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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/3/2021 12:06:33 PM   
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18th Army is moving up to Leningrad. 16th Army advances where it can and helps hold the line. 4th PG has two hexes next to Leningrad under its control now. Unless I can cut Leningrad off it will not fall as it has a full grown city fort.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/3/2021 12:07:24 PM   
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9th Army advances as quickly as possible. 2nd Army is concentrating and getting ready to drive for Kursk. 4th Army is driving on Orel. Since both have minimal armor support they probably will not get there but they are moving the front line eastward a few hexes each turn. 3rd PG eliminates the pocket and starts to isolate Kalinin. 2nd PG is helping there and advancing where they can towards Moscow. The longer term plan here is for 9th Army to take over the defense through Rzhev and let the 2nd and 3rd PGs concentrate on Moscow and its surroundings.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/3/2021 12:07:51 PM   
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The 6th, 17th, and 11th Armies advance eastwards. The Rumanians are helping spread out through the Crimea. Two of the minor ports are captured and being repaired to help with supplies. Yalta is cut off from Sevastopol so it cannot help there. Sevastopol is now isolated and just waiting for the Rumanians to assault the city. 1 PG forms another pocket with 2nd Army and has spread out in the Crimea. The central panzer corps is holding the line while the 17th Army marches up for relief. The XXXX Mot Corps is now near the front and should be active within the next two turns.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/3/2021 12:08:15 PM   
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The Soviet Union Garrison is now at 121%. You can see from the map that the Soviet Partisans are under control. While there are still hexes that have partisan activity they are manageable now.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/3/2021 12:08:53 PM   
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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/3/2021 6:32:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		The supply loss going to the panzergroups is brutal it looks like...usually something like 30 % or more.
I guess its hard to reduce that when being forced to move forward at full speed.

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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/3/2021 8:51:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can you show us your depots and supply lines?

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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/3/2021 9:15:31 PM   
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Can you show us your depots and supply lines?


Carl posts the save filea after each turn. I highly recommend downloading them and exploring. I did so last night snd you can see how he does his logistics.

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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:47:33 AM   
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Working on improving AGC. AGN is bad but it will have to take Leningrad in order to improve.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:48:07 AM   
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The Crimea is a mess and the NAVAL PATROL lost interdiction of Sevastopol so it is no longer isolated. The rest of the front is improving greatly.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:48:36 AM   
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I adjust the Recon directives and remove the Ground Attack directives from last turn. I don't think they are worth it unless I go for both rail lines. I also readjust the Naval Patrol directive to concentrate better on Sevastopol and isolate the city again.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:49:03 AM   
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Still getting more than needed but it is close and the total supplies received is getting lower. A worrisome situation with bad weather just about here.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:49:40 AM   
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18th Army assaults Oranienbaum and reduces the fort level by one. 16th Army is fairly stationary holding the flank. 4th PG pushes further ahead and now has a spearhead only 40 miles from cutting off Leningrad from rail supply.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:50:01 AM   
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Rzhev falls to the 3rd PG while 2nd PG is trying to push east. 2nd and 4th Armies continue their drive eastward too. 9th Army is just holding the line.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:50:26 AM   
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Everyone continues to press eastward. The Crimea is falling fast and Sevastopol is isolated again. The Rumanians are gaining position to attack next turn and try to reduce some of the fort levels.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:50:55 AM   
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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 4:48:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thx. Great read

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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 6:39:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		The freight info is intresting but i don't fully understand how to read this screen. According to the screens provided by you in this AAR the panzergroups have recieved pretty much double or tripple the amount of supplies that they need during the entire campaign. Accordingly their supply stocks ought to be completally overflowing with exess supplies. But i belive that that is not the case...It most certainly was not the case IRL.

Should i read the screen something like this...

- Sup Rec...is the supplies arrived by train at the depots supplying the particular formation or did that amount of supplies actually reach the attached units ?
- Sup lost...Should i remove this number from the Sup Rec number to get the amount of supplies that actually was delivered to the units or did the full amount in the Sup Rec arrive ?




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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 8:48:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it must be that final supply received = SupRec - SupLost?

Otherwise 2nd PzG would've received more than double the needed supply, while fighting 100+ miles from the closest depot.

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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 9:33:08 AM   
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Otherwise 2nd PzG would've received more than double the needed supply, while fighting 100+ miles from the closest depot.



Yepp...these numbers are somewhat strange. Come august if not sooner the germans were having some serious supply problems IRL as far as i recall. These numbers does not seem to show this.
It would be most kind if someone who knows how to interpret them could explain...

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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:12:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Honestly I don't know for sure how to read it myself. I just know how to keep track of it for general trends. I THINK that the amount lost is not counted as received but rather it was wasted effort. I think this because my panzer groups all seem to have high MPs and good combat values unless they are well beyond the supply net (such as PGs 2 and 3 at the moment) and have had to send their own trucks back for supplies.

I checked the documentation and it really does not tell you much either.

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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:39:44 PM   
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Supply traces are getting a bit too long in some areas but I need the combat units to keep driving forward so it is what it is.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:40:11 PM   
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Things are actually looking better here than in the north. The ports in the Crimea are now active and helping out with the supplies.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:40:39 PM   
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I adjust the Recon directives and leave the Naval Patrol alone.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:41:01 PM   
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I think I can safely say that the supply net is working but it is at its limits at this time.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:41:30 PM   
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18th Army attacks Oranienbaum again and lowers the fort level to 3. 16th Army continues to advance on the right flank. 4th PG almost forms a pocket while advancing to the east of Leningrad and is now seriously threatening the supply lines to the east from Leningrad.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:41:59 PM   
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9th Army continues to advance into the Valdai Hills pushing back the Soviet defenders. 4th and 2nd Armies are also continuing to advance towards Orel. 3rd PG has helped stabilize the Kalinin bulge. 2nd PG has formed a pocket to the east of Vyazma and is now within 40 miles of Moscow. The Moscow government has fled the city.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:42:33 PM   
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6th, 17th, and 11th Armies grind their way to the east. 1st PG pulls out of the front line for some refitting and recovering CPP. The Rumanians, on the other hand, are celebrating another great victory as they take Sevastopol. The assault started with a German infantry corps from the 11th Army lowered the fort level to 4. Then an assault with five Rumanian divisions lowered the fort level to 3. Then an assault of the Rumanian Mountain Brigades storm the city and force the Soviet defenders to retreat. The three Soviet rifle divisions (yes that was all there was in Sevastopol) retreat out of the city and will be easy pickings for the Rumanians next turn. Yalta is also captured so it is a clean sweep of the Crimean peninsula west of Kerch.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:43:03 PM   
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The Soviets are still under 3M men so things are looking good for keeping them down. I am suspecting that the reason I have not had massive Soviet counterattacks is that the manpower is under 3M. But bad weather is coming soon so it will be important to keep the Soviets down.






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RE: Heading East into the Soviet Union - 4/4/2021 12:43:33 PM   
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The Soviets have lost over 3M men so they have lost over half of their manpower from the start of the war. 2M of them were captured. The Axis have lost 416K men which hurts some but is well within the historical amount.






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