Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: spence

Pretty sure that:

a) the lead time for a new Battleship exceeded the length of time that the US was engaged in WW2 thus there were never any plans for a USS Arizona or USS Oklahoma (unless they were part of the Montana class which were never built - any starts were cancelled anyways.

b) the BB was superceded as the measure of naval power during WW2

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ORIGINAL: spence

To be specific if not already clear:

An Essex class carrier was built and entered service during WW2 that was named the USS Hornet replacing that name only in the whatever list the US Navy keeps for its commissioned ships (A Yorktown class carrier USS Hornet was sunk at the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands). It not an extra ship; only a renaming of an existing ship. It already had a name as it sat on the building ways but whatever name it had was consigned to the dustbin of history or applied to a completely different ship long after WW2.

In the game the ships that were already built and renamed for their sunken predecessors are identified by the addition of roman numeral II following their name.

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ORIGINAL: Strike Eagle

Alright, thanks for the responses, they helped clear some things up.

• USN CV respawns to USN CV
  
• USN cruisers respawn to USN cruiser
  
• RAN CA respawns to USN CA
  
• IJN SSX respawns to IJN SSX Type D Koryu

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I visited the USS Hornet in Alameda (where they keep the nuclear wessels /Checkov) and the tour mentioned that the keel still had the original name (USS Kearsarge).

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Ships which appear in the Ship Reinforcement List with a "xxxxII" in their name are neither a respawned nor replaced ship. These are historical ships which whilst still under construction, were renamed in honour of a sunk ship.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

As always, correct terminology usage clarifies game rules.

There are two different processes involved here; one is respawning ships lost historically, the other is replacing ships lost in the game.

1.  Respawning is only available if the scenario designer has enabled it in the editor.  There is no respawning in any of the official scenarios.  A respawned ship uses a different slot number than the original named sunk ship.

2.  Replacing is always on for those ship types which meet the criteria.  It is not possible to turn off this feature.  A replaced ship uses the same slot number used by the original sunk ship.

3.  Only the following ship types will respawn:

• USN CV respawns to USN CV
  
• USN cruisers respawn to USN cruiser
  
• RAN CA respawns to USN CA
  
• IJN SSX respawns to IJN SSX Type D Koryu

No other ship types of any nationality will respawn.

4.  The larger ship types respawn about 15 months after being sunk.  They respawn in the then current ship class (eg Wasp will respawn as an Essex class CV if it reappears when the Essex class has come into play) and carry the same name (ie no Yorktown II).

5.  Only barge type ships will be replaced if sunk.  These ships when sunk do not appear on the Sunk Ship List.  The replacement ship will become available 60 days after the sinking.

Ships which appear in the Ship Reinforcement List with a "Xxxx II" in their name are neither a respawned nor replaced ship.  These are historical ships which whilst still under construction, were renamed in honour of a sunk ship.  There are therefore carriers, cruisers, destroyers, and submarines in the game which have the "Xxxx II" name.  These ships will arrive irrespective of whether the original named ship remains afloat in the game.  They can only be given a new unique name whilst they remain in the Ship Reinforcement List.  Once they arrive on map they will retain their "Xxxx II" name forever.

The respawning feature of classical WITP was greatly disliked by the AE devs.  It penalised good Allied players and rewarded poor Allied players.  The use of the replacing feature for barge types remove the problem of finding all those additional ship slots necessary to accommodate the historical number of barge types produced.

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

If I may further clarify Alfred under #5.;

In a scenario which does not have respawn enabled (like the official scenarios), the player may change the name of a vessel in the Ship Reinforcement List if the ship has a suffix of II, III, or IV. This change must be done before it arrives.

If respawn is enabled, reinforcement ship names may not be changed.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

As always, correct terminology usage clarifies game rules.

There are two different processes involved here; one is respawning ships lost historically, the other is replacing ships lost in the game.

1.  Respawning is only available if the scenario designer has enabled it in the editor.  There is no respawning in any of the official scenarios.  A respawned ship uses a different slot number than the original named sunk ship.

2.  Replacing is always on for those ship types which meet the criteria.  It is not possible to turn off this feature.  A replaced ship uses the same slot number used by the original sunk ship.

3.  Only the following ship types will respawn:

• USN CV respawns to USN CV
  
• USN cruisers respawn to USN cruiser
  
• RAN CA respawns to USN CA
  
• IJN SSX respawns to IJN SSX Type D Koryu

No other ship types of any nationality will respawn.

4.  The larger ship types respawn about 15 months after being sunk.  They respawn in the then current ship class (eg Wasp will respawn as an Essex class CV if it reappears when the Essex class has come into play) and carry the same name (ie no Yorktown II).

5.  Only barge type ships will be replaced if sunk.  These ships when sunk do not appear on the Sunk Ship List.  The replacement ship will become available 60 days after the sinking.

Ships which appear in the Ship Reinforcement List with a "Xxxx II" in their name are neither a respawned nor replaced ship.  These are historical ships which whilst still under construction, were renamed in honour of a sunk ship.  There are therefore carriers, cruisers, destroyers, and submarines in the game which have the "Xxxx II" name.  These ships will arrive irrespective of whether the original named ship remains afloat in the game.  They can only be given a new unique name whilst they remain in the Ship Reinforcement List.  Once they arrive on map they will retain their "Xxxx II" name forever.

The respawning feature of classical WITP was greatly disliked by the AE devs.  It penalised good Allied players and rewarded poor Allied players.  The use of the replacing feature for barge types remove the problem of finding all those additional ship slots necessary to accommodate the historical number of barge types produced.

Alfred