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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 1:55:51 PM   
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California is the nation's most populous state at 40 million.

It's done remarkably well throughout this crisis and is projected to continue doing so.

Since the virus reached its shores long ago, among the earliest places in the US, this is particularly surprising. California might've done an exceptional job of quarantining those early cases, but the level of traffic in and out, and the amount of time the virus has had to do its work, makes the outcome here remarkable.

Cap Mandrake is a resident physician there too. That can't hurt.






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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 1:57:33 PM   
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An example of two things, the blame game and (yet another example of) preparations not maintained (raided for the budget).

Obama administration repeatedly sought to cut PPE stockpile, but Biden team points to GOP-led 'budget squeeze'

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:24:34 PM   
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LA Mayor Eric Garcetti is trying to build up herd immunity by putting all the homeless in rec centers so they all get COVID-19. Or maybe he is trying to "end homelessness" WITH a virus.

Oh wait, I forgot "homeless" is demeaning. The new term is "unsheltered". Meanwhile city parks are closed down so kids can't use the jungle gym but the the restrooms are open at night for the "unsheltered"

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:26:48 PM   
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Entire FEMA-supplied field hospital disbanded in Washington State without ever housing a single patient. Good sign but it does show the "models" are imperfect.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:35:42 PM   
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Homeowners sue over restricted access to Outer Banks second homes due to coronavirus

[quoteFurious homeowners in a popular North Carolina vacation spot have filed a lawsuit against officials for denying them access to their second homes due to coronavirus, claiming their constitutional rights have been infringed.

Dare County, NC, where the median house price is $350,000, began to restrict access on March 20 following a State of Emergency declaration. Checkpoints along major highways require drivers to produce a North Carolina driver’s license or a "Permanent Resident Permit" to proceed across one of the two bridges that access the Outer Banks area.

Six homeowners, who reside the rest of the time in South Carolina, Virginia and Maryland, have backed the complaint, claiming the ban violates the "privileges and immunities" clause of the U.S. Constitution, which states that "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several states."][/quote]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/homeowners-sue-outerbanks-access-second-home-coronavirus

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:43:55 PM   
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Coronavirus is now the leading cause of death in America
April 10, 2020


https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/coronavirus-is-now-the-leading-cause-of-death-in-america/


"COVID-19 — the illness caused by the novel coronavirus spreading across the globe — is now the No. 1 cause of death in the US, where it is killing more people every day than heart disease or cancer, according to a report.

A new graph published this week by Dr. Maria Danilychev, a San Diego-based physician, showed the disease causes 1,970 deaths across the country per day, according to Newsweek.

Meanwhile, the graph shows that 1,774 deaths per day are caused by heart disease and 1,641 to cancer, the mag reported.

Only last week, COVID-19 was the third-leading cause of death, averaging about 748 deaths per day, taking the place of accidents, according to Danilychev’s previous report."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:44:14 PM   
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who wants ice cream?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:47:18 PM   
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L.A.'s coronavirus mask order is now the law. 5 things you need to know
April 10, 2020
6:56 AM


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-10/wearing-masks-or-face-coverings-is-now-the-law-in-la



"If you are going to a grocery store, pharmacy or doing other essential shopping in Los Angeles, you need to be wearing a mask or face covering.

Beginning Friday, a new city order requires both shoppers and workers to wear a face covering.

It’s the latest effort by the city to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus. The stay-at-home order has already closed nonessential businesses as well as many beaches, trails and recreation centers."

1. The idea is to protect both customers and workers
2. It’s not just at the supermarket and drug stores
3. Other jurisdictions have these rules, and some go further
4. There is one thing officials don’t want you to do
5. Here’s what you need to know about masks and face coverings

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:51:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Entire FEMA-supplied field hospital disbanded in Washington State without ever housing a single patient. Good sign but it does show the "models" are imperfect.


I tried to send you a PM thankyou note about that other thing, but apparently your storage box is full.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:58:30 PM   
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Cap, building from the point you make, I suppose that early on, models were challenging to create. The initial outbreak in Seattle and Calif must've caught them with little data to work with. With so much information available now, from so many sources, the best models should be more reliable.



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Entire FEMA-supplied field hospital disbanded in Washington State without ever housing a single patient. Good sign but it does show the "models" are imperfect.


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:58:32 PM   
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There are what look to be Tennessee Warblers or Vireos building a nest in a Red Oak near my porch.
Their craftsmanship is outstanding. The nest looks like part of the tree. It is adobe style.


Cardinals just throw a few twigs on a branch.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 2:59:37 PM   
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SARS-1, Wuhan-1 and 3 of the 4 known endemic Coronaviruses are of bat origin.

I have an idea. Why don't we stop crawling around in Chinese caves collecting bats? Do we really NEED to discover any more bat coronaviruses from animals that **** upside down? After all, what scientific purpose is gained at this point? The Horseshoe Bat is the likely reservoir source of both SARS-1 and Wuhan-1. By some evolutionary accident we seem to share viral attachment sites with the Horsesehoe Bat.

I say we send in volunteers in hazmat suits and flamethrowers and BBQ the damn things. After all, we have been deliberately killing the Anopheles mosquito for 100 years and Aides aegyptica for 50 years.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:01:41 PM   
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Hey, you, Tennessee! There aint such a thing as a Tennessee vireo. And the Tennessee warbler doesn't breed south of Canada (except at a few edges).

There are a zillion species of warbler and a half-dozen vireos you might be looking at. Some likelies would be: yellow-throated vireo, red-eyed vireo, blue-headed vireo; pine warbler; yellow-throated warbler.

Here's the Cornell U. website, which has photos, songs, etc. Everything is there: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Tennessee_Warbler/id

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:02:04 PM   
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Chef Jose Andres responds to coronavirus with hope and action
March 18, 2020, 4:55 p.m.

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Chef José Andrés is at it again.

In the same breath the founder of World Central Kitchen announced he was shutting his famous restaurants in response to the coronavirus pandemic, he said he's transforming several of them into community kitchens to feed out-of-work families and struggling workers, according to the Good News Network.
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It's just the latest action by the big-hearted chef who simply arrives when disaster strikes and provides a healthy meal.

Andrés created the nonprofit World Central Kitchen after the 2010 earthquake in Haiti to match up chefs and volunteers with communities that need their culinary skills. Since then, the organization has brought meals to disaster areas in Brazil, Cambodia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Nicaragua, Zambia, and the United States in regions such as Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria and Florida's Panhandle after Hurricane Michael. Celebrity chefs Guy Fieri and Tyler Florence joined Andrés in Butte County, California, where they served Thanksgiving dinner to 15,000 evacuees of the Camp Fire that devastated the community of Paradise.


https://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/responsible-living/blogs/chef-jose-andres-nominated-nobel-peace-prize

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:08:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Hey, you, Tennessee! There aint such a thing as a Tennessee vireo. And the Tennessee warbler doesn't breed south of Canada (except at a few edges).

There are a zillion species of warbler and a half-dozen vireos you might be looking at. Some likelies would be: yellow-throated vireo, red-eyed vireo, blue-headed vireo; pine warbler; yellow-throated warbler.

Here's the Cornell U. website, which has photos, songs, etc. Everything is there: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Tennessee_Warbler/id


Methinks that I have seen that bird somewhere . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_warbler

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:09:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Hey, you, Tennessee! There aint such a thing as a Tennessee vireo. And the Tennessee warbler doesn't breed south of Canada (except at a few edges).

There are a zillion species of warbler and a half-dozen vireos you might be looking at. Some likelies would be: yellow-throated vireo, red-eyed vireo, blue-headed vireo; pine warbler; yellow-throated warbler.

Here's the Cornell U. website, which has photos, songs, etc. Everything is there: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Tennessee_Warbler/id



I showed them my Peterson's guide.

Just "Vireos".

There is no bright color on them. Grey/white. Cannot see eye nor throat bars.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:11:14 PM   
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My guide shows a lot less yellow on the Tennessee warbler

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:12:43 PM   
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Sledgehammer's favorite thing was finding birds "OUT OF AREA"

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:14:59 PM   
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Maybe Warbling Vireos.


The ones Iam seeing are tiny. Cell phone pic is no good.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:17:02 PM   
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I bush hogged yesterday. Hawks galore. And buzzards/vultures eating the afterbirth of my neighbors calf.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:18:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Hey, you, Tennessee! There aint such a thing as a Tennessee vireo. And the Tennessee warbler doesn't breed south of Canada (except at a few edges).

There are a zillion species of warbler and a half-dozen vireos you might be looking at. Some likelies would be: yellow-throated vireo, red-eyed vireo, blue-headed vireo; pine warbler; yellow-throated warbler.

Here's the Cornell U. website, which has photos, songs, etc. Everything is there: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Tennessee_Warbler/id


Methinks that I have seen that bird somewhere . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_warbler



Internet pics showing green/yellow. Not so much in my guide. Cannot find my other guide.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:20:21 PM   
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Weird looks from people:


When I tell them "That's not a Stork it is a Heron."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:21:08 PM   
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"Tennessee Warbler"






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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:28:31 PM   
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US states sorted in order of mortality, as of 4/9. Also added is info from projections for NY, Washington, Calif.

The information illustrates the severity of the battle in NY. JohnD, who is on the front line, has expressed some glimmers of hope. Until NY/NJ/CT have this under control, other states likely aren't going to feel the freedom to relax. The Univ. of Washington site projects that daily mortality will fall to single digits in NY on April 30.




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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:28:36 PM   
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quote:

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"Tennessee Warbler"








REALLY!!!!

It must just layover in Tennessee.

OR

This year it had to nest in place.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:29:58 PM   
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It migrates through Tennessee, going and coming. Audubon or Michaux (or whoever) probably first identified it in the Volunteer State.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:30:14 PM   
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Historical Fact

In the 1800s one of the major exports from my county was feathers and pet birds.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:33:33 PM   
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Me: "I don't know, Dr. Sledge, That's a hard one to identify. Iam going to have to go with Bald Eagle."


Sledge: "That's a Carolina Wren."


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:37:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: obvert
....A few bumps, but overall, especially at times that invite more international participation, the thread is very productive. I notice no conflict at all between the hours of 06:00 GMT and about 10:00 GMT.


Sure has been peaceful here the past couple of hours.







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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/10/2020 3:39:28 PM   
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After me saying that.... often, he took us to see Bald Eagles at Lake Guntersville.

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