finally decided to go into action and landed some hits.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Suva at 131,161

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 8

Allied aircraft
Vincent I x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vincent I: 3 damaged
Vincent I: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CA Maya, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Yubari

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Vincent I bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Chikuma-2 with E13A1 Jake (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Ashigara-2 with E13A1 Jake (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Suva at 131,161

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 8

Allied aircraft
Vincent I x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vincent I: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Oi
CL Katori, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Vincent I bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Chikuma-2 with E13A1 Jake (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Ashigara-2 with E13A1 Jake (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes

Overall, my air wing there is in pretty sad shape and needs time to recover. I think his surface force is backing off now. At Pago, I've upgraded the peashooters to P-400s, though I only had 10 in the pool for now.

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RE: Up and at 'em. Mundy vs hjones6464@yahoo.co.uk - 3/6/2018 1:29:16 AM

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Well played off Pago Pago, and good luck keeping Melbourne. How is supply holding out there? What is the loss (or gain) rate?

I'd say it's time to start thinking about landing somewhere in Oz. When you have him distracted in the Marshalls it might be a good time to pull that off. Of course, it depends on how much LBA he has on hand, so you'll have to figure out the right place to do it.

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Hi Cody,

Supply is in the 40-50k range now. I do have the one monster armored unit there, which has been carrying it's weight.

If I go in, I'm sure the remnants of KB will jump all over it. Coastwatchers have indicated carriers based in the area. Not sure if I want to enter that tar pit when i could just cut everyone's supply from the north. A giant Australian prison camp sounds good right now.

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Hi Mac,

1) After the beating I got last time, I'm not willing to run to the Philippines again. I'm down to just Bataan at this point. I bought plenty of time last time, but I don't think it was worth losing my carriers over.

2) At this point, "Australia" is basically Melbourne -- that's it. He has that covered well with air, as I've taken hits getting my last ships out, not to mention the neighboring hex is well mined by this point. I could feed more troops and ammo in, but he's pretty strong down there. Coastwatchers indicate that the rest of KB is probably based in some of the hexes around here. Tulagi comes up frequently.

3) I could probably pull the trigger early, but I want plenty of battleships to go with the invaders and I should have a bunch more in a month or so. My last RN carrier arriving will need some repair work also (20 sys plus some flt damage), which will eat up some time. With them I can have four carriers covering the affair. USMC aircraft will be on the RN ships.

I have to keep in mind that I've only trashed about 1/3 of the original KB. He's still formidable. After the Marshalls, I don't intend to move forwards until I get a bunch of Essexes in hand. Not sure what would be next, but I'm favoring the Marianas. I tried taking Truk once and it wasn't a pleasant experience.

Yes following your reasoning closely.

1 & 2)

I think you are right - Melbourne / Bataan will just have to stand as best they can.

Its interesting that his opening gambits under emphasized the Philippines in favor of Australia; not something I have seen a lot of in reading many many AARs. I have read of the invasions of Darwin / Perth - but rarely such a deep penetration - south of Brisbane that 'activates' those emergency replacements. Seemingly it works. Bring enough to the party and play the supply stranglehold game using the KB to fend off resupply efforts.

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3) I think I recall you are well advanced in the Marshalls Giblert's now. Land Based F4Fs and Dauntless 3's should be plentiful enough to mop up fron Allinglaplaplaplap (spelling?) ??

Even if you wait another 9 mos for Essex, her kin, and the CVLs - the Mariana's are likely the best target. 'A lot of good' those troops hanging out in Mildura and Canberra will be when you land in Saipan with 6 divisions...

Follow up question:

I cannot envision what his supply to home islands look like though - supporting all the usage in Australia. There is not sufficient HI LI unless I am mistaken ?

Is Japan shipping fuel to Oz ? What a turn of events.

Oil may be flowing to the Home Islands but supply has to be flowing to Australia / New Guinea / everywhere. His xAKs must be 100% flat out... his shipping stretched thin.

How is your silent service faring ?

August 42 and most the initial updates are done. Wahoo and kin come online. Torps are better but still not great.

With Pearl and advanced bases in the Marshalls are you getting lots of sub coverage as far as "Perth" where I imagine he is shipping into ?

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Japan has some stockpiles of HI points and supply that will see her through the first year of the war. It is too soon to expect to see shortages all the way back to Japan, if he has enough ships to move supply around.

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I have subs covering the Home Islands and the Philippine-China gap pretty well. Torpedoes being what they are has kept results low. I did nail one transport off of Fusan with a surface attack a couple turns ago.

Midway is a fairly major sub base right now. I'm looking forward to moving this to the Marshalls to keep my forward presence up better.

No clue how stuff's getting to Australia. No coverage that ways. Most of my named subs are farther north, but I'm running some S-boats out of Pago Pago -- mostly covering Suva.

Probably one blind spot in this game is not having to ship imports to Japan to cover the civilian sector. I think in real life at least a quarter of total Japanese shipping needed to deal with that. That would put a big crunch on Military operations.

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I have subs covering the Home Islands and the Philippine-China gap pretty well. Torpedoes being what they are has kept results low. I did nail one transport off of Fusan with a surface attack a couple turns ago.

Midway is a fairly major sub base right now. I'm looking forward to moving this to the Marshalls to keep my forward presence up better.

No clue how stuff's getting to Australia. No coverage that ways. Most of my named subs are farther north, but I'm running some S-boats out of Pago Pago -- mostly covering Suva.

Probably one blind spot in this game is not having to ship imports to Japan to cover the civilian sector. I think in real life at least a quarter of total Japanese shipping needed to deal with that. That would put a big crunch on Military operations.

I think the Japanese invented sushi and dried seaweed around this time ...

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Probably one blind spot in this game is not having to ship imports to Japan to cover the civilian sector. I think in real life at least a quarter of total Japanese shipping needed to deal with that. That would put a big crunch on Military operations.

May be it is assumed (under the hood) that some of the Light Industry output goes to the civilian population.

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04 August 1942

No sign of his carrier group anywhere. I can only assumed all his carriers died and the rest booked it out of there. Intel's only showing the same three dead.

I've another UK division enroute to Rangoon, about 7 hexes away hugging the coast. I've LRCAPped two squadrons over them as Kates have been scouting them. I'm debating whether I should attack south again from Moulmein or not. I've about 3,000 AV there, I think, plus more in Rangoon and Pegu.

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15 August 1942

Bataan finally falls. I'm surprised it took this long, since once Clark fell, I had almost nothing left. One less part of the map to look at.

This turn, CVE Copahee arrives at Tacoma. She'll make up for Formidable in my invasion. She's due to withdraw in 20 days, and I was tempted to keep her around, but I need to keep the PPs coming. Illustrious is some 42 days from repair work being done, so I'm provisionally planning to kick off my invasion then. More battleships will arrive by then to beef up the assaulters.

Bunches of USN subchasers arrive this turn. 6 in Eastern US and another 5 in Panama. The ones in Panama have an AD to escort them to Pearl.

Savaii and Pago Pago are in the 150,000 and 200,000 range for supply now. I have a squadron of P-38Fs there now, so I can escort bombers to their full range. More bad news, if the Japanese decide to visit again.

Bombardment at Melbourne.

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Ground combat at Melbourne (82,170)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 52355 troops, 758 guns, 525 vehicles, Assault Value = 2534

Defending force 69821 troops, 1305 guns, 1698 vehicles, Assault Value = 2178

Japanese ground losses:
98 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
90th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Division
2nd Engineer Regiment
20th Recon Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
26th Recon Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
171st Cavalry Regiment
144th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
38th Division
146th Infantry Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
2nd Raiding Regiment
8th Recon Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
II/81st Naval Guard Unit
16th AA Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th RF Gun Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
7th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
16th Army
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion

Defending units:
2nd British Para Brigade
7th SA Armoured Brigade
6th Australian Division
27th Rhodesian Brigade
44th British Division
7th Armoured Brigade
2nd NZ Brigade
9th Australian Division
Natal Mtd Rifles Regiment
RAAF OTU Melbourne
C/D Battery Heavy Coastal Artillery Regiment
2/1st Heavy AA Regiment
3rd RAAF M/W Sqn
A/B Battery Heavy Coastal Artillery Regiment
2/2nd Heavy AA Regiment
7th RAAF Base Force
7th RAN Base Force
NW Australia Base Force
NW Aus Aviation Rgt
2/1 NAOU Det.
10th Patl RAAF Wing
2nd RNZAF Base Force
13th Australian Hvy AA Regiment
1st Fgtr RAAF Wing
2nd RAAF M/W Sqn
2nd Australian Army
20th RAAF Base Force
71st RAAF Wing
33rd Medium Regiment
N Force Detachment

Supply there is now empty. He'll still need to pack more troops in to finish the job. I've the feeling he's getting stretched, as far as land forces go.

In one turn, Akagi's been sighted in Perth, Tulagi and Palm Island. I'm suspecting Tulagi, as that one comes up a lot. Once I pounce on the Marshalls, he may be hesitant to jump on them after his recent beating. Two AKVs are due to arrive in Panama from Aden. They'll help give me my instant air force, once I take those islands.

I can't wait for mid-1943 to arrive.

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