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2x3+ 013 Axis Air Losses - 12/29/2019 5:34:15 PM   
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T013 Axis Air Losses

This turn we were short on bombers (about 600 on map) as so many had to be sent to reserve. We also heard no Soviet partisan supply flights during their logistics phase!




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2x3+ 013+ Axis Wintering Plans - 12/29/2019 10:10:25 PM   
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Turn 13 and we are already planning how to winter key units during the blizzard

The first suggestion is to put into winter quarters units with 86 morale or more. Putting them into cities and into towns of size 4 or more will mean we keep their high morale over the blizzard as well as replace existing garrison units that can be used at the front instead. 85 is a key threshold for motorised - above that and you need one less movement point to enter enemy territory. For motorised units it will also mean far fewer vehicles and AFVs lost over winter.

However we will make exception for elite units like 78 infantry, Gross Deutschland, SS Wiking etc (they will have base morale above 85 anyway and can return to it in the summer) and for units which are withdrawing (as we do not care about morale after they withdraw).

Perhaps we can winter more motorised with a lower threshold?

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2x3+ 001-013 Axis Unit Assignments - 12/29/2019 10:12:47 PM   
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For information only - attached spreadsheet with assignments of every unit at start and end of every turn until the start of turn 13.

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2x3+ 013 Soviet Supreme Rallying Cry - 12/30/2019 3:15:10 PM   
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T013 Soviet Supreme Rallying Cry

quote:

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Things went good this turn. No advance on the Central Front. Not significant advance on the Northern Front as well.
There was however, some problems down south. I need you to retreat and create a defensive line between Voronezh and Rostov.
...keep doing what you are doing, slowly retreats to the new defensive line.
Southern Commander, get out of encirclement, and retreat, we CANNOT risk losing any more troops to encirclements.

Marshalls. I count on you for your understanding and for your determination. I know, in these hard times, it can be difficult to believe in victory. It can be difficult to wake up in the morning, if you have had any sleep at all. I know it can be hard to look at your wife, and children, and tell them that everything will be okay. Me, more than any men alive in this great country of the USSR, know how difficult it can be to bear the consequences of our actions. Every single day, I put men to death. I understand the feeling of leaving a division behind in order to buy some time for others to retreat. I see the pain in your eyes when you receive orders to abandon the pocketed armies. The sweat and blood of our soldiers, who had to abandon their comrades in Moscow.

But with great sacrifices, and great determination, and hard fighting, comes great victories. Let us not forget, that soon, the German Rats will be frozen in the streets. Our tanks will thread on their skulls, our shells, will fall on their officers and commanders. YES !! MARSHALLS !! I KNOW TIME ARE HARD. I KNOW THE CRUSHING FEELING WE ALL FEEL. BUT LET THIS NOT, BE MY LAST WORDS, LETS MEET AGAIN IN MOSCOW FOR CHRISTMAS !!!

My great comrades in arms, we will ALL share the burden of war together, like true communist fighters !! From now on, THERE WILL BE NOT ONE STEP BACK FROM OUR NEW DEFENSIVE LINES, BUT ALL STEPS FORWARDS !!! COMRADES, TO GREAT VICTORIES AHEAD !!!! KILL THE FASCIST SWINES WITH HONOR AND GLORY !!!! REPULSE THE INVADERS AS DID OUR ANCESTORS !!!





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RE: 2x3+ 013 Soviet Supreme Rallying Cry - 12/30/2019 3:15:51 PM   
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There is certainly someone getting into it!

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2x3+ 013 Soviet South - 12/30/2019 6:14:44 PM   
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T013 Soviet South

Pocket in the south at the start of the turn



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2x3+ 013 Soviet - 12/31/2019 1:53:21 PM   
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(note: a red star on the image marks the hex where the pocket was broken)

quote:

Soviet Commander charged with evacuation
THE IMPORTANCE OF GORKY
Gorky and Yaroslavl were not consider important objectives and supposedly are to be abandon if necessary.
This can NOT and should NOT be done! Gorky is a major Industrial Center... the total cost of evacuation is a whooping 470 816 rail capacity!!
that is 5 turn worth, I repeat 5 turns!! and it implies we don't transport ANY troops what so ever during those 5 turns.
I'm not even mentioning Dzerzhinsky(e), 2 hexes west of Gorky with a LaGG-3 factory, 2 Armaments and 2 Heavy Industry with an evacuation cost of 53056, about half a turns worth of rail cap.

For all intents and purpose, Gorky is the new Soviet Capital, with its Industry and 25 manpower and should be defended as such, AT ALL COST!! I propose a plan for the final defense of Gorky.

Do NOT despair! at the final front lines with low supply, a strong defense can not be overcame, Central commander! gather Zhukov, Rokossovky, Zhakarov, Tolbokhin and any others if you have too!!
and the Volga itself can and should be guarded by weak formations in areas at risk of crossings, a simple tank brigade or AT-brigade is enough for the peaceful areas(they require an actual attack by the enemy).
and at least 1 decent division should Garrison Gorky and Yaroslavl at all times.

WHY a defense in front of the Volga is important.

The last defensive plan called for the eventual retreat behind the Volga, while it is true we have far to few troops for a pro-active defensive, we should try at the very least the form a "outer ring" in Yaroslavl.
1st off, the worst out came, the Germans forming a "Volga line" is the most ideal for the Axis! they have zero reasons to go beyond the Volga, the Germans would just fortify along the river until Blizzard.
that way, only once the Volga river is completely frozen, and no longer effects movement or combat, do the Axis calmly withdraw, while we try at best to catch up.

there is also the point that any redraw must be executed with care. the Industries of Ivanovo, Yaroslavl and Rebisk can NOT be forgotten.
Ivanovo - 3 Armaments, 3 Heavy Industry = 38400 rail cap.
Rebisk - 2 Armaments, 2 Heavy Industry = 25600 rail cap.
Yaroslavl - 3 Armaments, 2 Heavy Industry, 5 Vehicles = 56400! rail cap.

while Ivanovo and Rebisk can be evacuate and are acceptable losses, as long as the Outskirts are defended until the evacuation is complete.
Yaroslavl must stand proud! not only is it quite expensive to evacuate, it has the Volga at its back! an excellent counter to encirclements!!
and the Outer Ring aspect of the plan is Important because it is necessary that our forces are not easily contain, in order to conduct an effective Blizzard offensive of course.

to make the situation more easy for the central front. this area in particular can be lightly defended.

I'm willing to bet that because of the Terrain, this area is likely to be ignored by the enemy, a push here will not harm our situation much.

and to compound why we should adopt this strategy, remember there is still the industry in the South. too much demand for rail capacity.

I will still give priority for Heavy Industry, see to it that we don't fall below 170.


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RE: 2x3+ 013 Soviet - 12/31/2019 2:19:08 PM   
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How the pocket was broken

(Note: hex marked by a red star in previously posted image)




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2x3+ 013+ Soviet Plans - 12/31/2019 5:26:46 PM   
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quote:

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On the 16th October. Reinforcement will be shared between North and South.
On the 23rd and 30th October, Reinforcement will be sent in the Central Front.
On the 6th November, reinforcement will be given to the South
On the 13 November, reinforcement will be given to the North.

The Kursk Commando Army
On the 20th, 27th and 4th December, ALL reinforcement will be given to the Kursk Front. The Kursk front will be somewhat of a Active/Sleeping Commando Army that can be activated whenever I decide. This is a new Front I want to open, with, POSSIBLY, a new human commander. During Active time, the Kursk Front will have for objective to execute pincer movement where an opportunity arise, either going North towards Smolensk, or South towards Kiev. During Sleeping time, it will try to go and capture back Chernigov and Gomel.

This is the reinforcement you will all receive. ALL Moscow Rifle divisions will be sent to Moscow Front. All Leningrad Rifle Division will be sent to Leningrad Front.
Keep in mind Marshalls, that those forces are going to be the one you will have at your disposition for the Winter Offensive I am currently planning. The date of the attack has not yet been decided but during mid October, I will communicate with each of you, the objectives I want to achieve, and you will need to draw me a strategic plan. I may change some details , but if accepted, you will all be expected to achieve those objectives so be realist in your execution. Each Front will need to be in pair with each other, we cant have the central front advancing 50 miles, while North and South advance 10 miles.

I am just letting you guys know whats about to happen in a few months.


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2x3+ 014 Axis Team Protocol Changes - 12/31/2019 6:21:48 PM   
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For information only - attached was sent to the team describing how we would change how we play as a team.

Big changes in how we organise ourselves. Having organised ourselves and built a team, now we are disorganising to get faster. As the team has learnt how each other plays and is communicating so much we are now making things less structured and more self organising. And tasks like initial recon for the whole team are multi-tasked - whoever sees the file for the start of the Axis turn first does it for all. The aim is for the Axis team to finish its turn even faster than it has been doing.

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How to advance airbases - 12/31/2019 6:27:26 PM   
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For information only - graphic describing how to advance airbases.




This can be seen elsewhere as part of guides to air war tactics - see for example http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4612292
But it was originally meant for how the team was changing how it played and based on this turn of this team game!

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2x3+ 014 Axis Kharkov Start of Turn - 12/31/2019 6:30:02 PM   
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T014 Axis Kharkov Start of Turn

Pocket broken!



quote:

Axis South Commander
withdraw on all fronts and first guards

Interdiction gives big clues on where the enemy have run to though...

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RE: 2x3+ 014 Axis Kharkov Start of Turn - 1/1/2020 12:50:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Telemecus

T014 Axis Kharkov Start of Turn

Pocket broken!



quote:

Axis South Commander
withdraw on all fronts and first guards

Interdiction gives big clues on where the enemy have run to though...

They can run but they can't hide (Joe Louis).

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RE: 2x3+ 014 Axis Kharkov Start of Turn - 1/1/2020 1:56:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Telemecus
T014 Axis Kharkov Start of Turn
Pocket broken!


quote:

Axis South Commander
withdraw on all fronts and first guards

Interdiction gives big clues on where the enemy have run to though...

They can run but they can't hide (Joe Louis).


Not with the mountainloads of recon the Axis get!!!

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2x3+ 014 Axis Moscow - 1/1/2020 2:04:00 PM   
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T014 Axis Moscow Start of Turn

A lot of recon but no bombing in their turn, that is a change! We got a fair bit of interdiction of course as they are just moving back - they are usually about 50 or 60 miles back but in some places 100 miles from our front lines. So just a case of infantry chasing behind, there will be few if any combats by infantry in north or centre - only real question is which hexes to flip and how to do motorised.



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2x3+ 014 Axis Leningrad - 1/1/2020 3:15:54 PM   
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T014 Axis Leningrad Start of Turn

They are getting better at air supply, no more leaving the rifle divisions and putting the security in orange. Still an 89 defensive CV in NorthWest Leningrad!




Mannerheim seems to have forgotten to tell the Finnish air force they are not fighting south of the white dotted line though?

For North Commander AAR see http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=4453571

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2x3+ 014 Axis Team Allocations - 1/1/2020 5:29:50 PM   
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For information only - attached team allocations for turn 14

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2x3+ 014 Axis - 1/1/2020 5:31:39 PM   
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2x3+ 014 Axis NW Leningrad Falls - 1/1/2020 7:11:44 PM   
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T014 Axis NW Leningrad Falls

quote:

Axis North Commander
North Leningrad taken



Mannerheim, true to his word, abandons their self-imposed limitations and releases the Finnish army into the depths of Russia.

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2x3+ 014 Axis Finnish Armies Reorganisation - 1/1/2020 8:12:34 PM   
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T014 Axis Finnish Armies Reorganisation


Mannerheim has fielded two Finnish armies, but with the Finnish economy collapsing much of its manpower is now returning home. Nevertheless they have good commanders with support units in their corps and army HQs that are immune to the first blizzard effects. So two German divisions are reassigned to Finnish command this turn with many more to come. Two German corps HQs will also be put under Finnish army command. Indeed Mannerheim's forces will grow to about half an army group and reach far south of Lake Ilmen and eventually have many more Germans than Finns.

quote:

Axis Supreme Commander
Come blizzard we will want all Finnish units (including coastal brigades) at the front not in garrisons (the long front probably means they cannot spare any). And they will need to be in Kannas or Karelian armies to not have a battle penalty - all their corps are already in their armies. This means 48 command points in total in the Finnish command.

I count after withdrawals in the next few turns Karelian army will have 12 command points and Kannas army 11 command points used. In addition there are five command points of Finnish units that can be assigned from direct assignment now in Finnish High Command. This makes a total of 28. So there is space for 20 command points more- which could be up to 10 German infantry divisions or less if some units in the Finnish HQs need to break down to regiments. 3 of these divisions could be arrivals which can be assigned there at no points cost.

During the blizzard the Finns should have 2 army HQs and 3 corps HQs. The ratings of the army leaders are so good that units can actually have better ratings check probabilities directly assigned to armies so can be used for that (and in-spite of the army direct penalty). 4 of these HQs should be enough to keep all units up to the no move line in HQ range. The fifth HQ ideally should be one with their best leader right at the bottom edge of the no move line with German units directly assigned to it south of the line - so that Finnish SUs can be committed to help German units south of the line. If there are Finnish units to spare these can be left on reserve at the bottom of the no move line to reserve activate over it too.

If this is the case then there is no need to assign a German corps to Finnish armies. If the Finnish HQs cannot be in HQ range of all units then you may want to reassign XXVII to a Finnish army (as a corps from 9th army needs to be reassigned anyway). Or if you can afford the railing cost assign another 9th army corps as then you can reassign the divisions which come with the corps for free.

However using all Finnish corps and army HQs means there will not be one spare for auto rail repair with their auto construction (like the RHGs for Germany).


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2x3+ 014 Axis Zhitomir Garrison - 1/1/2020 8:20:48 PM   
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T014 Axis Zhitomir Garrison


With so many cities being conquered in the North every German security unit is needed north of the southern allied no move line to garrison them - otherwise first rate frontline German combat units have to do it instead. At least south of the line southern allied combat units can be used. Yet the second regiment of 444 security division has refused to moved from Zhitomir for many turns now - they must like it there

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2x3+ 014 Strategic Bombing - 1/1/2020 8:43:36 PM   
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T014 Axis Strategic Bombing Ends
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Kazan already has fighters protecting it :smiley:



With all the major industrial centres now having fighter cover any possibility of strategic bombing to build damage levels has ended. At best we can only try to keep any existing significant damage levels topped up or slow their repair. But at least we have the satisfaction that many of their fighters are far to the rear.

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2x3+ 014 Axis Air War - 1/1/2020 9:08:40 PM   
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With the Soviet side no longer even trying to bomb our troops and their troops being so far back the air war is getting cooler. The lack of engagement is an opportunity to send many level bombers to national reserve. We do not lose many stukas - because we do not have many to lose. The stuka production pool is still zero! The stukas we do have are sent to ground support the south - any excuse to keep them away from centre!

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2x3+ 014 Axis Retrospective - 1/2/2020 11:19:58 AM   
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This is the first turn we have not destroyed over 200K manpower


I have deliberately not been making any judgments on game play in this AAR - just let the pictures do the talking and quote the other players themselves. But it is fair to quote the other players reflections that Soviet game play is getting smarter. Reading back on the last Soviet turn I can see a lot of real thought is going into working out what the choices they have to make are. So even though we are still taking ground and capturing industry, now it is the ground and industry our opponents have planned to cede to us.

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2x3+ 014 Field Communications Security - 1/2/2020 11:21:23 AM   
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T014 Axis Field Communications Security

Lapses in German field communications security have been identified and will need to be rapidly rectified.


Names and faces have been redacted to protect the innocent. And the horribly guilty.

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RE: 2x3+ 014 Field Communications Security - 1/2/2020 12:05:16 PM   
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T014 Axis Field Communications Security

Lapses in German field communications security have been identified and will need to be rapidly rectified.


Names and faces have been redacted to protect the innocent. And the horribly guilty.






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RE: 2x3+ 014 Field Communications Security - 1/2/2020 12:15:08 PM   
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I reckon this bank robber from Tblisi?




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