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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/17/2017 10:39:28 AM

obvert

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Feb 17-18, 1942

SUBS: Subs encounter a few massive amphib TFs that look to be heading North. I think he's trying to get Toyohara back, but it could be something more serious. I'll start pulling the paras out of Toyohara and back to the coast, since the last thing I want is an invasion on the Eastern Soviet coastline. I've got some reserve divisions moving into strat mode as well to be in the region.

DEI: A set of three IJN DDs nails the lone xAKL I sent in to Sabang as a feeler and more importantly to provide supply for a CAP in the next few days. About 200 supply landed before it was sunk, so that's mission accomplished. The IJN here is not strong, and soon will be tested.

The 4Es hit the troops moving to Singers for a little love tap on the 17th. He has some decent CAP there now, so I'll try for the airbase. I'd like to close it, but won't if he's persistent in defence just yet. I mainly want him to have to keep defending so Palembang and the Malay penninsula are less well stocked with fighters.

SOVIETS: Nearly break through and wipe out the 1st Border Defense fort on the 17th and it should be a day or two more before these troops will flood forward. The next hex is defended by a division in x3, but we have two there already with two more and 6 tank brigades on the way.

CAP traps near Sunwu put the hurt on Soviets bombers and biplanes on the 18th to the total of about 50 planes lost. Ouch!! He layered a combined A6M and Oscar CAP. Caught me by surprise and I'll have to be careful now. So will he, as I have now two MiG sweeping groups.

BURMA: The IJA gets to Lashio finally where a bought out Chinese Corps is installed. Good defensive territory, and gives a chance for fort building at Paoshan. The IJA gets a 1:3 in their first try.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 17, 42
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sabang at 44,70, Range 13,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Tsuga

Allied Ships
xAKL Belray, Shell hits 16, and is sunk

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Morning Air attack on 56th Infantry Regiment, at 50,83 (Johore Bahru)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
87 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 50,83

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 26000 feet

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Ground combat at Lashio (62,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25660 troops, 202 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 813

Defending force 15504 troops, 70 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 430

Japanese adjusted assault: 247

Allied adjusted defense: 745

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
381 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Allied ground losses:
854 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
33rd Division
15th Army

Defending units:
3rd Burma Rifles Battalion
13th Burma Rifles Battalion
BFF Brigade
Mandalay BMP Battalion
5th Chinese Corps
102nd RAF Base Force
Burma Command
100th RAF Base Force

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Ground combat at 111,44 (near Yenki)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 35872 troops, 609 guns, 1354 vehicles, Assault Value = 1409

Defending force 3710 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Allied adjusted assault: 1655

Japanese adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 87 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1963 casualties reported
Squads: 130 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
217 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Assaulting units:
205th Rifle Division
34th Rifle Division
72nd Tank Brigade
76th Tank Brigade
77th Tank Brigade
75th Tank Brigade
1st Amurskaya Tank Brigade
46th Engr-Sapper Bde
3rd Amurskaya Tank Brigade
199th BM Howitzer Regiment
1134th Howitzer Regiment
1132nd Howitzer Regiment
221st Corps Art Brigade
78th/186th PVO AA Battalion
1132nd Howitzer Regiment
1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment
1194th BM Howitzer Regiment
215th Howitzer Regiment
424th Hvy Howitzer Regiment

Defending units:
1st Border Defense Fortress

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 18, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Toyohara at 124,46

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
CL Kitakami
CL Nagara
DD Yugao
DD Tachikaze
DD Hokaze
DD Akikaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Yunagi
DD Asanagi
DD Arashi
TB Otori

Allied ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Light Industry hits 2
Manpower hits 2
Fires 165
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 26
Port hits 10
Port supply hits 2

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Morning Air attack on 15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment, at 113,35 , near Sunwu

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
I-16m24 x 23

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-16m24: 6 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment, at 113,35 , near Sunwu

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 16
SB-2 x 53

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 5 destroyed
SB-2: 11 destroyed, 17 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 50,83

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 8
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 24
B-26 Marauder x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 15
P-40E Warhawk x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 27
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Here is a shot of what the Japanese can expect. Should bump up a bit more in the next few days, approaching 1400AV. The divisions are well rested but still under 50exp, although getting closer. They have good leaders and the HQ leaders are the best I can buy.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/18/2017 9:31:37 AM

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Feb 19, 1942

SUBS: Lots of subs hit near Toyohara trying to thwart the invasion there, but mainly just getting subs damaged. Another hits a mine at Hakodate. Must have reacted in there.

DEI: The IJ has landed on upper Sumatra via barge and this plus the IJA move into Singers triggers the activation of naval and amphibious elements hanging deep off of the Sumatran coast. These will move in to Sabang, dropping off two base forces and two large AA units, one 3.7" guns and the other 40mm Bofors. An Aussie brigade is not far behind, and will land within a few days. These forces will attempt to build the airfield to support enough fighters to then move down the peninsula and possibly land on Malaya behind the IJA that has just moved into Singers. I don't hope to recapture these areas permanently, but to hold them to support Singapore, which has become very strong. The British believed it was impregnable. Lets test that theory by supporting it.

PACIFIC: All up North. I've started to make some daring landings in quiet areas of Cent Pac. I'll show where soon. I want all units to land and the base to build before anything spots the incursion.

SOVIETS: Sallys launch to Nakhodka near Vlad and are almost all shot down. Not sure if this is a mistake or a probe for future invasion data. Either way, we are developing a reserve at Voroshilov to prevent incursions in the South and also have the DDs at Vlad to shoot in on a suicide mission should the IJ appear in force. The coastal guns are strong up here so hopefully that would deter any thoughts, but during the invasion bonus months you never know.

Our run at Hailar also gets jumped and we lose another 30 planes. Yikes! Forgot to turn that one off after last turn and Lowpe picked the right spot to CAP. Still, lots of bombers to use when I find the right moment, and the MiGs are just building up. I will unleash them again soon.

The troops surrounding Hailar are in place and will begin to move in now to completely surround troops there. The rail has been blocked for about a week, and all units moving in are tanks so will likely beat his troops. This should be a nice haul of about 20k IJA troops destroyed. I'm sure he'll fly some out, but that is why I've been trying to hit the airfields hard for days, so that once he realised the transports wouldn't fly in.

I am really enjoying orchestrating the land war with Soviet troops. Their combination of strong arty, solidly build divisions, plentiful Has with multiple text range and great AA in addition to the tanks everywhere give so much flexibility. There are some more surprises in store, but I've also got to watch my back. I know the IJ could take a risk, slow other ops and land on the weakly defended coastal hexes. There re some brigades coming soon I'd like to walk to the more distant bases to settle in and give a more solid defence there.

BURMA: The IJA Das again at Lashio and the time gets to a very close 1:2, but takes more infantry squads disabled. The Chinese unit here is taking replacements, so if there is time between these, we could actually add to the units. I have nothing else to add in here, but I can distract these guys soon with some bombing runs.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 19, 42
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Invasion Support action off Langsa (46,74)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
LB-501
LB-134
LB-131
LB-130
LB-128
LB-127
LB-123
LB-121
LB-119
LB-114
LB-112
LB-110

LB-501 fired at enemy troops

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 1, 42
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Morning Air attack on Primorsky UR Fortress, at 112,47 (Nakhodka)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 15

Allied aircraft
I-16m24 x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 6 destroyed, 5 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 53
SB-2 x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
SB-2: 5 destroyed, 8 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Morning Air attack on Hailar , at 107,30

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 4
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 50,83

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 2
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 25
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 18
LB-30 Liberator x 6
B-26 Marauder x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 3 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 8 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Lashio (62,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25341 troops, 202 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 783

Defending force 14860 troops, 70 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 376

Japanese adjusted assault: 229

Allied adjusted defense: 283

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
421 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled

Allied ground losses:
418 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
33rd Division
15th Army

Defending units:
13th Burma Rifles Battalion
BFF Brigade
5th Chinese Corps
Mandalay BMP Battalion
100th RAF Base Force
Burma Command
102nd RAF Base Force
3rd Burma Rifles Battalion

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Ground combat at 111,44 (near Yenki)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 37498 troops, 627 guns, 1584 vehicles, Assault Value = 1407

Defending force 2003 troops, 30 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied adjusted assault: 1883

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 1883 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2323 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 91 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 43 (43 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
77th Tank Brigade
72nd Tank Brigade
205th Rifle Division
75th Tank Brigade
34th Rifle Division
46th Engr-Sapper Bde
76th Tank Brigade
1st Amurskaya Tank Brigade
3rd Amurskaya Tank Brigade
78th/186th PVO AA Battalion
221st Corps Art Brigade
1194th BM Howitzer Regiment
1132nd Howitzer Regiment
199th BM Howitzer Regiment
1132nd Howitzer Regiment
215th Howitzer Regiment
1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment
1134th Howitzer Regiment
424th Hvy Howitzer Regiment

Defending units:
1st Border Defense Fortress

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Ground combat at 111,43 (near Mutankiang)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19257 troops, 351 guns, 90 vehicles, Assault Value = 1026

Defending force 22494 troops, 264 guns, 100 vehicles, Assault Value = 643

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
40th Rifle Division
13th Naval Infantry Brigade
209th Rifle Division
165th Hvy Howitzer Regiment
50th Cannon Regiment
1124th Cannon Regiment
219th Corps Art Brigade
386th Howitzer Regiment

Defending units:
57th Division
2nd Border Defense Fortress
5th Ind Engineer Regiment
77th Infantry Regiment
4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Ind Field Artillery Regiment
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

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Not a good few days in the air. Nice to kill all of those Sallys though.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/18/2017 1:01:49 PM

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SINGAPORE CROSSING!!

SINGAPORE: The IJA launches a shock against the fortress and takes massive casualties! Defending forces had made 25 AV a day gains over the past few days to get up to 1401AV and the bigger units take almost no damage, including the forts staying at 4. One Aussie brigade has about 10 disabled infantry squads, but the two Indian divisions are looking good. Some of the smaller battalions which make up about a third of the defenders were a bit messed up, but that's to be expected.

Reports show the equivalent of a full IJA division destroyed with two more disabled.

I couldn't have asked for more, and now supply becomes the critical element. We need to increase forts to level 5 before the next DA, continue to support he defending air forces, and supply the bombardments I'll commence next turn. I want to see if we can kill off some of the disabled squads before he builds forts and keep the units fatigued and disruption up. He's got some arty though, so we'll adjust as needed. It may be more useful to bombard by air and sea. I'll send in three CAs to start in tomorrow.

So far nothing has gotten near our forces at Sabang, and more cruisers join tomorrow. I'll send a bombardment to Georgetown, where I believe the IJN is basing, in a few days, but will hit with 4Es tomorrow.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 20, 42
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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 73764 troops, 838 guns, 340 vehicles, Assault Value = 2249

Defending force 61571 troops, 619 guns, 462 vehicles, Assault Value = 1401

Japanese adjusted assault: 945

Allied adjusted defense: 3199

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
16873 casualties reported
Squads: 379 destroyed, 518 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 198 disabled
Engineers: 35 destroyed, 64 disabled
Guns lost 71 (30 destroyed, 41 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2940 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 132 disabled
Non Combat: 37 destroyed, 106 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 40 (4 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Vehicles lost 27 (12 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
4th Division
56th Division
38th Division
5th Division
55th Division
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
1st Manchester Battalion
22nd Australian Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
SSVF Brigade
2/15 Punjab Battalion
3rd SSVF Battalion
27th Australian Brigade
2nd Malay Battalion
FMSV Brigade
2nd Gordons Battalion
1st Hyderabad Battalion
1st Malay Battalion
1st Mysore Battalion
2nd Loyal Battalion
2/17 Dogra Battalion
11th Indian Division
5/14th Punjab Battalion
9th Indian Division
AHQ Far East
Malayan Air Wing
III Indian Corps
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2nd ISF Base Force
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
113th RAF Adv Base Force
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
1st ISF Base Force
112th RAF Adv Base Force
Singapore Fortress
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
223 Group RAF
110th RAF Adv Base Force
224 Group RAF /2
109th RAF Adv Base Force
Malaya Army
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
Singapore Base Force
109th RN Base Force /1
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/18/2017 1:19:47 PM

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Feb 20, 1942

SUBS: The Soviet subs finally go nuts at Toyohara. Four subs hit four different ships, likely sinking at least 2 including an AV (confirmed due to Jake losses on the ground). A big LSD is also hit and will have to transit back through the net with some float damage.

DEI: The IJN DDs in the Malayan area bombard Medan. Perfect. I'd like it if they ignored Sabang for a few. The unit landed on Sumatra is a regiment. Larger than I thought he could get over with a few barges, but still manageable since we have a few Aussies on the way. The more stuck battling it out on Sumatra the fewer he can cycle through Singers.

Tarakan is now getting a lot of focus from IJN BBs ,meaning the troops there are withering. It was a good stand, but they will fall in the next attack. Then I can bomb the oil.

PACIFIC: Troops landing. No detection.

CBI: The troops at Lashio are bracing for the next assault. Bombers are getting ready to move in.

The tanks in the deserts are still being hit, and moving. They will continue to be in range for a good while though, and out of LR CAP range. I think they may not make it back to China.

SOVIETS: Tanks make it to the hex near Mutankiang. This will be a defining week. If this hex falls the Japanese position will be difficult to maintain. I'll have three separate thrusts toward central Manchuria, only one of which is potentially going to be more easily contained. This in addition to the eradication of forward IJA bases on the rail lines, at the extended depth of Hailar, and hopefully Anshan just after. If those rail heads are in Soviet hands it will be a much more concentrated battle in the South, and that favours the Soviets, who have a huge advantage in troop numbers.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 20, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Medan at 46,76 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Tsuga
DD Minazuki
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2
Port hits 2

DD Tsuga firing at Medan

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Submarine attack near Toyohara at 124,46

Japanese Ships
xAK Tosei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS ShCh-110

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

xAK Tosei Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-110
SS ShCh-110 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Tosei Maru

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Submarine attack near Toyohara at 124,46

Japanese Ships
xAK Okiyu Maru, Torpedo hits 1

Allied Ships
SS ShCh-106

xAK Okiyu Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-106
SS ShCh-106 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Okiyu Maru

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Submarine attack near Toyohara at 124,46

Japanese Ships
AV Kiyokawa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS ShCh-109

AV Kiyokawa Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-109
SS ShCh-109 launches 4 torpedoes at AV Kiyokawa Maru

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Morning Air attack on 41st Infantry Regiment, at 46,74 (Langsa)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 22
LB-30 Liberator x 7
B-26 Marauder x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 8 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Submarine attack near Toyohara at 124,46

Japanese Ships
LSD Shinshu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS ShCh-116

LSD Shinshu Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-116
SS ShCh-116 launches 2 torpedoes at LSD Shinshu Maru

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Ground combat at Langsa (46,74)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2225 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 98

Defending force 786 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Japanese adjusted assault: 104

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 34 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Langsa !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
374 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
41st Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
1st Garrison Cdo

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The four ships attacked today makes me feel like I need to bunch up subs even more. The detection increases seem to feed the attacks by other subs in the hex. So for invasions, stick them all in the destination hex, as here. This hasn't worked at Singers with bombardments, though. I've had up to 10 subs in hex and a big BB TF has gone untouched.

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PACIFIC: Troops landing. No detection.

Very coy .... but where man where ?

I assume this is very bold because :

1) You are being secretive...

2) Japan must already have its hands full facing onslaughts in Manchuria, Singapore. I presume Burma is sitting playing cricket and drinking tea .... Oz is loading troops for defense "off the Oz continent"....

Your only difficulty would be a lack of carrier striking capability; and that will take time to resolve.

Personal guess: Makin ?

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The four ships attacked today makes me feel like I need to bunch up subs even more. The detection increases seem to feed the attacks by other subs in the hex. So for invasions, stick them all in the destination hex, as here. This hasn't worked at Singers with bombardments, though. I've had up to 10 subs in hex and a big BB TF has gone untouched.

I have experimented extensively with sub numbers in a hex, both singly and in pairs. Two TFs of subs seems to be most effective, although three TFs will also be better than one TF. I mostly use my subs in pairs because when one of the pair gets an attack on the enemy or even just a look at them, the other sub very often also gets an attack (because of the D/L increase you mention). So two TFs of two subs gives you four subs and very good chances of an attack on merchantmen (because of their slower speed) as opposed to a SCTF or ACTF.

I use the paired subs where I know the enemy is operating. If I am hunting, single subs cover a wider area.

PS - when joining the two subs in a TF, put the captain with better Leadership in charge. That skill has more to do with TF effectiveness and things like Aggression and Naval Skill are used when the sub actually engages in combat (whether in a TF or not).

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Keep in mind that even if you swap the command of the Russian bases, you still can't base any non-Russian planes there. It goes off of country code, not base HQ.

I can if it's a captured base. Like Shikuka. Or Toyohara. Or Mishan. Or Koutou. Or Hailar.

So I need some US troops to get to these spots so I can haul up the stars and stripes and then, potentially, I could also bring in bombers, fighters, and whatever else I wanted to bring from anywhere. The Soviets have no transport planes though, only the Patrol boats, MBR-2. So the inland bases will require some other Allied transports to move troops too. I'll be flying some from Ledo through China once things are in place.

None of those have the country code for Soviet Russia

. Country code, not control.

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The four ships attacked today makes me feel like I need to bunch up subs even more. The detection increases seem to feed the attacks by other subs in the hex. So for invasions, stick them all in the destination hex, as here. This hasn't worked at Singers with bombardments, though. I've had up to 10 subs in hex and a big BB TF has gone untouched.

I have experimented extensively with sub numbers in a hex, both singly and in pairs. Two TFs of subs seems to be most effective, although three TFs will also be better than one TF. I mostly use my subs in pairs because when one of the pair gets an attack on the enemy or even just a look at them, the other sub very often also gets an attack (because of the D/L increase you mention). So two TFs of two subs gives you four subs and very good chances of an attack on merchantmen (because of their slower speed) as opposed to a SCTF or ACTF.

I use the paired subs where I know the enemy is operating. If I am hunting, single subs cover a wider area.

PS - when joining the two subs in a TF, put the captain with better Leadership in charge. That skill has more to do with TF effectiveness and things like Aggression and Naval Skill are used when the sub actually engages in combat (whether in a TF or not).

Good to know. The two sub Bfs are tough for detection of the subs though ,so I'd use them only if there aren't so many hunters around. Lowpe is still massing forces. Maybe in a while when things slow I can try that along known paths of transport.

Naval skill should do the work of finding the enemy and evading DCs so I usually prioritise that, then aggressiveness, then leadership. Never really sandboxed it though.

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Keep in mind that even if you swap the command of the Russian bases, you still can't base any non-Russian planes there. It goes off of country code, not base HQ.

I can if it's a captured base. Like Shikuka. Or Toyohara. Or Mishan. Or Koutou. Or Hailar.

So I need some US troops to get to these spots so I can haul up the stars and stripes and then, potentially, I could also bring in bombers, fighters, and whatever else I wanted to bring from anywhere. The Soviets have no transport planes though, only the Patrol boats, MBR-2. So the inland bases will require some other Allied transports to move troops too. I'll be flying some from Ledo through China once things are in place.

None of those have the country code for Soviet Russia . Country code, not control.

Yes, Exactly.

The trouble is, I just tried it at Shikuka and it wouldn't allow me to "see" another country options even though a USA unit was in hex. Does it have to be more than a certain number of squads?

I did find out I can base a Cat group at Shikuka even though it's a Soviet (captured) base, so maybe it's irrelevant to change nationality. I'll try to fly in some 4Es and see if that works!

Allied units have landed and seem fine so far on Soviet (national) bases as well. I haven't tried to move them or do anything with them yet, so hopefully they aren't interred before next turn!

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/18/2017 8:12:29 PM

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quote:

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PACIFIC: Troops landing. No detection.

Very coy .... but where man where ?

I assume this is very bold because :

1) You are being secretive...

2) Japan must already have its hands full facing onslaughts in Manchuria, Singapore. I presume Burma is sitting playing cricket and drinking tea .... Oz is loading troops for defense "off the Oz continent"....

Your only difficulty would be a lack of carrier striking capability; and that will take time to resolve.

Personal guess: Makin ?

Based on the conditions you mention, it may not be so bold. It would be in a normal game.

I'll reveal the site and other surprises once they appear somewhat secure. Or insecure.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/18/2017 10:04:28 PM

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Feb 21, 1942

SUBS: Another Japanese xAK sunk. The IJN got one of ours off of Cali too.

DEI: The CAs go in and make a clean bombardment at Singers getting a few more disabled. Nothing to change anything, but might keep disruption high. Next turn they'll target Johore Baru, which is accessible through Singers and hosts a good 35 fighters today. Keeping damage on that base could limit limit his CAP, his supply and keep his incoming units damaged as they arrive.

I'll target troops at Singers with the 4Es. They went to Georgetown today but the 12 Nates there actually did well and fought the beasts off. Not much damage to the airfields, and nothing to the port, but an anchor symbol popped up today. I'll send recon to investigate. I can't imagine it's an AE/AD supplying the DDs, so it must be DD/TB waiting to pounce that somehow passed Singers. I hate that ships are able to get through the straits without getting smashed by 15 inch guns.

I'm going to start mining the hex that allows passage to the IO through the straits. I'll have to be careful with subs, but it could be worth it. I have a feeling he'll want to get out there soon.

I set a B-17 group to hit troops at Benkolen. Trouble is they redirected to Palembang. That would usually be disastrous, but it sees most of the CAP has shifted to Malaya. So that is discovery number 1. The second thing is even more interesting. There are no troops at Benkolen. He moved that naval guard down the coast to take Padang.

Two Dutch units one hex out will move into Benkolen. If the Japanese don't notice, they'll take the base. That will open up some opportunities!

PACIFIC: All going well. Still no detection.

CBI: Decided to shift some planes from China to Burma to see what he has there defending Magwe's oil. I can put 4 fighter groups at Lashio for sweeps and I have 35 B-26 just arrived to try and hit the base. Fingers crossed.

The IJA DAs again at Lasio, but this time gets a 1:4 and loses twice as many disabled. I'll start shifting more troops in since this is looking good.

SOVIETS: Troops manage to get into Hailar and trap all units in the base. A DA tomorrow.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 21, 42
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Submarine attack near San Luis Obispo at 220,74

Japanese Ships
SS I-1

Allied Ships
xAK Admiral Gove, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

xAK Admiral Gove is sighted by SS I-1
SS I-1 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Admiral Gove

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Submarine attack near Ominato at 118,53

Japanese Ships
xAK Kyosei Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS ShCh-115

xAK Kyosei Maru is sighted by SS ShCh-115
SS ShCh-115 attacking on the surface

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Night Naval bombardment of Sovetskaya Gavan at 124,42 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

486 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 12, on fire
CL Oi, Shell hits 1
CL Tama, Shell hits 3
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 5
DD Hasu
DD Shiokaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Murasame
DD Isokaze

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for CA Kinugasa

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Night Naval bombardment of Sovetskaya Gavan at 124,42 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
MBR-2: 2 damaged

449 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 3
CL Kitakami
CL Nagara
DD Yugao
DD Tachikaze
DD Hokaze
DD Akikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Sawakaze
DD Yunagi
DD Asanagi
DD Arashi
TB Otori

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Resources hits 1
Runway hits 2

BB Ise firing at Sovetskaya Naval Fortress

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Morning Air attack on Georgetown , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 12

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 18
LB-30 Liberator x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 10 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Georgetown , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 6

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-26 Marauder x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Naval bombardment of Singapore at 50,84

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Cornwall
CA Dorsetshire

Japanese ground losses:
222 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

CA Exeter firing at 55th Division

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Ground combat at Lashio (62,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24779 troops, 202 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 727

Defending force 14573 troops, 70 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 348

Japanese adjusted assault: 293

Allied adjusted defense: 1312

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
469 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 57 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Allied ground losses:
576 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
33rd Division
15th Army

Defending units:
13th Burma Rifles Battalion
Mandalay BMP Battalion
BFF Brigade
5th Chinese Corps
Burma Command
102nd RAF Base Force
100th RAF Base Force
3rd Burma Rifles Battalion

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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5040 troops, 56 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 176

Defending force 4223 troops, 43 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Japanese adjusted assault: 99

Allied adjusted defense: 49

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
339 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 8th SNLF
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 4th SNLF
51st Air Defense AA Regiment

Defending units:
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
VII KNIL Battalion
I Samarinda Cdo
Makassar KNIL Cdo
35th Avn Sup
Tarakan MLD Base Force
HQ TC Borneo
II Samarinda Cdo

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Singers and Sumatra. The two list of units are before and after the crossing.

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Keep in mind that even if you swap the command of the Russian bases, you still can't base any non-Russian planes there. It goes off of country code, not base HQ.

I can if it's a captured base. Like Shikuka. Or Toyohara. Or Mishan. Or Koutou. Or Hailar.

So I need some US troops to get to these spots so I can haul up the stars and stripes and then, potentially, I could also bring in bombers, fighters, and whatever else I wanted to bring from anywhere. The Soviets have no transport planes though, only the Patrol boats, MBR-2. So the inland bases will require some other Allied transports to move troops too. I'll be flying some from Ledo through China once things are in place.

None of those have the country code for Soviet Russia . Country code, not control.

Yes, Exactly.

The trouble is, I just tried it at Shikuka and it wouldn't allow me to "see" another country options even though a USA unit was in hex. Does it have to be more than a certain number of squads?

I did find out I can base a Cat group at Shikuka even though it's a Soviet (captured) base, so maybe it's irrelevant to change nationality. I'll try to fly in some 4Es and see if that works!

Allied units have landed and seem fine so far on Soviet (national) bases as well. I haven't tried to move them or do anything with them yet, so hopefully they aren't interred before next turn!

The AI may not have presented the option of changing base admin to US because there were not enough PP to do so.

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The four ships attacked today makes me feel like I need to bunch up subs even more. The detection increases seem to feed the attacks by other subs in the hex. So for invasions, stick them all in the destination hex, as here. This hasn't worked at Singers with bombardments, though. I've had up to 10 subs in hex and a big BB TF has gone untouched.

I have experimented extensively with sub numbers in a hex, both singly and in pairs. Two TFs of subs seems to be most effective, although three TFs will also be better than one TF. I mostly use my subs in pairs because when one of the pair gets an attack on the enemy or even just a look at them, the other sub very often also gets an attack (because of the D/L increase you mention). So two TFs of two subs gives you four subs and very good chances of an attack on merchantmen (because of their slower speed) as opposed to a SCTF or ACTF.

I use the paired subs where I know the enemy is operating. If I am hunting, single subs cover a wider area.

PS - when joining the two subs in a TF, put the captain with better Leadership in charge. That skill has more to do with TF effectiveness and things like Aggression and Naval Skill are used when the sub actually engages in combat (whether in a TF or not).

Good to know. The two sub Bfs are tough for detection of the subs though ,so I'd use them only if there aren't so many hunters around. Lowpe is still massing forces. Maybe in a while when things slow I can try that along known paths of transport.

Naval skill should do the work of finding the enemy and evading DCs so I usually prioritise that, then aggressiveness, then leadership. Never really sandboxed it though.

My main point about the subs was not to overload a single hex with TFs. Whenever I tried more than three sub TFs in a hex, they would not attack. Seems like the AI freezes up trying to decide how to resolve all the detection and combat initiation.

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Keep in mind that even if you swap the command of the Russian bases, you still can't base any non-Russian planes there. It goes off of country code, not base HQ.

I can if it's a captured base. Like Shikuka. Or Toyohara. Or Mishan. Or Koutou. Or Hailar.

So I need some US troops to get to these spots so I can haul up the stars and stripes and then, potentially, I could also bring in bombers, fighters, and whatever else I wanted to bring from anywhere. The Soviets have no transport planes though, only the Patrol boats, MBR-2. So the inland bases will require some other Allied transports to move troops too. I'll be flying some from Ledo through China once things are in place.

None of those have the country code for Soviet Russia . Country code, not control.

Yes, Exactly.

The trouble is, I just tried it at Shikuka and it wouldn't allow me to "see" another country options even though a USA unit was in hex. Does it have to be more than a certain number of squads?

I did find out I can base a Cat group at Shikuka even though it's a Soviet (captured) base, so maybe it's irrelevant to change nationality. I'll try to fly in some 4Es and see if that works!

Allied units have landed and seem fine so far on Soviet (national) bases as well. I haven't tried to move them or do anything with them yet, so hopefully they aren't interred before next turn!

The AI may not have presented the option of changing base admin to US because there were not enough PP to do so.

There are enough PP.

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Based on the conditions you mention, it may not be so bold. It would be in a normal game.

I'll reveal the site and other surprises once they appear somewhat secure. Or insecure.

Well written ~ keeping suspense in your AAR ~ Bravo

Any other subscribers want to place some bets ?

Feb 1942: Allies Land in the Pacific

Makin ? 5:1 odds

Allingap (spelling?) 4:1

Wake: 3:1

Guam 7:4

Bravo...

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Can I just say this is the most fun I've had playing this game?

I know it's to my advantage that Lowpe decided to keep the Soviets active when he blundered into the coastline, but still I think he is also finding it intriguing, unusualyl challenging and lots of fun. We're each getting our shots in, each reacting to the other's strategic challenges, and it's just an unusual war from the very beginning.

The turn is delayed while I think he recovers from the shock of having his units unexpectedly surrounded at Hailar and tries to figure out how his rail has been blocked without him knowing. (He mentions a bug, but it's only a Soviet infantry bug).

I'll begin to update but don't have the turn so don't know everything yet.

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The four ships attacked today makes me feel like I need to bunch up subs even more. The detection increases seem to feed the attacks by other subs in the hex. So for invasions, stick them all in the destination hex, as here. This hasn't worked at Singers with bombardments, though. I've had up to 10 subs in hex and a big BB TF has gone untouched.

I have experimented extensively with sub numbers in a hex, both singly and in pairs. Two TFs of subs seems to be most effective, although three TFs will also be better than one TF. I mostly use my subs in pairs because when one of the pair gets an attack on the enemy or even just a look at them, the other sub very often also gets an attack (because of the D/L increase you mention). So two TFs of two subs gives you four subs and very good chances of an attack on merchantmen (because of their slower speed) as opposed to a SCTF or ACTF.

I use the paired subs where I know the enemy is operating. If I am hunting, single subs cover a wider area.

PS - when joining the two subs in a TF, put the captain with better Leadership in charge. That skill has more to do with TF effectiveness and things like Aggression and Naval Skill are used when the sub actually engages in combat (whether in a TF or not).

Good to know. The two sub Bfs are tough for detection of the subs though ,so I'd use them only if there aren't so many hunters around. Lowpe is still massing forces. Maybe in a while when things slow I can try that along known paths of transport.

Naval skill should do the work of finding the enemy and evading DCs so I usually prioritise that, then aggressiveness, then leadership. Never really sandboxed it though.

My main point about the subs was not to overload a single hex with TFs. Whenever I tried more than three sub TFs in a hex, they would not attack. Seems like the AI freezes up trying to decide how to resolve all the detection and combat initiation.

In this case I had I think 8 Soviet subs (single boat TFs) in one hex and got four hits from four different subs.

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Feb 22, 1942

In the night RN cruisers find the IJN DDs near the Sumatran coast and engage, crossing the T. With 42% moonlight and this advantage, plus a huge advantage in gunnery, I'd have though we could get a better result. Somehow the Japanese got in a few shots and skedaddled. I'll try again next turn. Mining of the Singers strait entry point will commence next turn so that these DDs will have a hard time escaping and anything else on the way may encounter some surprises passing through.

Our subs will be restricted accordingly and rebased so they don't automatically choose this as a return route when replenishing or to fix damage.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 22, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Langsa at 46,72, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Minazuki, Shell hits 1
DD Tsuga

Allied Ships
CL Enterprise
CL Emerald, Shell hits 1
DD Electra, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Encounter

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 42% moonlight: 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Bettington, H.B. crosses the 'T'
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/20/2017 9:53:37 AM

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After this the Abiel and Triophant ran into another massive barge convoy. I may have to investigate tomorrow and send a bunch of small Bfs at Langsha and Georgetown to hit anything moving. It'd be nice to thwart these efforts and it's going to be hard to supply the troops on Sumatra in combat if they can't control the waters here.

Abdiel is being sent up to be used for fast transport, since she is really fast and holds some cargo. Once the DDs are neutralised I should be able to send her form Sabang in one turn with 550 supply to Singers.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Medan at 46,75, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
LB-503
LB-504
LB-505
LB-506
LB-507
LB-508
LB-509
LB-510
LB-513
LB-514
LB-515
LB-136
LB-137
LB-138
LB-139
LB-140
LB-141
LB-142
LB-143
LB-516
LB-517
LB-518
LB-1001
LB-1002

Allied Ships
CM Abdiel
DD Le Triomphant

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 42% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/20/2017 9:58:10 AM

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The RN cruisers bombard Johore Baru and get good results. Some 14 squads destroyed and 39 disabled. Also good intel, showing a regiment here (probably an element of a yet to be formed division, so nice to hit it and get some squads thrown out of whack).

Also got 5 total supply hits, which will add up if we can keep this going. He needs supply to replace destroyed squads after the crossing.

This also helped later when the air groups here were in action over Singers with a few missing planes and some less than tip top morale.

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Night Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru at 50,83

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CA Cornwall
CA Dorsetshire
DD Tenedos
DD Bagley

Japanese ground losses:
559 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 19
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 2

CA Exeter firing at 56th Infantry Regiment
Walrus II acting as spotter for CA Cornwall
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/20/2017 1:00:34 PM

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A surprise strike on Magwe oil went swimmingly. Only 12 Nates were defending, and the three sweeping groups of Hurri IIb and Buffs took care of them before the bombers arrived. The 35 Marauders did their job, getting a total of 22 hit to the oil! Well done for rookie pilots on their first mission, all about 45 exp and 55-60 skill.

I'll be curious to see what actual damage this has done during the turn, if I have eyes on it next turn. I might have to recon later.

The question is, do I just reload and go again or is he going to move in 50 fighters and really try to protect the remaining oil?

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 12

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet

Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 14
B-26 Marauder x 15

No Allied losses

Oil hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9

No Allied losses

Oil hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 8
B-26 Marauder x 7

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed by flak

Oil hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/20/2017 3:43:41 PM

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The first day of bombing troop at Singers goes well. Not amazing results, but the fact that troops were CAPed over this base with its 120 fighters makes me happy. The Japanese groups included four landed groups from CVs as well as four Sentais of IJAAF planes. I'm wondering if some of these were even CAPing from Palembang. Altogether only 24 planes got up to contest so those groups must have been on partial LR CAP, or really depleted. Or both.

I'll be interested to see how much is left at Johore Baru tomorrow and if any CAP is up at Singers. He needs to get this base under control, but the MTBs, mines, subs CD guns and now CAs there to defend will make it that much harder, and from the air the Hurris and P-38s make sweeping a dubious choice. I have to start checking mine pools to see where I can draw form still. I want to save Soviet mines for their ports, but Dutch, British and US mines are all fair game for Singers and the straits. I think I'm out of the mines the Abdiel uses, but the subs might have some left for the RN and I know the USN subs can still mine. I need about 80-100 in the hex near Singers to be dropped at once and soon.

The bombardment at Singers is tough, and his arty is strong. We lose 10 and have 15 infantry squads disabled. Won't do that again, but it's nice to see what's here. I'll stick to air and sea bombardments from now on.

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Afternoon Air attack on 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 2
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2
B-17E Fortress x 15
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-26 Marauder x 3
P-38E Lightning x 8
P-39D Airacobra x 17
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
201 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-43-Ib Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 4000.
Raid is overhead
3rd Ku S-1/B with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 4000.
Raid is overhead
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 4000.
Raid is overhead
Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 4000.
Raid is overhead
Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 4000.
Raid is overhead
59th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-43-Ib Oscar (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 9000.
Raid is overhead
70th Sentai with Ki-43-Ia Oscar (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 4000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 4000.
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment ...

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Afternoon Air attack on 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 6
B-17D Fortress x 2
P-38E Lightning x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 28736 troops, 355 guns, 98 vehicles, Assault Value = 1250

Defending force 61851 troops, 811 guns, 339 vehicles, Assault Value = 1389

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Mysore Battalion
2nd Gordons Battalion
5/14th Punjab Battalion
FMSV Brigade
1st Malay Battalion
3rd SSVF Battalion
2nd Loyal Battalion
1st Hyderabad Battalion
22nd Australian Brigade
SSVF Brigade
27th Australian Brigade
11th Indian Division
2nd Malay Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
2/15 Punjab Battalion
2/17 Dogra Battalion
9th Indian Division
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
109th RN Base Force /1
Singapore Fortress
Singapore Base Force
113th RAF Adv Base Force
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
109th RAF Adv Base Force
223 Group RAF
Malaya Army
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st ISF Base Force
AHQ Far East
224 Group RAF /2
Malayan Air Wing
112th RAF Adv Base Force
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
III Indian Corps
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
110th RAF Adv Base Force
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
2nd ISF Base Force /1

Defending units:
5th Division
56th Division
4th Division
38th Division
55th Division
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
5th Mortar Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/20/2017 3:48:05 PM

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The IJA gives Wenchow a try, but it doesn't go well, even after a hundred or so bombers hit the base first. Not too concerned what happens here, but I'm happy it may take a while and potentially wear down three IJA divisions.

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Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26138 troops, 243 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 1240

Defending force 23252 troops, 81 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 653

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 1392

Allied adjusted defense: 2131

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2003 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 216 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled

Allied ground losses:
242 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
22nd Division
17th Division
32nd Division
13th Army
4th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
88th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
25th Group Army
3rd War Area
14th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 9/20/2017 3:50:54 PM

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The first attack at Hailar takes the base. Too bad the division that was here left. In any case this will solidify the northern border area and bag another good 10k of IJA troops. I'll see if he decides to reinforce Anshan before moving there, but if he does that may leave other opportunities around the map here. The bases on the ends of rail lines are my first goals, though, so i'd like to get it.

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Ground combat at Hailar (107,30)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 39445 troops, 711 guns, 2849 vehicles, Assault Value = 1902

Defending force 9023 troops, 57 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 175

Allied adjusted assault: 1514

Japanese adjusted defense: 37

Allied assault odds: 40 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Hailar !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2044 casualties reported
Squads: 63 destroyed, 168 disabled
Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 48 (22 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Vehicles lost 45 (45 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
9th Armored Car Brigade
3rd Motorized Rifle Regiment
36th Motor Rifle Division
57th Motor Rifle Division
7th Mongolian Motor Brigade
82nd Tank Battalion
61st Tank Division
7th Mongolian Cavalry Division
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
17th Army
629th Cannon Regiment
624th Cannon Regiment
185th Cannon Regiment
1141st Cannon Regiment
102nd Engineer Battalion
282nd/382nd AA Battalion

Defending units:
8th Border Defense Fortress
6th Manchukuo Cav Brigade
49th Const Co
6th Army
51st JAAF AF Bn
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In this case I had I think 8 Soviet subs (single boat TFs) in one hex and got four hits from four different subs.

Interesting! What patch/game version are you playing? I am thinking the "problem" may have been addressed in the various updates or mods.

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The first attack at Hailar takes the base. Too bad the division that was here left. In any case this will solidify the northern border area and bag another good 10k of IJA troops. I'll see if he decides to reinforce Anshan before moving there, but if he does that may leave other opportunities around the map here. The bases on the ends of rail lines are my first goals, though, so i'd like to get it.

Anshan is four hexes from Port Arthur. I presume you mean Arshaan which is close to Hailar?

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The first attack at Hailar takes the base. Too bad the division that was here left. In any case this will solidify the northern border area and bag another good 10k of IJA troops. I'll see if he decides to reinforce Anshan before moving there, but if he does that may leave other opportunities around the map here. The bases on the ends of rail lines are my first goals, though, so i'd like to get it.

Anshan is four hexes from Port Arthur. I presume you mean Arshaan which is close to Hailar?

That is correct. Arshaan. Sorry for the confusion. I'll get to Anshan later.

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In this case I had I think 8 Soviet subs (single boat TFs) in one hex and got four hits from four different subs.

Interesting! What patch/game version are you playing? I am thinking the "problem" may have been addressed in the various updates or mods.

This is a DBB Scen 28-C game

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In the night RN cruisers find the IJN DDs near the Sumatran coast and engage, crossing the T. With 42% moonlight and this advantage, plus a huge advantage in gunnery, I'd have though we could get a better result. Somehow the Japanese got in a few shots and skedaddled.

IMHO not all that surprising. In February 1942 the IJN has a major advantage in Night-time surface combat, and the "E" class CL's are among the weakest in the Allied OOB. 9,000 yards is a fair distance for WWI-vintage guns.

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In the night RN cruisers find the IJN DDs near the Sumatran coast and engage, crossing the T. With 42% moonlight and this advantage, plus a huge advantage in gunnery, I'd have though we could get a better result. Somehow the Japanese got in a few shots and skedaddled.

IMHO not all that surprising. In February 1942 the IJN has a major advantage in Night-time surface combat, and the "E" class CL's are among the weakest in the Allied OOB. 9,000 yards is a fair distance for WWI-vintage guns.

Because most of these ships have seen extensive action they have good night experience. That was one of my goals in playing aggressively early in the DEI while there were still many bases to retreat to and fix up damaged ships. Once the CVs were in trouble the damage spiralled too often into sunk ships, but the ones that made have good night EXP. These two cruisers are about 55 and 61 night EXP, not quite Japanese, but good. Daytime they're both in the mid 60s.

So I do expect a lot!! I change out captains, watch EXP gain and try to generally put he best crews into action. I get that these are old and the guns aren't the best, but the IJN DDs here are also from the 20s, and small, with old guns. Just gotta catch them long enough to really engage.

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