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RE: "Midway" by Roland Emmerich - 7/3/2019 10:22:37 PM   
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Maybe it's just me, but, somehow this looks like all it's bringing to the audience, is viloence porn. Graphically violent imagery.


A strange complaint about a war film.



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RE: "Midway" by Roland Emmerich - 7/4/2019 12:01:50 AM   
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The Japanese attacked sugar mills at Waipahu, near MCAS Ewa, and Wahiawa resulting in 5 civilian deaths and 23 wounded. None of those were from AA or ground fire of any sort.

They also strafed the Honolulu airport, John Rogers field, resulting in another civilian death.


I don't doubt this information, but can you provide a source?

The whole "the Japanese didn't target civilians in Pearl Harbor, they were too professional-minded for that" is a silly argument. Their actions resulted in the death of many civilians during the attack. Let alone the intentional civilian bombing campaign in China and their horrendous human rights record in occupied Manchuko / Nanking / Indochina / Philippines, etc., etc..

At best the Japanese were ambivalent towards civilian casualties that they inflicted. At worst, they were genocidal maniacs. There's nothing in their track record of behavior in WWII (and before) that makes me want to give them the benefit of the doubt.


Read about in some historical journals, but here's an easy source:

https://www.nps.gov/valr/learn/historyculture/civilian-casualties.htm

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RE: "Midway" by Roland Emmerich - 7/4/2019 3:56:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IslandInland


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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

Maybe it's just me, but, somehow this looks like all it's bringing to the audience, is viloence porn. Graphically violent imagery.


A strange complaint about a war film.



LOL, a good one!

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RE: "Midway" by Roland Emmerich - 7/4/2019 2:34:24 PM   
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Surely you haven't called Fury "accurate"??

A movie you missed is When Trumpets Fade, I also enjoyed Thin Red Line (many didn't not sure why)


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I mean it won't be perfect, but I guess I'm sick of watching war movies from 40-50 years ago that have aged terribly and have terrible actors. We've had some really good authentic and historical WW2 movies/miniseires in past 15 years: Hacksaw Ridge, The Pacific, Band of Brothers, Fury, Flags of our Fathers, Letters from Iwo Jima, etc. I'm not gonna settle for having to watch Battle of the Bulge from 1965 or Midway from the 70's just because people have nostalgia. Most old movies don't even use the right props; the Battle of the Bulge using US Tanks to represent Tigers was all time cringeworthy.



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RE: "Midway" by Roland Emmerich - 7/4/2019 2:36:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Must admit I found it a strange thing to say aswell. War is extremely gruesome "violence porn".

Films that try skirt this aspect annoy more than the ones who show it all. Sanitised War films are possibly more dangerous than those who show the mess HE and the likes can effect the human body. Nothing on film so far has matched some of the descriptions I've read in WW1 memoirs. WW1 having some of the most gruesome wounds due to the way those big rounds exploded in large chunks rather than the small fragments in Ww2. Both lethal but one causing more visually horrendous wounds.



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Maybe it's just me, but, somehow this looks like all it's bringing to the audience, is viloence porn. Graphically violent imagery.


A strange complaint about a war film.





< Message edited by wodin -- 7/4/2019 2:42:42 PM >

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