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ORIGINAL: palioboy2

I'm sure this has been asked but I haven't been able to find a satisfactory answer in the manual or through searching here.

How long does it normally take squads and other devices to become undisabled?

What effects this time? I assume sufficient support and supply are important. Does it make a difference what mode they are in? Being in a base vs not? Does the size of the base matter?

I assume you want a leader with a high admin rating.

I am fighting off a Japanese invasion of Oz and I launched a few counter attacks that worked out very well as far and disrupting my opponents initiative... until I launched one too many and mangled a few of my divisions. Any advice on getting these units back into fighting shape would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Does aggression really play no part in land combat units? Not my experience! And that makes me question the veracity of the chart...for what it leaves out.

I also think Naval might play a part in air squadrons performing naval strikes.

I probably could think of more omissions, but I fear I might be incorrect and don't want to create urban myths of the game.

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Batch of tests #4: rest and recuperation
Dozens of 100% disabled divisions in base and non-bases hexes in rest mode, combined with lots of support units (HQs with lots of support squads) in combat mode.
Main finding #1 (surprising) is that Admin skill of Div commander plays absolutely no role in how quickly squads would repair. Other skills also do not correlate with repair speed.
Main finding #2 (a bit surprising) is that IDs seem to repair slightly faster in a developed base hex compared to non-base, but not that much faster. In 60 turns standard TOE IDs repaired about 23-30% in base and 16-25% in non-base hexes.
Main finding #3 (not surprising) is that ABC-divided IDs repair significantly (~2 times) faster compared to whole IDs.

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

I have tested rest and recuparation here http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4211316
This is the recap of my results

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Batch of tests #4: rest and recuperation
Dozens of 100% disabled divisions in base and non-bases hexes in rest mode, combined with lots of support units (HQs with lots of support squads) in combat mode.
Main finding #1 (surprising) is that Admin skill of Div commander plays absolutely no role in how quickly squads would repair. Other skills also do not correlate with repair speed.
Main finding #2 (a bit surprising) is that IDs seem to repair slightly faster in a developed base hex compared to non-base, but not that much faster. In 60 turns standard TOE IDs repaired about 23-30% in base and 16-25% in non-base hexes.
Main finding #3 (not surprising) is that ABC-divided IDs repair significantly (~2 times) faster compared to whole IDs.

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ORIGINAL: Aurorus

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

I have tested rest and recuparation here http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4211316
This is the recap of my results

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Batch of tests #4: rest and recuperation
Dozens of 100% disabled divisions in base and non-bases hexes in rest mode, combined with lots of support units (HQs with lots of support squads) in combat mode.
Main finding #1 (surprising) is that Admin skill of Div commander plays absolutely no role in how quickly squads would repair. Other skills also do not correlate with repair speed.
Main finding #2 (a bit surprising) is that IDs seem to repair slightly faster in a developed base hex compared to non-base, but not that much faster. In 60 turns standard TOE IDs repaired about 23-30% in base and 16-25% in non-base hexes.
Main finding #3 (not surprising) is that ABC-divided IDs repair significantly (~2 times) faster compared to whole IDs.

I examined your test results to try to understand why I have been able to consistently achieve better results than your tests recorded. I wish I knew more about how exactly you conducted those tests. I am often able to achieve 8% per day of unit strength recovered from disabled, given optimum conditions. Since I am usually trying to have replacements added to the unit as well as recovering disabled sqauds, my optimum conditions include several factors that supposedly do not have any bearing on recovering disabled squads. It is difficult to say, therefore, which factors are the most significant in my set of "optimum" conditions. These optimum conditions include: a base with 20K supply, better a group of bases, connected by good supply paths, all with 20K supply (this improves replacement cycle checks but is not stated to have any effect on recovering disabled squads), a high administration unit leader, a high inspiration and administration HQ in command range, a large base (the larger the better, of this, I am certain), unit is in "rest" mode, and ample support (the more the better).

Therefore, I cannot say for certain that administration affects the recovery rate, as I have never isolated this variable. I can say for certain, that under the above set of conditions, the recovery of disabled squads rate is much, much higher than if none of these conditions are present.

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ORIGINAL: Aurorus
I examined your test results to try to understand why I have been able to consistently achieve better results than your tests recorded.

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

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ORIGINAL: Aurorus
I examined your test results to try to understand why I have been able to consistently achieve better results than your tests recorded.

I was aiming not for max speed of recovery in my tests, but for differentiating factors. So far those turned out to be base vs non-base and divided vs non-divided LCUs. Commander stats did not manifest themselves as a factor, and I believe I had enough observations to make this conclusion. In fact far more observations (unedr same conditions, from same starting point etc) that a typical player has in a typical game.
Your 8% max comes from initial stages where mechanical devices repair. Squads are much more slow to come online, so % speed suffers. Also you might have disablements+replacements, mine were pure disablements. It is a simple test to be done, I would welcome anyone repeating it in their own setting. Am really uncomfortable that commanders do not seem to contribute.