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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 1:29:24 PM   
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Ground Strike (AA Sub-Phase):

With one target the French have 12 AA points for the northern-most attack. The lowest of 5 is taken.

For the second attack they have 8 AA points and its the lowest of 6 throws.

The throws were:

10
1
2
5
4

1
8
8
6
9
8

There were 1 point reductions to each bomber.



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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 1:46:13 PM   
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Ground Strike:

There are 4 attacks and I assume the program will take these from north to south as usual. If not then the following dice will be used in strict order of however the program presents the ground strikes. As it turned out the program did present these north to south and the results were as follows:




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 1:58:56 PM   
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Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Japan

Nothing much for the Japanese to do. The Bangkok MIL are ordered to vacate Bangkok.

Germany

The Germans position units in France.

Italy

The Italian Army orders a Corps to Yugoslavia.

Debark:
Japan

An Engineer lands in Canton

Paradrop:
Germany

A Paradrop is made against the hex northeast of Paris.

Land Combat:
Germany

The Germans announce three attacks; northeast of Paris, northwest of Berne and in the Alps.

The odds are unlikely to change for the better for the Germans and so I decline the notional on AllenK's behalf.

The Germans bring in two bombers (8 points) onto the northern hex and one (2 points) against the units in the mountains on the Swiss border. Two fighters are brought into defend the units in the north. There are no other aircraft that can come in. In the mountains the Italians have a 3-strength unit they can intercept with.

Currently (without aircraft) I don't know the exact modifiers for armour - the modifiers shown are from disorganisation alone:
Northeast of Paris: (44:12) 3:1+2
Mountains: (35:10) 3:1+2
The Alps: (19.5:15) 1:1+1

Do the French bring in their bomber?



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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 2:40:52 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 2:41:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		What about your ART in Paris? and you also have a NAV in Marseilles that can reach the Alps and the mountains. Sorry didn't see those.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 2:50:43 PM   
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Thanks for the update. Am following on the mobile so don’t have game open.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 2:54:08 PM   
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Land Combat (Ground Support Sub-Phase):

The Italians bring in a fighter against the French NAV.

Allied: (4) DX - The Italian fighter is shot down. The pilot survives.
Axis: (12) AC - The French bomber is cleared through




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 2:58:55 PM   
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Land Combat (Ground Support Sub-Phase):

Summary:




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 3:07:20 PM   
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Land Combat:
Germany

I take the battles in the order presented by the program - which for some reason seems to be south to north this time.

The first attack is in the Alps at (19.5:15) 1:1+1
The attack in the mountains is at (37:11) 3:1+2
The last attack is northeast of Paris and is (52:15) 3:1+3

What tables do you want to use for the first two battles?

I assume the post in the Charts thread was meant for this . Yes, there is no problem with a retreat path.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 3:22:21 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 3:31:38 PM   
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Land Combat:
Germany

The fractionals failed everytime and the land throws were 10(11), 4(6) and 3(6). All Germans disorganised, no loss to the French or Germans. Here is the summary:



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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 3:39:48 PM   
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Air Rebase:
Italy

A fighter heads south for Alsace-Lorraine

HQ Reorganisation: None

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 3:48:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Admiral Delabroglio

Hello

Great AAR, thanks for sharing.

Best Regards
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Welcome back Admiral!


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 6:46:06 PM   
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No DoW or alignments.

Land: China, France
Combined: The rest.

CW send a TRANS from Suez to Biscay 0-box and loads the INF at Bayonne. A second task force of 3 BB and 2 CA sails to North Sea 3-box.

US sends 2 CP's to Hawaiian Is and Wasp from Norfolk to San Diego. TRANS takes P-40 from West Coast to Christmas Is 0-box.

Chinese make a couple of adjustments to their positions.

CW units move into Djibouti. The Dotch TERR that I moved yo Batavia to see if it would fre up the MIL that won't arrive heads back towards Palembang.

The French forces in the Alps re-position to maintain a line.

CW declares an attack to Boulogne, whilst the French decide to have a go at the ART in the mountains.

Do the Germans wish to fly Ground support CAP? The Italian G.50 could also fly a CAP mission.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:03:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		What are the odds of the two attacks (and known modifiers) and who has choice in Boulogne please?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:09:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Boulogne is 22:6 (3:1). Axis choice.

The mountains is 7.5:2 (4:1) +1. Axis choice.


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:12:12 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:21:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		The RAF send 3 bombers plus Hurricane IIa's as fighter-bombers, for 8 points.

The French add their bomber to their attack. The Germans can fly their NAV at Trieste if they want?


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:23:08 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:28:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

The RAF send 3 bombers plus Hurricane IIa's as fighter-bombers, for 8 points.

The French add their bomber to their attack. The Germans can fly their NAV at Trieste if they want?




Forgot about the Italians. They have 2 NAV's that could provide ground support and the Italian G.50 can escort or intercept if the NAV's don't fly.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:31:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

The RAF send 3 bombers plus Hurricane IIa's as fighter-bombers, for 8 points.

The French add their bomber to their attack. The Germans can fly their NAV at Trieste if they want?




Forgot about the Italians. They have 2 NAV's that could provide ground support and the Italian G.50 can escort or intercept if the NAV's don't fly.
warspite1

So if there is just the bomber the 2 factor bomber flies with the fighter thanks.


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:39:03 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:39:42 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:42:11 PM   
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Do the Italians wish to take the opportunity of returning their fighter to somewhere other than whence it came?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:43:59 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:46:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Back in a tick. Just realised I sent the wrong bomber. Looked at the 2 point NAV attack factor, not the TAC factor .

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:50:48 PM   
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The French think they may just have been a bit rash.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 7:55:04 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 8:05:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		The CW counter-attack dismays the SS corps, which disintegrates as a fighting unit, despite taking minimal casualties.

The CW advance II Inf and over-run German Me-109B's caught on the ground.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/7/2019 8:08:40 PM   
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