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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 7:11:34 PM

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I'm gunna stop using deodorant as a deterrent towards those that would attempt to invade my social distancing space. I think this should work effectively against those approaching from down-wind...

Also a good excuse to conserve water usage and cut back on showering

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 7:12:22 PM

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USSAmerica, that is why I did this:

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Your loss. I do occasionally post useful information that nobody else has posted before, and sometimes repeat useful information that I didn't (yet) notice somebody else posting.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 7:13:09 PM

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I'm gunna stop using deodorant as a deterrent towards those that would attempt to invade my social distancing space. I think this should work effectively against those approaching from down-wind...

Also a good excuse to conserve water usage and cut back on showering

right?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 7:34:35 PM

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I'm gunna stop using deodorant as a deterrent towards those that would attempt to invade my social distancing space. I think this should work effectively against those approaching from down-wind...

Eat lots of garlic as well. It will also help keep the blood sucking females away.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 7:36:21 PM

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A wild guess on my part: Once the experts (medical professionals, mainly) estimated that there were enough bed and equipment to handle needs for any local outbreaks, we'd see a return to work.

That makes sense. At the end of the day, I think most folks hope for some normalcy to return - theatres, restraints, sports games, etc.

I but Amazon is doing very good business right now...

Around here, most of the larger employers are still working. If not all of them.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 7:50:57 PM

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A wild guess on my part: Once the experts (medical professionals, mainly) estimated that there were enough bed and equipment to handle needs for any local outbreaks, we'd see a return to work.

That makes sense. At the end of the day, I think most folks hope for some normalcy to return - theatres, restraints, sports games, etc.

I but Amazon is doing very good business right now...

Around here, most of the larger employers are still working. If not all of them.

Things are pretty rural where I live and the area relies heavily on tourism. Stores\gas stations considered essential are open. Most of the restaurants, our local theatre, the bowling ally - they are closed or on order-take out. Hotels can only accept customers that are "essential" workers (basically contractors). This social distancing is a tough break for a lot of people that make near the minimum wage in an area with inflated tourist-enhanced prices.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:03:45 PM

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here are some tools to help. We use this with students to get them thinking about the categories of bias and misrepresentation that might be occurring with some news sources, and it's pretty useful to get an idea of hw they stack up. When you search the icon appears near a news site and (usually) gives this rating page on rollover. Unfortunately due to the now cluttered landscape of blogs, privately owned and operated "news" sites and other areas of acquiring information online, not all are yet rated.

If anyone knows another method please post a link.

As mentioned elsewhere a rough rule of thumb is if a newspaper has consistently won Pulitzer prizes year, after year, after year there is every reason to expect quality, accurate reporting. The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Associated Press, The Los Angles Times and The Wall Street Journal lead the league are good places to start. I'll also add The Orlando Sentinel, the Miami Herald, The Boston Globe and The Atlantic. The BBC is a good source as are many British Newspapers but some of them do seem to wear their bias on their sleeves a bit.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:07:26 PM

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An example from Monday, for Mind_Messing.

The U. Washington site (https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections) projected 1,967 deaths for the US today. Based upon the current tally of 900, and if the pattern for updating totals holds, it's unlikely that mortality will approach the projected amount. It might be significantly less.

It's worth keeping an eye on because better-than-expected results might well see future downward adjustment.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:09:26 PM

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John, I know you and most folks believe that in good faith. I don't believe that. I could give substantial reasons why but it wouldn't be suitable for an AE forum in any way. I'd be glad to share with you privately. You'd disagree with my thoughts on the particular issue but might understand why I don't credit those sources (with some exceptions).

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here are some tools to help. We use this with students to get them thinking about the categories of bias and misrepresentation that might be occurring with some news sources, and it's pretty useful to get an idea of hw they stack up. When you search the icon appears near a news site and (usually) gives this rating page on rollover. Unfortunately due to the now cluttered landscape of blogs, privately owned and operated "news" sites and other areas of acquiring information online, not all are yet rated.

If anyone knows another method please post a link.

As mentioned elsewhere a rough rule of thumb is if a newspaper has consistently won Pulitzer prizes year, after year, after year there is every reason to expect quality, accurate reporting. The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Associated Press, The Los Angles Times and The Wall Street Journal lead the league are good places to start.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:11:47 PM

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John, I know you and most folks believe that in good faith. I don't believe that. I could give substantial reasons why but it wouldn't be suitable for an AE forum in any way. I'd be glad to share with you privately. You'd disagree with my thoughts on the particular issue but might understand why I don't credit those sources (with some exceptions).

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ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

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here are some tools to help. We use this with students to get them thinking about the categories of bias and misrepresentation that might be occurring with some news sources, and it's pretty useful to get an idea of hw they stack up. When you search the icon appears near a news site and (usually) gives this rating page on rollover. Unfortunately due to the now cluttered landscape of blogs, privately owned and operated "news" sites and other areas of acquiring information online, not all are yet rated.

If anyone knows another method please post a link.

As mentioned elsewhere a rough rule of thumb is if a newspaper has consistently won Pulitzer prizes year, after year, after year there is every reason to expect quality, accurate reporting. The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Associated Press, The Los Angles Times and The Wall Street Journal lead the league are good places to start.

I agree.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:13:41 PM

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Not much traffic in NYC today. Mostly delivery trucks, ambulances from all over the country, and a more than noticeable amount of hearses and mortuary vans on the highways. Dark times on a beautiful spring day.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:15:07 PM

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John, I know a couple of nurses here that reported for duty in NYC. Georgia peaches, they happen to be. :)

Really pulling for you and NYC. I've shared with my family quite a few things you've posted.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:43:30 PM

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John, I know a couple of nurses here that reported for duty in NYC. Georgia peaches, they happen to be. :)

Really pulling for you and NYC. I've shared with my family quite a few things you've posted.

We got a ton of goodwill from all around the country and I know a full plane full from Georgia. We will return the favor as soon as we can. Broke one of my own rules and was listening to the EMS Dispatch radio. Something was odd and I figured out that they were spelling out street names. That's because we have a ton of out of state folks that showed up to help. Got word today that the State and City shutdown has been extended until April 29th and all non essential personnel will remain at home until at least then. I'm not in that group so I'm still in every other day and remote the other. The good news is free premium parking and no traffic, the bad news is I'm no longer on the train so my reading time has has been drastically shortened. That really hurts

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:49:54 PM

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So we opened the floodgates of America bashing and we finally see people's true colors.

Good riddance.

More inappropriate.

For the record, since we seem to be self-moderating, that's why I'm tagging these.

And you were apparently voted hall monitor?

What part of self meaning only you is too complex for you?

A shame you can't grasp what you are doing is just as inappropriate.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:57:15 PM

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Can we change the name of the thread to China Virus?

"Hall monitor"

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 8:57:53 PM

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I'm gunna stop using deodorant as a deterrent towards those that would attempt to invade my social distancing space. I think this should work effectively against those approaching from down-wind...

Also a good excuse to conserve water usage and cut back on showering

Careful, you might be in violation of the Geneva Convention rules on chemical warfare.

No chemicals - that's all-natural musk! lol

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 9:02:56 PM

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Thus far a good report from Louisiana today.

And, to my knowledge, its the first state to reach its projected peak in daily mortality. That is really cool to see (and lots more coming soon, including New York and California).

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 9:08:25 PM

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Deleware, Vermont and Washington too.

Colorado is one day away.

Just good to see some states may be turning the curve or flattening.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 9:16:49 PM

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.....and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is in intensive care tonight with the coronavirus......

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 9:20:10 PM

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Best wishes to him, Warspite.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 9:24:19 PM

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infection rate is slowing. It was 32% a day on March 8th and went above 35% for a bit in mid March. It was 27% a day on Saturday and it looks like we will come in today at 26%. Deaths are a lagging indicator so they continue to climb but social distancing is working. I'm hoping to see a real change by the begging of May in New York. Not sure whats comes next or how to we get back to work but tomorrow looks better than today in my part of the world

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 9:25:01 PM

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Best wishes to him, Warspite.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 10:16:57 PM

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I competed against Boris Johnson in a poetry contest (with hundreds of others no doubt)...and he won...by rhyming "Ankara" with "wankerer"..

I hope the guy is OK after all this.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 10:33:41 PM

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Terrible thing this virus is doing to humanity.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 11:37:55 PM

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Coronavirus: Tiger at Bronx Zoo tests positive for Covid-19

3 hours ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52177586

A four-year-old female Malayan tiger at the Bronx Zoo has tested positive for the coronavirus.

"The tiger, named Nadia, is believed to be the first known case of an animal infected with Covid-19 in the US.

The Bronx Zoo, in New York City, says the test result was confirmed by the National Veterinary Services Laboratory in Iowa.

Nadia, along with six other big cats, is thought to have been infected by an asymptomatic zoo keeper.

The cats started showing symptoms, including a dry cough, late last month after exposure to the employee, who has not been identified. "

That was on the news earlier and they said that France had a case of a dog carrying the virus some time ago. I guess the message is: don't get too cozy with your pet or tiger.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 11:58:22 PM

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It looks like all states have reported today except Idaho. US mortality 1,230 on a day projected to be 1,967.** So the actual total may be much less than projected, amplifying the trend leading to yesterday's downward projections. It would be something to see another adjustment to the graphs in a few days or a week.

**Subject to whatever additional totals come in before midnight.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/6/2020 11:59:54 PM

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Grocery workers are beginning to die of coronavirus
1 hr ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/grocery-workers-are-beginning-to-die-of-coronavirus/ar-BB12eFSF?li=BBnb7Kz

"Major supermarket chains are beginning to report their first coronavirus-related employee deaths, leading to store closures and increasing anxiety among grocery workers as the pandemic intensifies across the country."

"Those efforts are likely to take on new urgency, analysts said, as supermarket workers across the country begin to see colleagues fall ill from covid-19. More than 356,000 Americans have tested positive for the coronavirus as of Monday afternoon, and nearly 10,500 have died. "

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/7/2020 12:05:30 AM

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Number of coronavirus deaths in New York flattens and hospitalizations fall, suggesting social distancing is working
April 6, 2020 at 7:17 p.m. ET

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-new-york-flattens-and-hospitalizations-fall-suggesting-social-distancing-is-working-2020-04-06

"With the number of COVID-19 deaths flat two straight days and new hospitalizations falling, New York is possibly entering the pandemic�s apex, said Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Monday. However, he stressed that New Yorkers need to practice better social distancing and extended the state�s lockdown until at least April 29.

�We get reckless, we change or are not compliant on social distancing, you will see those numbers go up again,� Cuomo said. �This virus has kicked our rear end; we underestimate this virus at our peril. Now is not the time to slack off on what we�re doing.�"

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/7/2020 12:06:31 AM

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NYC to begin temporarily burying coronavirus victims in local parks
April 6, 2020

https://nypost.com/2020/04/06/nyc-to-begin-temporarily-burying-coronavirus-victims-in-local-parks/

"�We may well be dealing with temporary burials, so we can deal with each family later,� the mayor said. We will have the capacity for temporary burials � that�s all I�m going to say.�

�I�m not going into details,� de Blasio said. �I don�t think it�s a great thing to be talking about.�"

Disclaimer- Articles that I post are not a argument of what I believe or don't believe.
Merely info on what is going on.

Yes, most of the trailers are full. They had carpenters add a 2nd deck (kind of like bunk beds) but they are about out of room. I am aware of one of the locations, but I expect there will be a few. Usually they go to Hart Island, which is potters field, but it is a bit of chore to get there. Temporary measure. Strange days indeed. I feel this will be the big week. I have no idea what comes after

Good lord! You are at the point of having mass burial pits? Shades of Iran!

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/7/2020 12:07:57 AM

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Governors see possible 'flattening' of the curve in latest coronavirus data

Improvements in New York, New Jersey, California and Washington raise

4/06/2020 07:13 PM EDT

"Improvements in New York, New Jersey, California and Washington raise hopes, but "this isn�t over," one governor warns."

"In the absence of a national order to close businesses and keep people at home, the New York governor formed a regional coalition with New Jersey, Connecticut and Pennsylvania last month to uniformly limit the number of people who could gather in groups and close nonessential establishments throughout the region."

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