RE: Nonsensical AI

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

RE: Nonsensical AI

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> RE: Nonsensical AI

Page: << < prev 1 [2]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/21/2020 5:00:15 PM

FAA

Posts: 82
Joined: 12/10/2019
Status: offline

Turns out it was a display bug. Numbers were distorted all over but actual values were fine. Game randomly added spaces to displayed numbers and fonts got green in the menus, fixed after a reload.

I tried the new scen as suggested by Yaab and so far it�s better - particularly with air units which are less suicidal. Only Dec. 20 by now but no suicidal carrier attacks, which is good - AI raided north of Midway but kept its distance.

(in reply to Andy Mac)

Post #: 31

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/24/2020 12:12:42 AM

Timotheus

Posts: 481
Joined: 12/13/2013
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

FAA DaBabesLight is a great scenario and the guys put a lot of effort into it and it is definitely playable v the AI but it is basically scenario 1 ie historical and I would never recommend playing the AI on any version of scen 1 - to be effective in that scenario the AI has to do everything right and a scripted AI simply cannot do that v a player

Andy

Good timing.
I just posted a rambling question but let me ask here also:
For Japan AI, to be a challenge to a mediocre player like me (historical is not a challenge, scen 023 AI did not take Palembang ever), it has to be ironman, correct?

Go with Ironman Allied?
Did you go overboard insane

with Ironman 2 scenario as a challenge?

Thanks for all your work in this game, much appreciated

_____________________________

NEWBIE GUIDE Distant Worlds Universe
http://tinyurl.com/k3frrle

War in the Pacific Poradnik po Polsku
http://tinyurl.com/nxd4cesh

INSTALL WITPAE on modern PC
https://tinyurl.com/l5kr6rl

(in reply to Andy Mac)

Post #: 32

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/28/2020 1:44:53 PM

morphin

Posts: 572
Joined: 4/26/2002
From: Switzerland
Status: offline

Thank's Andy I'm Waiting for Scen 17

< Message edited by morphin -- 5/28/2020 1:46:33 PM >

(in reply to Andy Mac)

Post #: 33

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/28/2020 2:01:47 PM

Andy Mac

Posts: 15222
Joined: 5/12/2004
From: Alexandria, Scotland
Status: offline

Depending on the level of difficulty you want

Scenario 1 - Very Very Easy
Scenario 2 - Very Easy
Scenario 10 - Easy
Scenario 22 - Normal
Scenario 21 - Narmal to Hard

All on normal difficulty

Increase game difficulty will increase above

Also HR's can make it more interesting when I play scen 21 for 1st 30 days I am only allowed to issue 1 order per day i.e. move one TF or create one TF or move one sqn

Makes life interesting !!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: Timotheus

quote:

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

FAA DaBabesLight is a great scenario and the guys put a lot of effort into it and it is definitely playable v the AI but it is basically scenario 1 ie historical and I would never recommend playing the AI on any version of scen 1 - to be effective in that scenario the AI has to do everything right and a scripted AI simply cannot do that v a player

Andy

Good timing.
I just posted a rambling question but let me ask here also:
For Japan AI, to be a challenge to a mediocre player like me (historical is not a challenge, scen 023 AI did not take Palembang ever), it has to be ironman, correct?

Go with Ironman Allied?
Did you go overboard insane with Ironman 2 scenario as a challenge?

Thanks for all your work in this game, much appreciated

(in reply to Timotheus)

Post #: 34

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/28/2020 3:31:59 PM

morphin

Posts: 572
Joined: 4/26/2002
From: Switzerland
Status: offline

Andy and for Allied AI Side?

What would you say?

Scenario 1 - Very Very Easy
Scenario 2 - Very Easy
Scenario 17 Regange of the Dornieres 2012 Normal??
Scenario 17 Revenge of the Dornieres Ironman Nasty Tier 2 2012 Normal to Hard??
Scenario 17 Revenge of the Dornieres Ironman Nasty Nasty Tier 3 2012 Hard??
Scenario 17 Revenge of the Dornieres Ironman newest one from you (not received yet!)
Scenario 33 New Scenario 1 from 2015 ?????

Thank's
Andy

< Message edited by morphin -- 5/28/2020 3:35:31 PM >

(in reply to Andy Mac)

Post #: 35

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/28/2020 4:24:01 PM

Andy Mac

Posts: 15222
Joined: 5/12/2004
From: Alexandria, Scotland
Status: offline

Urrrg morphin too much too many scnearios arrrrgh

At present all I maintaining is

Scenario 1 - Very Very Easy
Scenario 2 - Very Easy
Scneario 17 - (per the main scenario thread and I am doing an update to it but effectively its a tier 3 scenario)

I abandoned the easier versions

(in reply to morphin)

Post #: 36

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/28/2020 8:00:51 PM

Kull

Posts: 2625
Joined: 7/3/2007
From: El Paso, TX
Status: offline

Play Scenario 1 with Turn Cycle set to "4" and it is not so easy!

_____________________________

AE-Japan Setup

AE-Allied Setup

Japan Air-Engine Plan

(in reply to Andy Mac)

Post #: 37

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/29/2020 3:43:00 PM

Alfred

Posts: 6685
Joined: 9/28/2006
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Timotheus

...For Japan AI, to be a challenge to a mediocre player like me (historical is not a challenge, scen 023 AI did not take Palembang ever), it has to be ironman, correct?

Go with Ironman Allied?
Did you go overboard insane with Ironman 2 scenario as a challenge?...

Time and time this question is asked. It really is pointless. It is not the specific script, not the particular scenario which matters. Any scenario/script (yes even Nast Nasty Tier 3) will cease to be competitive if the Allied human player focuses on stopping at all cost computer Japan from capturing in 1942 these bases:

1. Singapore
2. Manila
3. Clark Field
4. Bataan
5. Palembang
6. Batavia
7. Soerbaja
8. Rangoon
9. Mandalay
10.Rabaul

These bases are absolutely essential for any computer script.

Not quite essential but still of great assistance in maintaining a competitive AI player is for these bases to also be captured by the computer.

11. Port Blair
12. Port Moresby
13. Tarawa
14. Shortlands
16. Lunga
17. Akyab

All these bases (with the exception of Port Moresby) were historically captured by Japan, and it wasn't enough to make Japan really competitive in the war. Why do human Allied players believe that denying the computer these bases will allow the AI to remain competitive when the real life Japan with these bases wasn't competitive.

Alfred

(in reply to Timotheus)

Post #: 38

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/29/2020 6:50:30 PM

morphin

Posts: 572
Joined: 4/26/2002
From: Switzerland
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

Play Scenario 1 with Turn Cycle set to "4" and it is not so easy!

You play against Japan AI?

(in reply to Kull)

Post #: 39

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/29/2020 10:05:35 PM

Kull

Posts: 2625
Joined: 7/3/2007
From: El Paso, TX
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: morphin

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

Play Scenario 1 with Turn Cycle set to "4" and it is not so easy!

You play against Japan AI?

Yep

_____________________________

AE-Japan Setup

AE-Allied Setup

Japan Air-Engine Plan

(in reply to morphin)

Post #: 40

RE: Nonsensical AI - 5/30/2020 9:06:24 AM

Sardaukar

Posts: 9847
Joined: 11/28/2001
From: Finland/Israel
Status: offline

While not fan of PBEM, AI cannot compete like human idiot can

_____________________________

"To meaningless French Idealism, Liberty, Fraternity and Equality...we answer with German Realism, Infantry, Cavalry and Artillery" -Prince von B�lov, 1870-