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RE: July 8 1942 - 11/30/2018 6:49:23 PM

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So in previous games/PBEMs my common altitude setting for strike packages was 10k, but I was convinced in preparation for this game (through reading other threads here on the forums) that 13k was a good setting for putting your airgroups at. So my strike package usually has the fighters and bombers all set to 13k. Below you can see the settings and pilots' training levels. Perhaps I should go back to my old 10k setting?

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RE: July 8 1942 - 11/30/2018 7:22:25 PM

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SBD groups - I see decent, but not great experience posted here. One thing I DO see is your pilots are almost all rookies without any missions. I've seen good LB groups need some missions done before they can hit the AF.

Without the opportunity to attack enemy ships, I would think you need to max out on 3 different skills to raise the experience levels up (NavB, NavS, GrdB). From my experience you need two high experience skills like NavB and NavS for DBs. If you cannot use them someplace to get actual experience, then build up a third skill.

For fighters, I do both Air and Straf to high 60s. Then, rest until Morale in near 99. Set for CAP at 80 or 90% with 10 to 20% Rest. Their overall experience levels will go up.

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July 15 1942 - 11/30/2018 7:37:08 PM

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July 15 1942

Carriers appear off Midway. I had a transport convoy heading there. Luckily, it's unspotted and will full speed east the next turn. In India, the 5th Division holds and we will try one more attack before retiring tomorrow. At Viza, most of my tank units get out, but the tank brigade is a little bit slower and remains behind to be attacked by John's considerable forces (suddenly 900 AV there). All units will retire to retrench behind defenses. At Asanol, John does another bombardment and suffers considerable casualties for doing do. In Australia, Australian tanks further push back the beleaguered Japanese brigade.

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Ground combat at Vizagapatnam (42,37)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 32689 troops, 286 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 990

Defending force 2230 troops, 18 guns, 220 vehicles, Assault Value = 120

Japanese adjusted assault: 835

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 835 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
264 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
824 casualties reported
Squads: 43 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 42 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 24 (24 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 178 (116 destroyed, 62 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
14th Naval Guard Unit
18th Naval Guard Unit
48th Division
16th Division
79th Garrison Battalion
49th JNAF AF Unit
22nd Air Flotilla
23rd AA Regiment
21st Fld AA Gun Co

Defending units:
50th Tank Brigade

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Ground combat at Asansol (53,34)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 52046 troops, 442 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 1603

Defending force 45345 troops, 664 guns, 452 vehicles, Assault Value = 1317

Japanese ground losses:
1412 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 79 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 15 (3 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
56th Division
18th Division
67th Division
14th Army

Defending units:
46th Indian Brigade
16th Australian Brigade
Sarawak Force
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment
44th Indian Brigade
87th Mountain Regiment
138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
40th Infantry Division
36th Indian Brigade
77th Heavy AA Regiment
222 Group Base Force
6th Medium Regiment
2nd Peshawar Base Force
2/2nd Hy AA Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd ISF Base Force

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Ground combat at 54,32 (near Asansol)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28165 troops, 483 guns, 678 vehicles, Assault Value = 855

Defending force 11506 troops, 113 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 208

Allied adjusted assault: 49

Japanese adjusted defense: 65

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)
Attacker: disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1437 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 102 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
233 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 39 (36 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
7th Armoured Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
193rd Tank Battalion
7th Australian Division
70th British Division

Defending units:
5th Division

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Ground combat at 49,132 (near Carnarvon)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1116 troops, 0 guns, 74 vehicles, Assault Value = 47

Defending force 1637 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Allied adjusted assault: 48

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 48 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
567 casualties reported
Squads: 34 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/7th Armoured Regiment

Defending units:
65th Bde /1

My carriers do not see any action next turn. I thought John might move up considering the torpedo hits I took, but his air force was somewhat devastated. He moves back and his CVs appear to be heading for Darwin. I have a few subs nearby that will try to hit them next turn. My carriers will refuel and then begin the long Journey to Pearl after doing some refits at Sydney.

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RE: July 15 1942 - 11/30/2018 7:58:03 PM

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I think my chances are pretty good north of Calcutta. Asanol seems to hold strong and it will be difficult for John to take it. Jamshedpur is a jungle hex approaching level 5 forts. Ranchi is approaching level 4 forts. 2 of John's divisions are in rough shape, He has 4 on Asanol and looks like 2 or 3 around Jamshedpur. 2 Divisions have been forced to head to Viza. I'm happy at the moment to hold on for now.

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RE: July 15 1942 - 11/30/2018 7:58:52 PM

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Posted this in John's AAR, but want you to have info.

Let me bring the facts from Editor on the inability to penetrate the G.6 CVL with some bombs.

Belt - Deck - Tower:

G.6 CLV = 140 - 60 - 100
G.6 CV (conversion) = 140 - 60 - 25

Shokaku CVs = 165 - 60 - 25

Akagi Class = 250 - 57 - 25

Indomitable Class = 112 - 75 - 0

Lexington Class = 128 - 50 -50

Yorktown = 100 - 37 - 100

Bombs:
1000 lb SAP = 117mm (penetration)
1000 lb GP = 58mm
500 lb GP = 37mm

250kg SAP = 71mm
800kg SAP = 174mm

*Note*
When you look at the armored deck value (75) of the Brit CV you see the 250kg (71) is not enough to penetrate.

The 1000 lb GP value is 58, so unable to penetrate the deck of the G.6 (60).

Am, I wrong here?

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RE: July 15 1942 - 11/30/2018 8:02:12 PM

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From my experience in the previous battles, no GP bombs penetrated the G.6's and even SAP bombs had a number fail to penetrate.

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RE: July 14 1942 - 11/30/2018 8:25:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: apbarog

Weather can have a major effect on bombing accuracy. Your SBD attacks were in moderate and heavy rain. This opinion is from many examples in my games, not from something I've read in rules or patch notes.

I think the answer is in the fighter numbers. John had 75 aircraft on CAP (including FPs) while the escorting fighters were only 50. That left a third of his fighters free to harass the SBDs, which severely degrades their accuracy.

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July 16 1942 - 12/1/2018 3:56:39 PM

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@BBfanboy I've had similar battles in the past where his CAP slightly outnumbered my escorts, resulting in my bombers taking attrition. However, in those battles their results nonetheless far better than what has been shown so far. Of course, not as good as they would be if I had sufficient CAP. I'd like to devote more to escort duty in my settings, but last CV battle I set it to 30% CAP vs escort duty and not only did he manage to get through and deliver two torpedoes, but I didn't have sufficient escorts as you say. This, against 2 semi-CVs, 2 CVEs, and a CVL. For now, the CVs will go home and train, train, train (and refit).

July 16 1942

In India, the battle rages. In many air battles, we come off slighly better in sweeps over Vizagaatnam and in CAP defense covering the 70th British ID and 7th Australian ID. The situation seems stable for now in the fortified hexes around Calcutta. Asanol holds strong, as do Ranchi and Jamshedpur with their decent forts and jungle defensive modifiers. John is massive AVs and a what appears to be 2-3 divisions around Ranchi and Jamshedpur, but they will have their work cut out for them. Asanol will also be a decently tough nut to crack, but sigint states that John is bringing heavy artillery to Calcutta.

The real news is up north where the 70th British ID and 7th Australian ID have done wonders, causing decent attrition to the Japanese 4th and 5th IDs, which will need to retreat and recover. This relieves pressure in my northern flanks and will allow me the breathing room to divert forces to reinforce my other flanks at Jamshedpur and Ranchi. Meanwhile, the 2nd British Division has arrived at Karachi and will join the fray shortly.

At Vizagapatnam, my forces are either strat moving this turn or will strat move the next turn and will move to Bezwada, which has 3 forts and the advantage of not being a coastal hex and therefore not subject to bombardment. John seems to be moving a division that direction, but it's not clear just how far it will go.

Elsewhere, my carriers are safe and out of sight south of Perth; they will make their way to Sydney. My other carriers that were previously in the South Pacific are safe and on their way to Pearl Harbor, avoiding lines of subs that John has setup to catch them. CV Indomitable is at Pearl. I'm looking forward to upgrading my carriers as all the action they've been called to conduct has come at the expense of timely upgrades. I'm also very much looking forward to re-organizing my fleets, which will happen when the carriers currently in Australia reach Pearl.

In the mean time, we will focus mostly on getting our supply convoys up to a better speed than they've been at.

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RE: July 16 1942 - 12/1/2018 4:28:55 PM

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I'm finally starting to cause attrition on John's subs. Float planes are getting delivered to the majority of my bases along my shipping hubs. ASW is in place, particularly heavy at Karachi where 4-5 roving ASW task forces have been highly successful against 4-5 Japanese subs loitering around there.

Over the past month, the VP ratio has fallen from 2.57:1 to 2.46:1. Not great, but should be sufficient to avoid auto-victory if we continue in this manner.

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RE: July 16 1942 - 12/2/2018 1:09:14 AM

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When your ASW TFs damage a sub, do you send them searching the retreat path for the sub or keep them around the base they are protecting? Trying to weigh the benefits of follow-up vs. the risk of leaving the base approaches unpatrolled.

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RE: July 16 1942 - 12/2/2018 3:17:06 AM

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I don't bother following up on a potential retreat path for a few reasons: 1) it's burdensome to reset orders 2) it's hard to gauge where a retreat path might be sometimes 3)LBA ASW can usually do the trick for follow-up attacks (especially if the sub was hit during the night phase).

So I don't think the gain from doing that outweighs the additional input in orders required. My ASW forces stay at their assigned hubs and that is where they are most useful. Heavily damaged subs often sink anyways if they are far away from home.

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July 17-18 1942 - 12/3/2018 6:08:10 PM

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July 17-18 1942

Not a very interesting few days except for this heart burner below at Coconada. They were set to strat move (strat mode fully done last turn) but I didn't realize the moving for strat happens after the combat phase, so they suffered a big malus in the attack. Is this the same for other types of movement? Because I've had the enemy move out of hex, denying my units the opportunity to attack before. Good news is they should be able to move away without much issue (my airforce will be sweeping and bombing John's chasing units). Moreover, a lot of the destroyed AFVs were good tanks, but a about half were also improvised AFV's, so they can only improve up from here!

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Ground combat at Cocanada (41,37)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27695 troops, 245 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 875

Defending force 2729 troops, 4 guns, 471 vehicles, Assault Value = 156

Japanese adjusted assault: 579

Allied adjusted defense: 29

Japanese assault odds: 19 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cocanada !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 200 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 472 (467 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
16th Division
48th Division

Defending units:
50th Tank Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
42nd Cavalry Regiment
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
3rd Cavalry Regiment

However, next turn should at least see me some recompense, as I am set to shock attack (British division crossing stream) and deliberate attack with troops in hex next turn, so hopefully John loses some squads and guns tomorrow. The Japanese units in this hex only started moving away this turn. Furthermore, I've caught up to the brigade north of Carnarvon again and will attack tomorrow.

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Ground combat at 55,32 (near Patna)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3530 troops, 77 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 114

Defending force 1284 troops, 45 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
159th Mot Infantry Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
1st Para Assault/B Division
8th RF Gun Battalion

Would post more, but I'm a bit busy right now with only some downtime between meetings.

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RE: July 17-18 1942 - 12/3/2018 6:20:37 PM

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I'm not sure I fully understand the situation, but if your guys were in Strat mode, they couldn't leave the hex.

Your units can Strat mode in to a friendly base in a hex that includes enemy units, but they can't Strat mode out of that contested hex.

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RE: July 17-18 1942 - 12/3/2018 6:25:37 PM

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Ah, that makes sense. They had been going to strat mode and were set to move last turn, but I guess being contested cancelled that. Something new learned. Good news is about half the units are still in strat mode a hex over and can be stratted to wherever I want them.

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RE: July 17-18 1942 - 12/3/2018 8:14:05 PM

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My carriers are almost home. Lexington is about 2 days out fro Pearl. The others 3-4 days east of Palmyra. They have been at sea almost continuously for a month, picking up wear and tear. They will go into Pearl for extended refit and upgrades. Lexington and Saratoga will get their 6/42 upgrades. Wasp and Enterprise will get their 7/42 upgrades.

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July 19 1942 - 12/4/2018 12:20:35 AM

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July 19 1942

In India and Australia, I get some recompense for yesterday with my ground combat today, which is effective if not spectacular. However, this might prove short-lived as two AFV units did not move (I might have forgotten to set their destination) last turn and it will be a race to see if they escape as John's units might shock attack instantly by crossing the river from Cocanada. 3 tank units do safely strat away, however.

I'm not sure what John's strategy is in India. He seems to be concentrating around Asanol, Jamshedpur, and Ranchi with almost all his forces, but he seems to have no effective concentration of forces anywhere. He has even stopped bombing my airfields (Asanol is now 65% of the way to level 5 forts). One division seems to have moved between Asanol and Ranchi, 3-4 divisions remain at Asanol, a smattering of units and 2 divisions occupy the hex between all three bases, and 3-4 tank units are between Jamshedpur and Ranchi. Meanwhile, his 2 divisions at Cocanada continue to meander away towards unimportant areas. Furthermore, north of Calcutta two of the IJA divisions (the 4th and 5th) have been severely degraded and have retreated south.

With 1300 AV versus ~1500 IJA AV at Asanol with level 4, almost level 5 forts, I don't see what John's plan is. He's certainly not taking Asanol with that. With the forces he doesn't have at Asanol, I don't see how he can take Jamshedpur or Ranchi, which together have ~2000 AV which an additional ~500-1000 AV outside of that. If he tries to push in my center towards Raipur, not only does Raipiur have ~650 AV and 4 forts, I can quickly strat move reinforcements in.

Madras has level 6 forts, Bombay has level 5 forts (going to 6), and Karachi has level 4 forts (going to 5), all with decent AV garrisons, so none can be easily taken in a surprise move. My defensive line north of Calcutta is in decent shape, Bezwada on the way to Madras has 600 AV and level 3 forts (and isn't subject to naval bombardment). Either I'm missing something, or John isn't concentrating his forces effectively to push my defenses back. He could try to paradrop behind me, but that is risky and those forces more likely to be destroyed. I have stationed small amounts of AV at rear bases.

Do you agree? If you were John, what would you do?

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Ground combat at 55,32 (near Patna)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 18050 troops, 339 guns, 310 vehicles, Assault Value = 523

Defending force 1288 troops, 44 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 58

Allied adjusted assault: 103

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 34 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
544 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 39 (11 destroyed, 28 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
280 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
159th Mot Infantry Regiment
70th British Division
85th British AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
1st Para Assault/B Division
8th RF Gun Battalion

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Ground combat at 49,131 (near Carnarvon)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 821 troops, 0 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Defending force 1110 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied adjusted assault: 3

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
310 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/7th Armoured Regiment

Defending units:
65th Bde /1

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RE: July 19 1942 - 12/4/2018 1:23:11 PM

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quote:

Do you agree? If you were John, what would you do?

A deep KB raid on the transport lanes to Karachi. Banzai! Banzai!!

More seriously, your defense in India looks pretty good IMHO. I don't know if he could perhaps overwhelm Madras if he shifted some big forces down to there. But he's already taken all the easy stuff; anything else will be very difficult or impossible.

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RE: July 19 1942 - 12/4/2018 2:15:45 PM

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His objective could be to destroy Commonwealth units. Or he may have lost sight of his objective, supposing he had a clearly defined one at one time. He is an advocate of the "when in doubt, do something" school of thought, trusting to boldness, luck, and improvisation to steer him. Stonewall Jackson did some things that way.

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July 20 1942 - 12/4/2018 6:00:57 PM

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July 20 1942

India

Today is a decently good day for me in India as John does a series of air raids where his forces come off worse than my own, with the particular prize being a large number of a the new Japanese Helen bombers shot down over the skies of Ranchi and Raipur. Furthermore, my two tank units west of Cocanada luckily are able to move a hex during the night (I was really stupid to try strat moving them earlier) and escape destruction from John's two divisions that he has there.

John's quote for the day:

quote:

About the time I THINK I am gaining a firm upper hand in the air over India, I get a turn like this.

As for reading the tea leaves and what the future portends. Sigint shows Japanese heavy artillery planning for an attack on Jamshedpur. John has a number of weak unit forces around it and I currently have ~1840 AV at Ranchi that can redeploy down to quickly degrade some of his units north of his concentrations in the center between my three defensive bases and at Asanol. John appears to be moving a division north (and might or might not already have moved some tank units up in that direction). He might be trying to bypass my defenses to get at the bases behind me, such as at Benares. I am setting a lot of bombers and recon units to recon various hexes and will send some scout AFV units to look around. Regardless, I'm not too worried. Quick strat movement allows me to quickly redeploy forces.

In the next couple of days, I might redploy a division or two north. Given the recon showing units moving north the last couple of days (such as the division currently west of Jamshedpur), as well as the series of air attacks on Raipur today, that might be where John is headed.

Tomorrow, I bombard Asanol to see what is there, and will show forces moving down from Ranchi to scare John. Let's see how he reacts. Asanol is 65% to 5 forts, Jamshedpur is 56%. Keep in mind, if John moves north, a lot of my rear northern bases have at least level 3 forts.

Australia

The mini-KB from before is moving around near Carnarvon. John bombarded Carnarvon again today. Perhaps he'll try and take it with a division soon coming from Darwin.

quote:

Night Naval bombardment of Carnarvon at 49,133

Japanese Ships
BC Kirishima
BC Hiei

Allied ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (6 destroyed, 7 disabled)

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BC Kirishima
BC Kirishima firing at 2/5th Armoured Regiment
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BC Hiei
BC Hiei firing at 2/9th Armoured Regiment

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RE: July 20 1942 - 12/4/2018 6:10:59 PM

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Removed air battles because they make things way too cluttered.

Sigint for the Day

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23rd Ind.AA Gun Co is located at Hiroshima/Kure(106,58).
4th Ind Com Engineer Regiment is located at Jaffna(31,45).
Radio transmissions detected at Tabiteuea (137,134).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at 47,77.
54th Division is located at Kobe(108,59).
Radio transmissions detected at Yenki (110,44).
Radio transmissions detected at Hakodate (119,53).
3rd/C Division is located at Hengyang(80,53).
Radio transmissions detected at Kanoya (102,61).
33rd JAAF AF Coy is located at Chittagong(55,41).
28th JNAF AF Unit is located at Oita(104,59).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Truk (112,108).
Radio transmissions detected at Nagoya (111,60).
3/5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion is planning for an attack on Jamshedpur.
Radio transmissions detected at 74,52.
Radio transmissions detected at Baybay (81,86).
Radio transmissions detected at Cotabato (78,90).
9th Port Unit is located at Miri(64,87).
301st Ind.Infantry Battalion is located at Shikuka(126,43).
China Expeditionary Army is located at Hankow(85,50).
2nd RTA/B Division is located at Magwe(57,47).
62nd JAAF AF Bn is located at Diamond Harbour(52,38).
Radio transmissions detected at Calcutta (52,37).
23rd Fld AA Gun Co is located at Niigata(114,57).

Oh and then there is this baby from my ops report. Already knew for the most part, but nice to see it confirmed.

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CVL Shoho is reported to have been sunk near Efate on Jun 29, 1942

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RE: July 20 1942 - 12/4/2018 6:45:42 PM

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Seeing things like this is my favorite part of a good day in the air (only a partial list)...

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2LT Flowers H. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 4
2LT Blair H. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 5
2LT Blair H. of AVG/2nd Sqn attains ace status!!
1LT Heath R. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 2
2LT Irwin O. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 2
2LT French K. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 3
2LT French K. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 4
2LT Bryan T. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 2
2LT Morrison G. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 4
2LT Morrison G. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 5
2LT Morrison G. of AVG/2nd Sqn attains ace status!!
2LT Ward M. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 3
2LT Peck A. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 2
2LT Simo R. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 3
1LT Arnold M. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 2
1LT Arnold M. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 3
2LT Simo R. of AVG/2nd Sqn is credited with kill number 4
1LT Draper V. of 8th FG/36th FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Morrison L. of 8th FG/36th FS is credited with kill number 3
2LT Morrison L. of 8th FG/36th FS is credited with kill number 4
FO Welch J. of VMF-121 is credited with kill number 3
FO Henderson N. of VMF-121 is credited with kill number 3
FO Welch J. of VMF-121 is credited with kill number 4
Japanese Fighter sighted over Madras
Japanese Aircraft sighted over Umnak Island
2LT Brors V. of 12th FS is credited with kill number 5
2LT Brors V. of 12th FS attains ace status!!
1LT Daniels L. of 12th FS is credited with kill number 2

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RE: July 20 1942 - 12/4/2018 7:27:11 PM

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Questions for the peanut gallery... but is that actual confirmation of the ship being sunk?

I always thought you needed the report needed to say "confirmed" to "know" for sure... as in "CVL Shoho confirmed sunk at xxx,yyy" or something.

I think the Shoho is sunk, don't get me wrong... just asking for clarification so there is no surprise if the message "previous report of sunk ship incorrect, ship is in service at xxxx" appears at a future date.

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RE: July 20 1942 - 12/4/2018 8:02:26 PM

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I'm pretty sure the line quoted by Anachro is confirmation of a sinking of that type of ship, though the name might be botched.

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RE: July 20 1942 - 12/4/2018 9:29:53 PM

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I believe the "reported" message can be proven incorrect if the ship makes a reappearance or simply over time. A "confirmed sunk" message is a definitive, however. I knew something sunk at Efate, or was like 99% sure, but my intelligence was saying it was the CVL Ryukaku. This confirms it in my mind to be the Shoho.

Historically, the Shoho was sunk on May 7th, 1942. We were late in sinking it by a little under 2 months. The Zuiho, also sunk, was historically sunk in 1944. Of course, KB was sunk in June 42 and it's already late July...

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RE: July 20 1942 - 12/4/2018 9:53:11 PM

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Ships reported sunk in the Operations Report list are certain.

Ships reported sunk in the Ships Sunk part of the Intel Screen are not certain until confirmed via Ops Report, though sometimes you can deduce with certainty (sinking sounds immediately following strong hits; keeping track of the Ships Sunk points; etc.)

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RE: July 20 1942 - 12/4/2018 10:02:51 PM

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Canoerebel, you are right. For some reason I remember having seen such messages in the operations report only to have a "previous reports are incorrect" message later on, but I guess this is incorrect. I also thought there were "confirmed sunk" messages in the report in addition to "reported sunk," but going back through my logs, all the messages use the "reported" terminology. So Shoho confirmed sunk, I guess.

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July 21 1942 - 12/5/2018 1:49:07 AM

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July 21 1942

Will post more info with the next update (John says he's willing to do another tonight, we'll see), but my fighters sweep Calcutta today and do a decent job (~40 Japanese fighters shot down in exchange for ~20). John's forces aren't pursuing my tanks at Cocanada, so that front might be relieved of pressure. Meanwhile, the division south of Ranchi has moved back to Asanol and appears to be moving east.

The important thing here is that one division has definitely moved north and if I had any sort of supposition, it would be that there are more Japanese units in the unknown hexes between Raipur and Ranchi. Benares is 9/10 DL, Raipur is 9/10 DL, Patna is 5/10 DL, Ranchi is 9/10 DL. I have 3 British Divisions all on strat mode that can be quickly moved anywhere... Scout AFV units continue to move around.

The 18th British Division is heading to Raipur, the 2nd British Division to Bezwada (might move elsewhere soon), the 70th British division is heading to Patna to switch to strat movement and will head to Benares. The 7th Australian Division, 41st US Infantry Division, and tank units are scouting out and moving towards Japanese units north of Jamshedpur (their orders can change depending on recon tomorrow).

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RE: July 21 1942 - 12/5/2018 12:19:06 PM

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Is the 70th Brit Division "complete" in this Mod? In stock, of course, it's just a fragment of the division (70 AV?) and never fleshes out, if memory serves.

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RE: July 21 1942 - 12/5/2018 2:44:51 PM

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From what I can tell, the 70th Division in this mod is a full division (400+ AV). It is fully fleshed out.

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RE: July 21 1942 - 12/5/2018 2:51:03 PM

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This may be far more than you want to know, but I think 70th Div. in stock is the "HQ" component, with the other components (infantry, artillery) on map but using names that don't identify them as part of that division, and the player is unable to combine them to flesh out the division. So, in stock, 70th Div. is a really weird unit of about 70 (or 40?) AV that a lot of players simply park at Karachi to bolster the garrison a bit, guarding against a worst case scenario.

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