DesertWolf101
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ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101 ASW Altitude Hey guys, a newbie question for you - My opponent is starting to really encircle the Home Islands with subs, and I am bringing in ASW Air into play to help out. Assuming the air crew is well experienced and with high ASW skill, what is the optimal altitude for carrying out air ASW patrols? I came across a thread where it was suggested to go as low as 100 feet - is that the correct recommendation? Thanks! My opponent is doing the same, and my air ASW has been pretty effective at 2000 feet. In the first month of the war, he hit 7 or 8 Adens with torpedoes and sank 2. Since I put the 70-skill ASW pilots on patrol at 2k, he has hit 2 Adens with torpedoes and sunk none. If you have other search planes supporting with naval search set at 4K or below, I suppose you could go down to 1000 feet or 100 feet. It is hard to spot subs above 4K, and it is hard to spot anything at 100 feet, but if other search planes or patrol boats are detecting the subs, your ASW planes will be more effective the lower that they fly. I use Anns and Maries for ASW duty because they are easy on supply, which is depleted rapidly flying sorties every day, and because in DBB they carry 250 KG bombs. I seem to recall using Sonias in stock (it has been so long since I played stock). I like to break a couple size 27 and size 36 Ann units into parts and station the parts along my transport routes, especially the tanker routes. I generally keep one size 27 Ann unit intact for ASW patrols from Singapore. Remember that range is halved for ASW patrols, so Anns will only give you a 3-hex zone, and Maries and Sonias, only a 2-hex zone. Using Sallies or Helens will give you longer range, but a substantial increase in supply cost. Seems better to me to use more Anns, since you can put many more in the air for the same supply. If possible, try to have a group of patrol planes on night search at 2K as well, and a dedicated group of SCs or the like patrolling the area. Effective ASW is all DL. The higher the DL, the better chance of getting hits. I am getting hits in the PM phase fairly regularly (when DL is likely to be higher), but not the AM phase, because my night search, thus far, has not helped much. Be sure to upgrade all escorts to the modified type-95 depth charges as soon as possible. The regular type-95s are only effective in shallow water, and will usually "explode above the depth of the target" if used in any deep-water hex. Sorry, I missed where you took Manila. Well, he will be out of supplies in a few months then. He can bring some in by subs, but not enough to keep the island going. In addition to Lowpe's suggestion (which I am not doing in my game). I recommend putting one of the little Val groups that you get on ASW duty with a AF coy unit at a base near Bataan. Thank you, I will try 2,000 feet and see how that goes. I am also doing as you say and trying to leverage the plethora of float planes that the Japanese have to help out with search too. Thanks for the other tips too - I agree that the Anns in particular are great for the role given low supply and the 250kg bomb.
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