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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/4/2018 1:25:20 PM   
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It still floors me that the Soviets have such huge forces available in the Far East at a time when historically they were in a desperate fight for survival against the Germans.


Yes it's a bit of science fiction. The Soviets barely had the logistical capability to sustain an attack in their own country. No way could they do that in Asia. And then there is the lend lease problem. 50% of Lend Lease went through the Pacific because Japan and the USSR were not at war. So all of the Lend Lease would now have to go through much more dangerous Murmansk and Arkhangelsk route. Or the very long Persian route (can you say bottle neck) at a time when the Germans were pushing towards the Caspian and the rail line that moved supplies from Persia. The Japanese subs would have had a field day against the Soviet Lend Lease cargo carriers that chanced the Pacific route.

The logic of any Japanese action against the Soviets would be utterly stupid and the ability of the Soviets to conduct an offensive deep into Japanese held lands would be foolish at best. I really don't understand the logic of even making a Japanese/Soviet war this early possible. It should just be made impossible until the historic date.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/4/2018 1:36:09 PM   
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I really don't understand the logic of even making a Japanese/Soviet war this early possible. It should just be made impossible until the historic date.



Well, it kind of was fun for a bit. Still is fun for the Allies.

There definitely is a sweet spot when Japan can attack the Soviets and do half decently.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/5/2018 1:00:57 PM   
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Well, it kind of was fun for a bit. Still is fun for the Allies.



Quite honestly your fighting spirit and good sportsmanship under severe duress has been an inspiration to all of us.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/8/2018 1:15:10 PM   
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Allies going all out with wide front offensive...

Here numerous PT boat skirmishes were fought in very bad weather. Ultimately, IJN sank 10+ for no loss except supplies.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/8/2018 1:16:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anywhere the Chinese or Soviets can move forward (they have a great advantage in number of units) they are...air power is trying to stop two corp here.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/8/2018 1:17:33 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/8/2018 1:18:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Trying to whittle down Soviet tanks...the eastern front near Vlad opened up with Soviet bombardments all up and down it.

The supply drain is immense.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/8/2018 1:20:21 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/8/2018 1:21:28 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/13/2018 1:19:27 PM   
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Egads, more night bombing.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/13/2018 1:20:46 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/13/2018 1:21:41 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/13/2018 1:23:18 PM   
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Soviet divebombers escorted and swept prior with Migs are attacking IJA Tank Divisions.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/13/2018 1:26:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		ABDA forces pushing hard...can't stop them. Many units cut off.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/13/2018 3:39:03 PM   
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That's why Obvert is pushing hard in China and Manchukuo to prevent you from reinforcing SC Sea from there?

But then you could opt for extracting Home Defense divisions?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/13/2018 4:17:26 PM   
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At this point shouldn't you have a big load of PPs?

That's why Obvert is pushing hard in China and Manchukuo to prevent you from reinforcing SC Sea from there?

But then you could opt for extracting Home Defense divisions?


I just bought out a restricted division from Honshu, and it will arrive in SR mode probably tomorrow at Fusan.

Of bought out divisions two have gone to China/Manchuko (plus the one arriving tomorrow which makes 3), 1 went to Luzon, 1 went to Sakhalin if I recall correctly.

I have a mess of artillery that is too expensive to buyout, and I think 2 more divisions to buy out from Honshu.

I need to check and see when the Soviets ship off 5-7 divisions to Moscow...surely it happens between now and December.


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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/21/2018 1:24:31 PM   
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On this full front war, Japan cannot hope to create a reversal. Outnumbered everywhere...the IJN uses valuable supplies to attempt to stem the marauding 3rd Marine Division but despite the might Yamoto the bombardment is simply lackluster against the Allied forces in tough terrain.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/21/2018 1:25:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Despite a sweeping destroyer squadron, the pesky small craft are still around...to engage the bombardment fleet...this time after the bombardment.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/21/2018 1:28:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Air operations are from east to west across the map...a nasty Lightning sweep does damage at Bering Island in the far east, while some Zekes catch some Banshees in the far west. Plenty of action all over.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/21/2018 1:29:14 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/21/2018 1:30:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviets divert to the west along the river to Taonan...action here is heavy with massive Soviet artillery spearpoints.

The supply drain is enormous.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/21/2018 1:33:15 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 11/21/2018 10:41:17 PM   
adarbrauner

 

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October 13, 1942

On this full front war, Japan cannot hope to create a reversal.




The reversal has seemingly to come on and from the sea....winning a decisive aircarft carriers for example, before it's too late;

then, who knows;

problem is fuel, how can you d without, Obvert has inferted the mortal blow seizing Borneo...still, if naval supremacy is achieved, then maube maybe we could still hope and dream;


the only potential Allied Achilles' Tendon is that IF your really regain dominance in the china sea as auspiced, then all of his overextended land units shall be at great risk;

with possibility to cut of big armies, im Malay, in Indochina; maybe...

Dream man dream, keep dreamin'!

great effort, great war;

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/2/2018 11:45:07 AM   
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The pummeling continues, as Japan cannot stop the combined Allied/Soviet ground forces...

Another invasion




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/2/2018 11:47:32 AM   
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October 13, 1942

On this full front war, Japan cannot hope to create a reversal.




The reversal has seemingly to come on and from the sea....winning a decisive aircarft carriers for example, before it's too late;

then, who knows;

problem is fuel, how can you d without, Obvert has inferted the mortal blow seizing Borneo...still, if naval supremacy is achieved, then maube maybe we could still hope and dream;


the only potential Allied Achilles' Tendon is that IF your really regain dominance in the china sea as auspiced, then all of his overextended land units shall be at great risk;

with possibility to cut of big armies, im Malay, in Indochina; maybe...

Dream man dream, keep dreamin'!

great effort, great war;



Thanks for the kind words, but the Allies don't really need to push in the China Sea...their land forces are victorious from the North Pacific (soon linking Alaska to Soviets) across Manchuko, China, Burma, Indochina, Thailand and the far west. I doubt I can keep Borneo much longer.



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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/2/2018 11:52:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have nothing to stop the Soviet tank divisions to the north, about a dozen bases are below their support limit in a vain attempt to stem the combined Allied/Soviet offensive.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/2/2018 12:01:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Allies have used their beasts excellently. They strike China heavily, Bering Island, and Indochina.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/2/2018 12:03:52 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/2/2018 12:05:22 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/2/2018 12:23:52 PM   
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