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RE: Darkside Newbie Wants Hints - 1/25/2018 7:57:25 PM

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really want a George/Jack for the IJAAF.

FYI. These are naval aircraft.

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RE: Darkside Newbie Wants Hints - 1/25/2018 8:09:33 PM

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Escorting anything, from the Japanese perspective, is a really bad deal. If you must do it send your worst crap, not your best. A good way to avoiding getting good pilots killed escorting bombers is don't send the bombers. Establish air superiority if you can and maintain it. If the bombers don't have a reasonable chance to sink any ships it's a double tragedy to send fighter pilots with them. If you don't like an enemy airfield shell it with BBs, that's all they're good for anyway.

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RE: Darkside Newbie Wants Hints - 1/25/2018 10:46:24 PM

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That is a well said and viable point!

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RE: Darkside Newbie Wants Hints - 1/26/2018 9:27:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Escorting anything, from the Japanese perspective, is a really bad deal. If you must do it send your worst crap, not your best. A good way to avoiding getting good pilots killed escorting bombers is don't send the bombers. Establish air superiority if you can and maintain it. If the bombers don't have a reasonable chance to sink any ships it's a double tragedy to send fighter pilots with them. If you don't like an enemy airfield shell it with BBs, that's all they're good for anyway.

Absolutely!

To add to the last line: Never send like ships to a surface naval engagement. Always have the largest ships. Your BBs against his cruisers, etc. That means, never engage his BBs in a surface action. Even if you wipe him out, you'll take significant damage that you can not afford. Enemy BBs are meant to be taken out by your aerial and sub torpedoes.

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RE: Darkside Newbie Wants Hints - 1/26/2018 12:41:38 PM

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And always have the biggest aircraft carriers with the biggest planes and way, way more of them!

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RE: Darkside Newbie Wants Hints - 1/26/2018 4:17:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Escorting anything, from the Japanese perspective, is a really bad deal. If you must do it send your worst crap, not your best. A good way to avoiding getting good pilots killed escorting bombers is don't send the bombers. Establish air superiority if you can and maintain it. If the bombers don't have a reasonable chance to sink any ships it's a double tragedy to send fighter pilots with them. If you don't like an enemy airfield shell it with BBs, that's all they're good for anyway.

I disagree.

Weaker escorts with worse pilots on your part just means more of your strike package gets shot down before it even has a chance to do anything because its escort package crumbles faster. It is better to get more bombers through and make the sacrifice of your pilots and planes worthwhile. Not to mention they will perform better against enemy CAP.

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RE: Darkside Newbie Wants Hints - 1/27/2018 6:07:14 AM

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The only situation you can refer to as "a crash" (which it is not) is the sudden lack of supplies on HI in the first months of 42 with all the expansions and shipping out. Well, you can always turn off some repairs and wait for the industry to produce more supplies (AFAIR ~20k a turn on Home Islands) to fill the hole. Then turn on repairs and proceed.

This.

This is the one thing that gave me untold headaches until I learned to not overdo it. If you see your supply piles in the HI dwindle, stop factory conversions for a bit, and then restart them one by one, in priority order. If you learn to do this right, the rest is a lot easier.

Kitikami you make valid points.

Mistakes I've made have left lasting impressions. I certainly managed to collapse the IJ economy more than once by either trying to expand too much too early leaving me short on supplies, or making some factories too big, leaving the HI pools too small at end game when your opponent starts to starve you of resources. These days I take a more cautious approach, expanding a few things at a time and reassessing my situation.

So basically the lesson I learned is 'Don't produce more than you need in the early game.' Having a pool of 3,000 A6M2s doesn't help anything when they are obsolete cannon fodder in 1945, for example.

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RE: Darkside Newbie Wants Hints - 1/27/2018 6:15:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Escorting anything, from the Japanese perspective, is a really bad deal. If you must do it send your worst crap, not your best. A good way to avoiding getting good pilots killed escorting bombers is don't send the bombers. Establish air superiority if you can and maintain it. If the bombers don't have a reasonable chance to sink any ships it's a double tragedy to send fighter pilots with them. If you don't like an enemy airfield shell it with BBs, that's all they're good for anyway.

I disagree.

Weaker escorts with worse pilots on your part just means more of your strike package gets shot down before it even has a chance to do anything because its escort package crumbles faster. It is better to get more bombers through and make the sacrifice of your pilots and planes worthwhile. Not to mention they will perform better against enemy CAP.

I've also found that choking back the range of your bombers so they don't launch when the enemy is as far away from the base helps as well. But experiences may vary.

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