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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 12:36:59 PM   
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4 May 2020

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52529981


"Video surveillance cameras in France will monitor how many people are wearing masks and their compliance with social distancing when the coronavirus lockdown is eased next week."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 12:43:05 PM   
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Pre-existing conditions:

BMI>26...anyone? Anyone?

High blood pressure...anyone?

Neither of these I find comforting.



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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 12:49:12 PM   
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Punjab gangster tests positive for coronavirus; 30 cops quarantined
May 05, 2020



https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/punjab-gangster-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-30-cops-quarantined-80729



"A notorious Punjab gangster tested positive for coronavirus in Gurdaspur's Batala, where he was brought on a production warrant in a murder case from a Patiala jail.

Gurdaspur Civil Surgeon Krishan Chand said gangster Jaggu Bhagwanpuria's test report came on Tuesday afternoon, confirmed him to be a coronavirus case."

"Bhagwanpuria, whose real name is Jagdeep Singh, was brought to Batala from the Patiala jail on April 30.

He has several criminal cases, including murder and robbery, registered against him. "

"Bhagwanpuria's mother Harjit Kaur, who is a sarpanch of Bhagwanpur village in Batala, held a protest outside the Civil Lines police station, demanding that her son be given better treatment."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 12:52:53 PM   
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Flights from India will go to US, the Philippines, Singapore, Bangladesh, UAE, UK, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Singapore, Phillippines, Oman, Bahrain and Kuwait.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-india-lockdown-14-800-stranded-indians-on-64-flights-indias-massive-evacuation-plan-2223510

"New Delhi: Hundreds of thousands of Indians stranded abroad because of the coronavirus crisis will be brought back by air and by sea from Thursday in the world's largest evacuation mission. More than 1,90,000 Indians have requested a flight home."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 12:56:01 PM   
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Do the Media Even Exist?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:06:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Pre-existing conditions:

BMI>26...anyone? Anyone?

High blood pressure...anyone?

Neither of these I find comforting.


Add to this

- vitamin D deficit (yeah, unfortuneately we are not all the same. Probably a cofactor regarding much hitten minorities)

- OH-ABUSUS! All guys infected in carnival meetings get hitten much harder in comparison with 'normal' community spreading - carnival is just an excuse to get completely drunken in the public (and yes, no matter what they say, at some point past midnight they drunk all brotherhood from the same big glass... long tradition. Another indicaton might be the significant higher diarhoe in this cases.

" for example, it is clear that heavy drinkers are more likely to have pneumonia (Jellinek 1943; Samokhvalov et al. 2010), tuberculosis (TB) (Borgdorff et al. 1998; Buskin et al. 1994; Kline et al. 1995; Narasimhan et al. 2013), respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) infection (Jerrells et al. 2007), and acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) (Moore et al. 2003; Moss et al. 1996)."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590617/#!po=0.549451


So, anyone feeding himself with junk and malnutrition? :-)

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:09:22 PM   
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Without good journalism, a free press, we veer toward authoritarianism. It's very surprising to hear so much critique of it here.


I can't speak for the others, but I yearn for a free and independent press. We don't have it and with the current media we are veering to authoritarianism.

I do read and listen to all sides, and I consider myself an independent thinker. See WITPQS link above for more detail.

You are misconstruing at least my argument. Very badly.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:11:12 PM   
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Victor Davis Hanson's piece on so-called journalism from two days ago.

Do the Media Even Exist?






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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:23:01 PM   
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Without good journalism, a free press, we veer toward authoritarianism. It's very surprising to hear so much critique of it here.


I can't speak for the others, but I yearn for a free and independent press. We don't have it and with the current media we are veering to authoritarianism.

I do read and listen to all sides, and I consider myself an independent thinker. See WITPQS link above for more detail.

You are misconstruing at least my argument. Very badly.


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:34:25 PM   
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https://www.scribd.com/document/459799071/Governors-Report-Card

But here is a report card on how different Govs' are handling the virus and it has a little chart in the report. I question the numbers, but I don't question that unemployment has a direct effect with the outcomes mentioned.

In our rush to adopt a theory, we have certainly caused a lot of dire problems.


Anyhow, for example the article gives Wolfe, my gov, a F. It gives the Colorado and Georgia Govs an A.





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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:36:36 PM   
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+1

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Without good journalism, a free press, we veer toward authoritarianism. It's very surprising to hear so much critique of it here.


I can't speak for the others, but I yearn for a free and independent press. We don't have it and with the current media we are veering to authoritarianism.

I do read and listen to all sides, and I consider myself an independent thinker. See WITPQS link above for more detail.

You are misconstruing at least my argument. Very badly.



another +1


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:37:59 PM   
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Victor Davis Hanson's piece on so-called journalism from two days ago.

Do the Media Even Exist?






About 20 years ago when I lived in California, one year there had been a longer than average dry spell. Rain was impending, and it being SoCal there were TV reporters out and about waiting for it (I kid you not).

The desk anchors spoke with one reporter, who described basically nothing, then switched to another reporter somewhere else in LA. Almost immediately, they urgently announced they were switching back to the first reporter. When he came on he excitedly announced it was raining: "The rain is coming down! The rain is coming down and hitting the pavement! It is hitting the pavement!!! The rain is hitting the pavement!!!"

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:38:59 PM   
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+1

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ORIGINAL: obvert


Without good journalism, a free press, we veer toward authoritarianism. It's very surprising to hear so much critique of it here.


I can't speak for the others, but I yearn for a free and independent press. We don't have it and with the current media we are veering to authoritarianism.

I do read and listen to all sides, and I consider myself an independent thinker. See WITPQS link above for more detail.

You are misconstruing at least my argument. Very badly.



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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:40:30 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:41:47 PM   
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**(CNN today: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-economy-models/index.html)




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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:44:53 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:47:18 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:47:55 PM   
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Luckily for the state-owned journalists and broadcasters who lost their jobs in China today, CNN was hiring.




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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:50:29 PM   
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Chinese Government Lays Off Entire Propaganda Team As American Media Doing Their Job For Them

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Luckily for the state-owned journalists and broadcasters who lost their jobs in China today, CNN was hiring.





Babylon Bee is great satire.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 1:57:56 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:14:17 PM   
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CNN contends new cases have stubbornly plateaued, overlooking the fact that testing is up considerably....and new cases may be declining (at least in comparison to the numbers CNN cited).






An interesting tidbit here is now both North Carolina and Virginia count each positive test of covid, even if the same person is tested positively on concurrent or different days. 1 person, two or more tests, new cases.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:17:17 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:25:12 PM   
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Luckily you're very clear in your lack of bias yourself!


My bias is as well established as yours.

Thankfully neither of us are journalists.


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:31:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

+1

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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ORIGINAL: obvert


Without good journalism, a free press, we veer toward authoritarianism. It's very surprising to hear so much critique of it here.


I can't speak for the others, but I yearn for a free and independent press. We don't have it and with the current media we are veering to authoritarianism.

I do read and listen to all sides, and I consider myself an independent thinker. See WITPQS link above for more detail.

You are misconstruing at least my argument. Very badly.





How much do you folks read Associated Press? That's about as independent and fact-based as it gets? Or are you talking analysis rather than simply reporting?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:32:51 PM   
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https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2020/05/05/the-worldwide-lockdown-may-be-the-greatest-mistake-in-history-n2568180

The idea that the worldwide lockdown of virtually every country other than Sweden may have been an enormous mistake strikes many -- including world leaders; most scientists, especially health officials, doctors and epidemiologists; those who work in major news media; opinion writers in those media; and the hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people who put their faith in these people -- as so preposterous as to be immoral. Timothy Egan of The New York Times described Republicans who wish to enable their states to open up as "the party of death."


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:33:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Pre-existing conditions:

BMI>26...anyone? Anyone?

High blood pressure...anyone?

Neither of these I find comforting.



Lean, mean, F'ing Machine. Got to keep my girlish figure!

I suffer from low blood pressure, from my Mother's side.


One time, my blood pressure was 62 over 59. I drove myself to the hospital from the clinic . . .

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:35:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

CNN contends new cases have stubbornly plateaued, overlooking the fact that testing is up considerably....and new cases may be declining (at least in comparison to the numbers CNN cited).






An interesting tidbit here is now both North Carolina and Virginia count each positive test of covid, even if the same person is tested positively on concurrent or different days. 1 person, two or more tests, new cases.


That further damages the data.

I say further, because Aaffins and I know of stories in Richmond where in early March they simply weren't testing people, telling them to go home and self-quarantine. We have a friend who happily was able to recover this way. This is purely anecdotal, but seeing as I live in VA, wanted to add my 2 cents.



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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:42:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Pre-existing conditions:

BMI>26...anyone? Anyone?

High blood pressure...anyone?

Neither of these I find comforting.


Add to this

- vitamin D deficit (yeah, unfortuneately we are not all the same. Probably a cofactor regarding much hitten minorities)


Yes, that would affect minorities more since they produce less Vitamin D than those without the natural tans. But also to be considered, during the winter those living above the 45 Latitude don't get enough concentrated sunlight to produce Vitamin D either. So take the supplements, eat those few foods that have the Vitamin D, consume the fortified dairy products, and improve your mood while protecting yourself from this new corona virus. Yes, Vitamin D deficiency can affect your mood. It is a big factor in the Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) which causes a lot of problems in February.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:46:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Pre-existing conditions:

BMI>26...anyone? Anyone?

High blood pressure...anyone?

Neither of these I find comforting.



Lean, mean, F'ing Machine. Got to keep my girlish figure!

I suffer from low blood pressure, from my Mother's side.


I am pretty sure there is something wrong with you.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 5/5/2020 2:51:01 PM   
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My favorite example of an unbiased press.






Madre de Dios! That is an absurd headline

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