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Has anyine ever updated the manual? - 6/3/2020 2:42:01 PM

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There are so many questions that are not answered in the manual.
The US ammo ships in 42 Pyro, how many and what types of ships can you reload?
Best types of transports for small ports.
More detailed info on how sub tenders and so on work.
I am sure there are alot more but the manual is worded very Strangly Somtimes and it would be nice for an updated manual.
Is there one?

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RE: Has anyine ever updated the manual? - 6/3/2020 3:03:35 PM

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Best transport for small ports

Many thigs to consider here:

1.Possible VP loss versus cargo delivered

Port level 1 (max tonnage docked 6,000 tonnes).

You can use 3 x Australian 1000 capacity xAKLs, (tonnage about 3000 tonnes), Amphib mode, 2400 supplies loaded, total VP value of shisp: 3 VPs
You can use 1 x Australian 3150 capacity xAP (tonnage 3750), Amphib load, load rougly 2400 supllies, total VP value of ship: 12 VPs

2.Survivability of your ships

Small xAKLs/xAKs with 0.303 AAMGs (range 2000, ceiling 1700) almost NEVER shoot against aircraft/subs owing to lack of... range/ceiling. As good as unarmed. If you convert 3200 capacity Transmarine xAK you get an AG with DP/heavy AA in twelve days, and the new ship class fits easily in port level 1 with escorts

3.Experience levels of ships

Merchant ship exp at game'sstart is pretty low in 5-25 experience range on first turn. Always check if the exp of xAKL/xAK you want to use. Two ships may be in identical class, but one ship exp is 6, and the other one may be 25.

Hope it helps.

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RE: Has anyine ever updated the manual? - 6/3/2020 6:51:50 PM

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never though of looking at experience did not really think that AK would even have any. thanks.

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RE: Has anyine ever updated the manual? - 6/3/2020 8:01:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: jagsdomain

There are so many questions that are not answered in the manual.
The US ammo ships in 42 Pyro, how many and what types of ships can you reload?
Best types of transports for small ports.
More detailed info on how sub tenders and so on work.
I am sure there are alot more but the manual is worded very Strangly Somtimes and it would be nice for an updated manual.
Is there one?

The info you want IS in the manual, in the charts for port loading and unloading. They tell you how much ship tonnage (not load capacity) can be docked, the unload rates for docked vs undocked and cargo/transport vs amphibious. For very small ports, amphib unloading is faster than docking the ship, except for large items like engineering vehicles. The game abstracts having lighters available at the port to transfer things that are too heavy for the dock, but larger ports have more and larger lighters to help with such things, and sturdier docks for unloading.

There are also ammo reloading tables showing what capacity you need in an AE or AKE to load ammo for a given gun, or to handle depth charges, mines and torpedoes and bombs. Ammo ships can handle all types of ordnance within their capacity. Specialized ships like AS and AD and AG handle ordnance specific to subs, DDs and smaller craft respectively. Those specialized ships also help with minor repairs of their respective warship types. There are charts in the manual showing what support ships are for which combat types.

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RE: Has anyine ever updated the manual? - 6/3/2020 8:03:53 PM

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never though of looking at experience did not really think that AK would even have any. thanks.

AFAIK, crew experience and the naval skill of the captain is only important to avoid collisions between the two xAKs. For warships, crew experience and captain skill have a big effect on battle results and damage amelioration.

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RE: Has anyine ever updated the manual? - 6/4/2020 5:37:38 AM

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jagsdomain, if you play the stock scenarios as the Allies, here is a starting list of ships you can convert to big capacity AKE and AE ships

Updated stock scen001

AKE Ships
Total number of AKEs at start : 0 (takes 12 days to convert)

xAKs (5250 capacity,14 900 endurance) to AKE (4200 capacity)- CONVERT AT START

Goa: xAK Florence Luckenbach (convert in Bombay so you do not forget about the ship
Chittagong: xAK Robert Lucknebach (convert in Bombay so you do not forget about the ship)
Manila: xAK Ethel Edwards (takes 12 day to convert, can rearm CL Boise and CA Houston main guns once Manila falls) (convert in Manila)
Brisbane: xAK Nisqually (convert in to Sydney)
Sydney xAK Lilian Luckenbach (convert in Sydney)
Auckland xAK Liberty Glo (convert in Auckland)
Seattle: xAK Horace Luckenbach (convert in Seattle)
Anchorage: xAK Barbara Olson and xAK Katrina Luckenbach (move to Seattle, use Coastal routing, convert in Seattle)
San Francisco: xAK Cynthia Olson (convert in San Francisco)
Los Angeles: xAK Dorothy Luckenbach (convert in Los Angeles)
San Diego: xAK Exmoor (convert in San Diego)
San Diego: xAK Jacob Luckenbach (convert in San Diego)
Total: 13 AKEs

In transit:
TF 407: xAK Coast Farmer (in transit, in Pensacola convoy off Suva)

AE Ships
Active AEs at start: 2
Pearl Harbor: AE Pyro
San Francisco: AE Lassen

xAK (5800 capacity) to AE (5400 capacity)
We can convert five xAK (capacity 5800) ships to big AE (capacity 5200) � takes 31 days to convert

Los Angeles: xAK Henry S. Grove (convert in Los Angeles)
San Francisco: xAK Ruth Alexander (convert in San Francisco)
Anchorage: xAK Mount McKinley (move to Seattle, convert in Seattle)
Auckland: xAK Irenne DuPont (convert in Auckland)
Noumea: xAK Royal T. Frank (needs to be moved to Sydney for the conversion) - add AM Chevreuil as escort

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RE: Has anyine ever updated the manual? - 6/5/2020 9:18:00 PM

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Thank you very much for the detail. I am converting them when they get into a port. I am also going to convert some of the 5050 AK as well

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RE: Has anyine ever updated the manual? - 6/5/2020 9:34:54 PM

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Good stuff Yaab, thanks. I knew about the Ammo ship angle, but really like the AG slant, very interesting.
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Note that a planned conversion ship needs to be at anchor (not in a TF) in a Size 7-10 Major port in order to convert.

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