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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/7/2021 11:13:05 PM

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So did he (Bismark) sow the seeds for WitE2?

Six degrees of Otto von Bismarck?

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/8/2021 12:56:15 AM

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So did he (Bismark) sow the seeds for WitE2?

Six degrees of Otto von Bismarck?

That's the ticket.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/8/2021 5:50:31 AM

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The GD still expands the boundaries of idiocy.

It's a nice outlet for them.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/8/2021 9:01:58 AM

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^

The GD still expands the boundaries of idiocy.

It's a nice outlet for them.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/8/2021 11:33:23 AM

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/8/2021 12:10:33 PM

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been following this since i saw it first posted, and my only thoughts on, being one of the early testers on it, is,....

why not?

there are others of the same type, WITE, WITW, WITP etc, but if you already own any of these, then your already into epic games and struggles, which this is just the latest and imo the best version to date.

for a short answer

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/8/2021 4:16:43 PM

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Some other stuff that started as a Regiment and ended as a Corps

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/8/2021 5:41:11 PM

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been following this since i saw it first posted, and my only thoughts on, being one of the early testers on it, is,....

why not?

there are others of the same type, WITE, WITW, WITP etc, but if you already own any of these, then your already into epic games and struggles, which this is just the latest and imo the best version to date.

for a short answer

Well. I own all three of those titles, and I suspect warspite1 own them as well. And I am pretty sure that neither of us have played them. So that might be a reason to not get the latest game of that type.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 12:42:45 AM

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Thanks to those who made meaningful contributions to this thread - whether for or against.

I have decided to pull the trigger and will be attempting a game with AllenK as soon as we get SCWaW finished. I hope it proves more successful than WITP-AE, but am encouraged by what Zovs and Loki have said in particular about being able to automate a lot of 'stuff' and then being able to change settings as and when comfortable to do so.

I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 2:38:24 AM

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Thanks to those who made meaningful contributions to this thread - whether for or against.

I have decided to pull the trigger and will be attempting a game with AllenK as soon as we get SCWaW finished. I hope it proves more successful than WITP-AE, but am encouraged by what Zovs and Loki have said in particular about being able to automate a lot of 'stuff' and then being able to change settings as and when comfortable to do so.

I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

(Applause) What is the Under/Over on the # of moves you complete before tearing out your hair and abandoning?

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 7:11:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thanks to those who made meaningful contributions to this thread - whether for or against.

I have decided to pull the trigger and will be attempting a game with AllenK as soon as we get SCWaW finished. I hope it proves more successful than WITP-AE, but am encouraged by what Zovs and Loki have said in particular about being able to automate a lot of 'stuff' and then being able to change settings as and when comfortable to do so.

I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

(Applause) What is the Under/Over on the # of moves you complete before tearing out your hair and abandoning?

warspite1

1?

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 7:14:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: Zorch

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thanks to those who made meaningful contributions to this thread - whether for or against.

I have decided to pull the trigger and will be attempting a game with AllenK as soon as we get SCWaW finished. I hope it proves more successful than WITP-AE, but am encouraged by what Zovs and Loki have said in particular about being able to automate a lot of 'stuff' and then being able to change settings as and when comfortable to do so.

I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

(Applause) What is the Under/Over on the # of moves you complete before tearing out your hair and abandoning?

warspite1

1?

Question on betting on the number of moves you make before abandoning the game. I think.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 7:16:02 AM

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1?

"1?"?

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 7:32:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Zorch

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thanks to those who made meaningful contributions to this thread - whether for or against.

I have decided to pull the trigger and will be attempting a game with AllenK as soon as we get SCWaW finished. I hope it proves more successful than WITP-AE, but am encouraged by what Zovs and Loki have said in particular about being able to automate a lot of 'stuff' and then being able to change settings as and when comfortable to do so.

I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

(Applause) What is the Under/Over on the # of moves you complete before tearing out your hair and abandoning?

warspite1

1?

Question on betting on the number of moves you make before abandoning the game. I think.

warspite1

Yes I know and I answered 1. It's answered with a question mark as I can't say that with any certainty as I haven't tried the game yet. But its a good proxy based on how long I lasted with WITP-AE.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 7:47:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zorch

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thanks to those who made meaningful contributions to this thread - whether for or against.

I have decided to pull the trigger and will be attempting a game with AllenK as soon as we get SCWaW finished. I hope it proves more successful than WITP-AE, but am encouraged by what Zovs and Loki have said in particular about being able to automate a lot of 'stuff' and then being able to change settings as and when comfortable to do so.

I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

(Applause) What is the Under/Over on the # of moves you complete before tearing out your hair and abandoning?

warspite1

1?

Question on betting on the number of moves you make before abandoning the game. I think.

warspite1

Yes I know and I answered 1. It's answered with a question mark as I can't say that with any certainty as I haven't tried the game yet. But its a good proxy based on how long I lasted with WITP-AE.

Ah. I was to focused on the Under/Over part to get that.

One is the number I lasted in all of the three older games mentioned in this thread.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 9:04:55 AM

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I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

glad to have helped inform your purchase choice

but, serious advice, don't rush into the campaign. Even with the AI-help, the superbly written manual (

) and the very neat one page guides there is too much going on to get much out of it as a first go. Use the Road to Leningrad scenario as a test bed, its (rightly) hard for the Axis to get beyond a draw but you are moving say 20-25 counters a turn, the air war is fairly linear and if it goes wrong ... well restart with no great time commitment

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 9:08:13 AM

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I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

glad to have helped inform your purchase choice

but, serious advice, don't rush into the campaign. Even with the AI-help, the superbly written manual () and the very neat one page guides there is too much going on to get much out of it as a first go. Use the Road to Leningrad scenario as a test bed, its (rightly) hard for the Axis to get beyond a draw but you are moving say 20-25 counters a turn, the air war is fairly linear and if it goes wrong ... well restart with no great time commitment

warspite1

Yes we've decided to each have a go at one of the intro scenarios first in order to try and understand what the hell is going on

before getting the campaign underway.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 10:23:54 AM

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No. Go for the full 41 campaign as the Russians. And don't read the manual, that's a form of cheating.

Net result? - I lost after half a turn.
No sooner did I press go or play and without even being able to look at the map I was under attack and my poor little laptop whirred and puffed for about 15 minutes of processing.
So I started up another laptop and played nice Ageod's AJE - Birth of Rome instead.

Will try again after my manual arrives.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 10:45:01 AM

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I don't know which side I will be yet - but am looking forward to getting started and will be doing an AAR.

glad to have helped inform your purchase choice

but, serious advice, don't rush into the campaign. Even with the AI-help, the superbly written manual () and the very neat one page guides there is too much going on to get much out of it as a first go. Use the Road to Leningrad scenario as a test bed, its (rightly) hard for the Axis to get beyond a draw but you are moving say 20-25 counters a turn, the air war is fairly linear and if it goes wrong ... well restart with no great time commitment

warspite1

Yes we've decided to each have a go at one of the intro scenarios first in order to try and understand what the hell is going on before getting the campaign underway.

There are lots of YouTube and Twitch videos to get you started on the road to disillusionment.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 11:11:20 AM

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in order to try and understand what the hell is going on before getting the campaign underway.

This has always worked for me: do follow real life high level commanders (Stavka, OKH). Knowing what they did is always a plus.

As a Soviet, during Barbarossa, my advice: do NOT stack, avoid thick carpet spamming behind the frontline, use *consecutive* defensive lines. Fight and survive (many will be left behind, it's the price you need to pay).

Concentration and economy of forces that is. With thick carpets and stacking you won't have the latter

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/9/2021 12:32:12 PM

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/11/2021 10:53:30 AM

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because you like Wargames and are infact a Wargamer.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/11/2021 11:49:37 AM

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Don't forgot the 1 page guides very helpful. Also, you don't have to read the entire manual front to back. I think you can use F5 and search for whatever step/phase or place your at and just read on that for you need to know, that way you can slowly build up without overloading your self.

Really good idea on doing the small scenarios first to get the hang / feel.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/12/2021 3:14:54 PM

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because you like Wargames and are infact a Wargamer.

warspite1

Well that is a matter of opinion

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/12/2021 3:46:14 PM

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because you like Wargames and are infact a Wargamer.

warspite1

Well that is a matter of opinion

Because you like history and would like to see if you could have done it better!

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/13/2021 9:49:01 AM

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Come on guys, sell it to me.

First thing's first though, because this is a deal-breaker (regardless of whether the game is good or not); is it like WITP-AE where the font of so much key information is written so that it looks like you are viewing Pluto using a telescope the wrong way round?

I am a gentleman of a certain age. I want to play a wargame. I don't want a headache after five minutes of intense squinting.

Thank-you.

Well, the truth is only sissy bois play WITE1 these days...

That's why.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/14/2021 7:42:25 PM

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Well, if you should decide to buy, then make sure to order the physical version like I did. Take a look...

My new manual

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 5/14/2021 7:56:55 PM

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Come on guys, sell it to me.

First thing's first though, because this is a deal-breaker (regardless of whether the game is good or not); is it like WITP-AE where the font of so much key information is written so that it looks like you are viewing Pluto using a telescope the wrong way round?

I am a gentleman of a certain age. I want to play a wargame. I don't want a headache after five minutes of intense squinting.

Thank-you.

Well, the truth is only sissy bois play WITE1 these days... That's why.

There is no need to try to insult people here.

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2? - 6/4/2021 10:19:39 PM

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The GD Brains Trust in full effect.

Bloody hell...

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