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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 6/30/2020 4:43:01 PM   
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The airfields must be using a parking garage. Time for night bombing . . .


Nah. I will move a division into Tjilatjap, and normally the AI will retreat air force from contested bases.

Hopefully the planes will relocate to Soerabaja's much larger runways.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 6/30/2020 11:29:59 PM   
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In the southern SRA we catch three tankers, what they were doing there is anybody's guess.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Taberfane at 82,117, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Shell hits 1
DD Arare

Allied Ships
TK Augustina, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
TK Marpessa, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
TK Herborg, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

And then after two small skirmishes in the night to no effect, TF Tone closes with the Antigone (Leander class) and my favorite IJN Cruiser puts those forward turrets to work:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Kalidjati at 51,99, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Tone, Shell hits 1
DD Okikaze
DD Hakaze
DD Nokaze

Allied Ships
DD Baroda, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
CL Antigone, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
DD Fearless, Shell hits 13, and is sunk

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 23,000 yards
CA Tone fires at DD Fearless at 23,000 yards
DD Baroda sunk by CA Tone at 23,000 yards
CL Antigone sunk by CA Tone at 12,000 yards
CA Tone engages DD Fearless at 24,000 yards
Massive explosion on DD Fearless
DD Fearless sunk by CA Tone at 10,000 yards

Nicks are doing good work at Rabaul...one of many fights.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 106,125

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 6
P-38G Lightning x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Ic: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed



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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 12:19:10 AM   
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Nicks have made a big improvement over the skies of Rabaul, only here for a couple of days.

Experimenting with using a standard 20% rest on FB squadrons to see if that reduces op losses






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 1:29:23 AM   
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1st and 2nd Carrier Division strike...does the nasty weather prevent the floatplanes from flying?

LaTriomphant is one of my favorite Allied ships.






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 1:31:06 AM   
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Ambon invasion is away...near Billiton

TF Yamato sees action, and TF Tone raids down the coastline looking for fights...






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 1:32:40 AM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 1:40:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is a donnybrook here. Only Rabaul is somewhat strong, but only 40 or so fighters present...this is going to be tough.




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 1:42:15 AM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 1:44:43 AM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 2:03:12 AM   
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Butchers bill...lost 2 destroyers.





You are still causing more in losses. But it looks like there needs to be more IJN ships in the pipeline.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 11:28:45 AM   
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I was afraid these ships had a Qboat with them, which would shred my air attack, so Nagato was tasked with the intercept, despite 3 of her destroyers being upgraded nearby.

The Wakatake class DD are the pitifully weak destroyers, but they do their job and protect Nagato from eating any torpedoes.

The Chokai with 2 destroyers is in a support position, unable to make the engagement and the enemy destroyers escaped. Another American SAG is spotted however, or is it the fleeing destroyers plus 1 ship due to FOW?...we will pull back a bit and put the torpedo bombers on alert at Ominato until Nagato can be rearmed.

In the Aleutians, the Americans have yet to build their bases up.





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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 11:35:26 AM   
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You are still causing more in losses. But it looks like there needs to be more IJN ships in the pipeline.


Historically, I am very tough on Japanese destroyers.

I got a destroyer yesterday, and here are my builds. Thanks to enlarging my naval shipyards I am able to accelerate lots of CVs plus the destroyers while still building all warships.

I have also accelerated the CVE which fall under merchant shipyards domain.

Still, I can't afford to trade destroyers for cruisers.






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 11:55:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Splitting up my one recon Sentai here, let me get some good intel on three bases...it is not too late to grab some of these, as there is now four AA units at Rabaul to help protect them. Getting the troops and supplies in under the nose of the massive air threat at PM will be tricky though.

I want to create a mined festung with DP guns at Umboi and Long Island.

Trying to figure out exactly what the AI is doing is always very difficult!

6th Carrier Division will ultimately be Junyo and Hiyo and Nisshin with 18 Rufes.




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 12:06:52 PM   
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Plus CVE Hosho at 52 flood damage heading back to Honshu.

Every couple of days I optimize the repair settings.






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 12:10:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		A good day in the air, as the Java based Allied air force sortied against Carrier Divisions 1 and 2 that are escorting the Ambon invasion force...

Also the Rabaul Zeroes and Nicks covering Task Force Yamashiro nailed some bombers that lacked escorts.

I am so hurting for Zeroes, I have had to use some Claudes...which just get shot down at an amazing rate. 13 lost for 1 kill! Doesn't help that they aren't good pilots either, a consequence of no squadron resizing.







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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 1:40:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tomorrow I will get the engine bonus for r&d on the A6M8, and the plane should start production in November I think.

I wish I would have focused a bit on getting this plane earlier. I surely could have had the engine bonus sooner, and I am now of the opinion that the A6M8 ranks behind the Frank and Sam only in importance. Putting 10 factories on the Rufe, and then advancing them to M8 means getting that fighter in late 1942 and it gives the KB a huge leg up for the inevitable carrier clashes in late 42 and 43. The mere presence of the fighters in numbers (in a Jack role from land bases) might very well intimidate the Allies into being rather meek until Hellcat turnover occurs.

Against the AI none of that is a consideration, it is simply a great defensive counter very early.





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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 5:28:11 PM   
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An engagement by Soerabaja...the IJN Yuzuki is crippled and left behind for torpedo bombers to practice on. Scratch another IJN destroyer. Didn't want to have a daytime encounter.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Soerabaja at 55,103, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kako, Shell hits 8
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
CLAA Colombo, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Walke
DD Shaw
DD MMS B, Shell hits 1, on fire

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:03:45 PM   
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The war is starting to get real! Invasion Etorofu!! Umnak is the closest island in the Aleutians that is built up -- I thought I had more time here.

Thank goodness I had the foresight to put Nagato and Chokai with some 3rd rate destroyers here in this theater. The 301st Independent Infantry Battalion is nothing to write home about: 42 AV, 36 squads, 6 hmg, and 4 70mm ww1 artillery antiques behind forts 2. But they were good enough! They have been cooling their heels on Etorofu for 30 days or so and even now the 303rd is unloading at Paramushiro.

What a royal pain it would be to lose one of the Kuriles this early. Of course, I have done it in a previous AAR perhaps even in two).

My worthless recon had the taskforce being cl/dd. These Americans could probably have steamed into Shikuka and taken that wiping out the oil there...as there is only a construction company there (don't tell Andy).

The Chokai got roughly handled by one 5.25 inch shell...






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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:10:29 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:16:40 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:24:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Once the troops are landed on Ambon, the 1st and 2nd Carrier Divisions are desperately needed to support invasion in the Lae area and reinforcing the Umboi defensive line. These Zero pilots will have their work cut out for them in about a weeks time! And if that works out they will need to head back to Java and escort an amphibious invasion of Burma...getting real late.

I hope I don't lose any nice AMC or LSD or AK in this landing at Ambon. I have lost enough already.




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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:31:26 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:32:41 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:32:55 PM   
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Too bad that you don't get the emergency reinforcements for that.


Long time ago, there was a discussion on that topic, and some experience players said it is not advisable for Japan, because the supply consumption of these poor quality troops will add up a lot to an already supply-starved empire

that said, this is a beefed scenario, maybe the additional troops can help

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Too bad that you don't get the emergency reinforcements for that.


Long time ago, there was a discussion on that topic, and some experience players said it is not advisable for Japan, because the supply consumption of these poor quality troops will add up a lot to an already supply-starved empire

that said, this is a beefed scenario, maybe the additional troops can help


That said, it is also very early. Those troops can train, whether or not they get replacements, and they can also be used in Manchukuo and China for garrisons.

But yes, there will be a supply cost. Maybe Japan should not get the entire amount of emergency reinforcements, maybe just get some for the north.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:37:24 PM   
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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:38:12 PM   
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nothing on the Operational report or combat events?
whoever spotted it, probably put a bomb

how do you deal with fatigue for those squadrons at CAP of many hexes? 60ish % CAP? with forced % rest?

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Too bad that you don't get the emergency reinforcements for that.


Long time ago, there was a discussion on that topic, and some experience players said it is not advisable for Japan, because the supply consumption of these poor quality troops will add up a lot to an already supply-starved empire

that said, this is a beefed scenario, maybe the additional troops can help


That said, it is also very early. Those troops can train, whether or not they get replacements, and they can also be used in Manchukuo and China for garrisons.

But yes, there will be a supply cost. Maybe Japan should not get the entire amount of emergency reinforcements, maybe just get some for the north.


I will take those depot divisions every time early, despite the supply cost. I recall they are restricted and you cannot fly them to Manchuko/Korea. Can't remember about getting them to Hokkaido. Their morale and experience is in the 30's. Even behind great forts they are tough to use until you can improve on their poor morale and training. Good for absorbing shore bombardments though.

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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:49:59 PM   
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nothing on the Operational report or combat events?
whoever spotted it, probably put a bomb

how do you deal with fatigue for those squadrons at CAP of many hexes? 60ish % CAP? with forced % rest?


The first time it happened, the darn Mitchells almost sank a nice oiler. Now Oscars or Zeroes at least intercept, but the merchant ships are easy targets. And as morale gets low, I think the Allies can sense when the fighter cover is below normal and then they strike!





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RE: Beware the Dorniers! Scen 17 Tier 3 (Lowpe vs AI (... - 7/1/2020 10:59:07 PM   
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hence against the computer it is good to have anything, even float planes, doing CAP



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