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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/11/2019 4:00:27 PM   
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Obvert. Thanks! I've had to make guessimates to fill in plane types from your original models. I wonder if one allied counter is heavy bombers at 20K to hit the airfield coupled with layered sweeps. If I don't go high he hits the airfields and puts them out of commission.

Bif that was pretty funny. Wrong, but still pretty funny! :)


If you have radar in the base his bombers at 20k will be toast without heavy sweeps ahead. He can always hit the airfields. The question is what kind of a tithe can you take for each strike?

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/11/2019 4:06:44 PM   
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I suspect that because it's Palembang at some point soon Scott will just "flood the zone" and put everything that can fly over it to lay waste to the oil fields. Then it won't matter. But each one of his planes I shoot down is another VP in the basket.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/12/2019 5:37:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		A couple of non-eventful days have past and, given the hard fighting war we're in now that's a minor blessing. It means my planes at Singapore and Palembang can rest and repair. As you can see, Scott did capture my last remaining base on Java. I got a couple turns where I was able to airlift out parts of several units but it's all over but the shouting there. With no base, there is no airlift.






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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/12/2019 5:42:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		But, these sacrifices are not in vain. Here is the latest fuel convoy heading back to the HI. I've got almost 80K oil in Singapore that will go out on the next convoy and Palembang is still pumping out 9K or so fuel per turn. Scott, after losing what looks like two more subs, seems to have finally pulled them away from Singapore. Good thing for them as I have the new E boats patrolling those waters and they are deadly in shallow water.

After Scott shuts down Palembang my plan is to send the Imperial fleet back to the HI to contest the inner core. I don't think that there is any real sense in contesting what's left of the DEI when the fleet can help keep the allies at bay for longer up north (and use less fuel in doing so.






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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/12/2019 11:05:24 PM   
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A couple of non-eventful days have past and, given the hard fighting war we're in now that's a minor blessing. It means my planes at Singapore and Palembang can rest and repair. As you can see, Scott did capture my last remaining base on Java. I got a couple turns where I was able to airlift out parts of several units but it's all over but the shouting there. With no base, there is no airlift.






You might be able to retrieve some of those troops with a FT TF using the "Pick up troops" order (after you set the destination hex where the troops are). It works for non-base shores but I am not sure if it can be done at an enemy held base. APDs can usually load in one phase and get outta Dodge. Your call on whether it's worth risking the FT TF.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/13/2019 1:55:06 PM   
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I thought about that but my FT TF would be stuck out in the middle of Original Inhabitant country at the end of their move so I think my boys are there to hold on to the allies as long as possible. Interestingly, Scott has opted to bombard for the past two turns. Maybe he's waiting to completely surround them or to prevent the remnants I flew out from starting the long rebuilding process. At least they're tying down three allied divisions plus various other sundry troops.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/13/2019 1:59:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was another quiet turn. Scott did blast my poor SNLF in Oosthaven to smithereens and I suspect that he will land there. It's not worth contesting and he can then do an overland crawl to Palembang but, again, I don't think there is much to stop that. Palembang itself has level 5 forts and I can fly in some reinforcements. And, it will take him a couple of weeks to get to the port to start fighting anyway.

A couple of attempted ambushes this turn. First, Scott is bombing my poor boys on Java with SBDs but he's not sweeping anymore. Two long range CAPs from Palembang may be able to put some hurt on his bombers (I'm betting that Scott won't do a full on sweep bomber raid on Palembang this turn. Now that his fingers got burned it looks like he's taking a more cautious approach). Second, in Burma it dawned on me that he keeps bombing the same base over and over and I have a lot of flak sitting around in Moulmein not doing anything. So, I'll rail it into that base and see if I can take down a few planes. It will have to march back but it may reduce some of the pressure on me there.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/13/2019 2:25:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a rail line between Oosthoven and a base (Praboemoelih), across the river from Palembang. Do you have that base garrisoned with anything to prevent him from using paras from capturing it and freeing up the rail line to speed his advance to Palembang?

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/13/2019 2:42:41 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/13/2019 3:13:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bif, that is a good point and Scott is an aggressive player who might just try that. The downside is that it's a clear hex that faces obliteration from the air for any force I put in there. At the same time, any force he airdrops into there faces both CAP intercepting the transports (Scott may not know that my CAP over Palembang is set at 0 hexes) and my own bombers killing his unit there. If he does land Paras in that hex it would be worth a KB sortie to really put a land strike in on them. On the whole, I'm likely to leave Probomoelih ungarrisoned. But thanks for the tip!

Ranger Joe, that's an interesting option. I wonder if Scott would even know that I had LRCAP over his base if he does not fly any missions into that hex.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/14/2019 6:56:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Beware the LRCAP Trap. :) I put some Franks and Zeros over Java and managed to catch a number of Scott's SBD's unescorted and unswept bombing my boys who are stranded there. I'm sure it cheered them up and inspired them to continue to fight for the Emperor. I was actually a bit lucky on this as Scott also hit the hex with heavy bombers but they were not in the first wave. If they had been my ops points would have been used up before the dive bombers showed up.

Now, it's back to CAP over Palembang.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/14/2019 7:02:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		In other news, I think Scott is invading Ooosthaven but I'm not sure. Control of the hex flipped at the start of the turn and then a large number of ships showed up off shore. I wonder if he had an invasion set that got screwed up by the control flipping? In any event, each turn delay in his landing forces is another turn of fuel out of Palembang. I have a load of 28K heading to Singapore and some empty TKs heading in to bring it back to the HI. Singapore also has about 67K oil that can head home as well.

If I'm still shipping hydrocarbons out of Palembang at the end of April I'm going to count that as a major win! Assuming he does not bomb it I figure a more realistic target is 2 weeks of production.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/15/2019 1:28:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another quiet turn. Scott is definitely up to something at Oosthaven given the number of ships that are hanging out there. I don't know what's there so I have a recon mission set for it. No action in the air but I think I got two more subs. At least there were sinking sounds after they got pounded by depth charges. One of my subs hit a TK but it was a dud. I can't complain too much about that given Scott's recent dud against the Hiryu. :)

Scott did tell me last night that one of his CVEs that was hit with two torpedoes was at 98% (!) flotation damage and made it back to port. That ship must have had it's deck underwater to be at 98%. I need to adpot the double tap method from ZombieLand! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmA2WYyw-_A






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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:11:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, Scott is definitely up to something in Sumatra. More forces are reported to be heading north. I think I'll move my amphib brigade (just shipped in from the HI) and move it to Palembang. Scott can take the hex next to Palembang and then my hope is to subject him to massive air bombardment and be able to prevent him from pushing me out of the base hex. If Scott is in the base hex does that shut down the oil wells?




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:12:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		And, we're at the start of another month so here is the current VP status. Still barely at 2-1 but I won't hold that status on into 1945 so this will be a long haul to eke out a victory.

BTW, my little flak ambush worked in Burma taking out 5 B-25s.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:14:53 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:16:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've basically shut down all shipbuilding except for navy units. And, all extra ships are in Tokyo. When Scott bombs it there will be a wall of flak and fighters waiting to take a toll. Does the A-bomb kill ships in port?




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:16:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are planes losses. Look how many transports he's lost to ops. My guess is he has intensive supply fights into Burma.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:17:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry, that last one was the major ship losses screen. I think two of his CVs are actually still afloat someplace.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:18:34 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:19:01 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:21:06 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:21:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now we're on the plane losses. As I said above, lots of C-47s flying in bad weather over Burma is my guess.




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:22:17 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 2:23:10 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 5:02:52 PM   
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Now we're on the plane losses. As I said above, lots of C-47s flying in bad weather over Burma is my guess.


Some of the C-47 parts were made out of magnesium. You know, the stuff that burns so well and brightly that they use it for flares. Apparently Ricky Nelson's plane was one of those planes that had magnesium parts and it caught on fire when it was flying. That is not a good thing, when the plane is on fire while in the air.

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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/17/2019 8:26:49 PM   
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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/18/2019 1:42:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Two turns have past (we shall not mention the dud torpedo that hit the Warspite). Scott made another fighter sweep over Palembang. If you factor in the ops losses, the results were pretty good. He lost just slightly more planes than I did. Given FOW I probably lost slightly more. Still, a good result and lots of dead P-38-Js. But, not much of a dent in the P-47s. Let's hope Scott bombs and they go in before the sweeps. :)




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/18/2019 1:46:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I rotated the hard hit squadrons to Singapore and rotated in fresh squadrons from there. I have one zero squadron on night patrol since he started night bombing with his heavies. If he comes in low with B-25s he could do some night bombing damage. The Franks are at 9K, the Jacks and Tojos in the middle and the zeros are down low for the daylight CAP. He can wear me down given his superior fighter production but, he's likely losing a number of pilots. It's a good sign for my pilots that most of the squadrons have more pilots left than planes (so many planes are shot down but the pilots make it back alive).




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RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) - 3/18/2019 11:56:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh man, that was an ugly turn in the air. It looked like Scott stuck with the same tactics of strato sweeping but this time he killed me at a 3-1 rate. The worst turn in the air over Palembang for me yet. I'm not sure what happened but it did not start off well when his night bombing PYB-Liberators shot down 3 CAP zeros for no loss. I pulled all my planes that could fly out of Palembang this turn as I did not want to rotate in my fresh squadrons from Singapore. I would have few aircraft and it really does not look like Scott took to many hits. His P-47 and Corsair squadrons flew in without opposition.

If he bombs Palembang this turn there is not much I can do about it. If I make it to next turn, I'll try the air defense again. But, a sad day for the Japanese airforce. If anyone has any ideas, I'll all ears.

In other news, it looks as if a British amphib TF is heading to Sumatra. The KB has sortied from Singapore and is heading up the Straits of Malacca. I expect Scott is doing this as a feint but we'll find out soon enough.






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