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Naming of air groups - 8/28/2020 5:27:03 PM

NiclasCage

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Hi again. In my list of air groups under HQa Fourth USAAF I've got a lot of units which have [S] behind their name. When I hover over with my mouse they also got (D) listed. I've just assumed that the D means that the unit will withdraw (I think they always have # behind their name when the (D) shows.

Can someone please tell me what the S means? And if I've got the D wrong, please feel free to correct me.

Thanks.

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RE: Naming of air groups - 8/28/2020 9:25:04 PM

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I believe [S] stands for static and usually means it can't be bought out with Preparation Points, and such airgroups can't be transferred to bases with a different HQ. However, if there is a [R] along with the [S] it can be switched to a unrestricted command with PP�s if the text is in yellow.

I have no idea what the (D) means.

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RE: Naming of air groups - 8/28/2020 10:18:41 PM

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It would be helpful to have a screen shot.

Are the air units you are looking at full squadrons? I think if the squadron is split up into more than one group, there will be a "D" for Detachment.

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RE: Naming of air groups - 8/29/2020 1:07:49 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NiclasCage

Hi again. In my list of air groups under HQa Fourth USAAF I've got a lot of units which have [S] behind their name. When I hover over with my mouse they also got (D) listed. I've just assumed that the D means that the unit will withdraw (I think they always have # behind their name when the (D) shows.

Can someone please tell me what the S means? And if I've got the D wrong, please feel free to correct me.

Thanks.

Are you certain you are seeing a "D" and not a "P"?

Alfred

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RE: Naming of air groups - 8/29/2020 7:16:25 AM

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Yes, as stated by platoonist the S means Static. Guess I'll have to use imgur or something for pictures, but I'll just post the pop-up text here for now. Both units below are part of IV US Bomber Cmnd (West Coast).

In the list of air units attached to IV US Bomber Cmnd they are written as;
39th BG/12th RS [S]#
and
41st BG/48th BS

When hovering over both names this is the text in the pop-ups;
39th BG/12th RS [S] (D)
withdraws in 59 day(s)
Returns later as a new group

and

41st BG/48th BS
Can upgrade to A-29 Hudson from Dec,1941
Can resize to 16 from Aug,1942

Both units are detachments of a full unit, so I don't think the D has anything to do with that. I have only seen this D behind the name of units set to withdraw. I also see that 41st BG/HqS# and 42nd BG/HqS# (both set to withdraw as you can see) don't have this D in their pop-up, but instead have a W. The three other HqS-units under IV US Bomber Cmnd have the D. Only difference I can see is that the two HqS with W instead of D have units in the detachment that are not set to withdraw, while the HqS-units with D have all parts of the group set to withdraw.

If anybody want to see this instead of reading my bad descriptions, just load up any main scenario and check the units under IV US Bomber Cmnd.

And yes, it's a D, not a P. :)

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RE: Naming of air groups - 8/29/2020 8:59:51 AM

NiclasCage

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Also, while I'm at it - what's up with these /HqS-units? Why do they exist, and why are they named like that?

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RE: Naming of air groups - 8/29/2020 10:15:34 AM

NiclasCage

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I think I understand these letters, but at the same time I don't. My hypothesis is that D stands for (set for) Disband and W stands for (set for) Withdrawal.

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RE: Naming of air groups - 8/29/2020 12:24:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: NiclasCage

I think I understand these letters, but at the same time I don't. My hypothesis is that D stands for (set for) Disband and W stands for (set for) Withdrawal.

Correct. Units that withdraw, remove their planes and pilots from the theater when they withdraw. Units that disband, send their pilots and planes back into the pool (or you can manually 'disband' the unit into another air unit with the same planes and nationality).

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