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SCORES!!!!! - 11/21/2004 7:49:23 AM

Luskan

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Overdue, but promised, here they are, the tallies for now. But before I do, we had a quiet turn out in the pacific, with 2 or 3 of Raver's torpedoed transports going down.

Halfway through June, I can say I'm doing better than historically everywhere except Burma, where I should be marauding throught he jungle. Not yet however. My fleet is intact, my air arm is probably the most lethal combination of high morale and really high experience in any jap airforce in the history of my WITP games, so much so I'm using zeroes for second string pilots to train with - my rtainers at Pagan showed the rookies how to shoot down mitchell bombers this turn, wiping 5 of them out without loss over Pagan.

So the format of this sunk ship list is: Allied Losses/Jap Losses

BB 5/0 Smiles all around.
CV 0/0
CVL 1/0
CVE 0/0
AP 20/6
AK 74/9 (this stat rocks)
PC 0/2 Raver is ahead by 2 here!
PG 3/2
ML 3/0
DD 26/15
CA 2/1
CL 2/3 Damnit! Another one where Raver is ahead!
SS 14/39 Yeah well . . .
CLAA 3/0
AV 1/0
MSW 7/6
TK 4/7 That's 4 that Raver is ahead.
AO 3/0
PT 19/0
AS 4/0

Total Allied ships sunk = 186, giving me 2511 points.
Total Jap ships sunk - 90, giving Raver 813 points.

Base points: Allies 3037 Japs 3261 - to win this game I'm going to need to fix this in a hurry. Which is why my engineer armies are runnig round building like crazy, and i'm planning a few choice invasions to put this number over the top.

Planes lost allies: 1168 japs 749. Should be better at this stage of the game.

Air to air allies lost 341 japs lost 251
On the ground: allies lost 394 japs lost 85
Flak allies lost 108 japs lost 244
Op losses allies lost 265 japs lost 169

Army loss points - this is where I've kicked major ass - and I'm hoping to keep my lead until Raver's chinese units hit the front in force:
Allies have lost 7448 army points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Japs have lost 181 army points - most of these in the siege of Singapore.

There it is ladies and gents. I have a couple of little ops and 2 big ones going at the moment, but I won't give them a red or green light until Raver shows his hand.

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RE: SCORES!!!!! - 11/21/2004 8:32:32 AM

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You've both lost an insane number of subs but part of that is attributable to absolutely no operations restrictions on naval units in a naval game.

But 39 Jap subs!? We keep ringing the church bell but the gods will not listen.

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 11/21/2004 8:43:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: Luskan

The fact that this game is so enjoyable even though started prior to release is a testament to the quality of the product. Every other game I've had my hands on prior to release (and in some cases, after release) wouldn't have cut it.

Well, I've lost two PBEMs, on June 42 and another August 42. That's two for two. Both post release. One had an LCU lockup in Java and the other my opponent said the map replays were all screwy. In both cases the games are a bust. That's alot of effort for nothing. These should really have been caught in beta but we can't catch everything with a game this size.

How forgiving have you been? That is, there must have been some issues which did not really effect your game but were troublesome nonetheless. In my game with the LCU lockup, I even evacuated the base for my opponent to enter and his units would not move. In that case, the product did not cut it.

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Witches and VooDoo - 11/21/2004 12:22:29 PM

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Well the backroom boys have been using witches and voodoo to read tea-leafs, look at chicken blood and watching for a twoheaded cow to be born, and they are 50% adamant that Luskan and his yellow horde will make a move on India.

Now this really puts my nuts in a vice as I am fully committed to Burma and if Luskan even thinks that I am pulling troops out he will pounce like a cat on a mouse.........which leaves India rather exposed. I have three A class divisions sunning themselves in India and a further rag-tag band of B and C class Divs as well as various Bdes......total strength covering India is around 7 Divisons, and they are thinly spread.

I am now toying with the idea of bringing in troops form other parts of the Pink Empire to help shore things up. Canada has three excellent Bdes sitting on their collective arses doing bugger all, but they are on the other side of the Pacific. New Zealand now has close to six Bdes, but they are at the moment fully committed in the south pacific, which brings me to the Aussies. Oz is now well placed to defend herself and indeed even has a sizable amount of troops in PNG, but there is little interest coming out of Canberra in the plan to send Aussie troops to India, for some reason the Aussie PM is still miffed over the loss of Singapore and the capture of 2 Aussie Bdes. But the Aussies are the closest, so it looks like I am going to have to put on my diplomats hat and start some horse trading.
It is so lonely being at the top.

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 11/21/2004 12:36:43 PM

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Well considering how many rebuilds Luskan and I have been through....4 or 5 IIRC....I am very happy with the resilience of the game. SUre we b0th see som3 fuNny and str@nge things, as an example there is a IJN sub off the coast (east) of OZ and when I pass the curser over it I am told that it is jap AK

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But that is to be expected going from a beta pre release right through to 1.3. The game is still VERY stable and playable. and even if the sea was red and all of my subs suddenly started sinking to ijn single ship AP TFs I would STILL contiune to play because I can not rest until I have nailed Luskan's yellow skin to the barn door !

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 11/21/2004 12:59:48 PM

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The only real problem issues I have encountered are the retreat paths are a bit screwy, and I inherited an empty squadron of blenheims at the fall of KL (although this was reported and fixed for all other games).

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 11/24/2004 8:57:27 PM

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So what does happen to those squadrons. Obviouly theyre not reinforced. Do they fly? Do the pilot namwes change to Japanese? Honestly, out of all the bugs, this one has to be the coolest.

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 11/28/2004 2:09:00 AM

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have we seen the last of this AAR?

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 11/29/2004 3:41:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

So what does happen to those squadrons. Obviouly theyre not reinforced. Do they fly? Do the pilot namwes change to Japanese? Honestly, out of all the bugs, this one has to be the coolest.

Heh. Maybing Goering is with the Jap air force?

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"Das Spitfeuer!"

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 12/2/2004 1:14:20 PM

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This AAR sure isn't over - just that coming up to Xmas is crazy for me as I work in the booze industry in Oz. Makes my life crazy - most days I'm at work at 6.45am and I leave about 6pm - 6.5 days a week. Just physically don't have time to do regular turns atm.

never fear however, my opponents are all standing by for january and the resumption of hostilities.

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 12/2/2004 1:28:23 PM

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Indeed! There is NO WAY that I would let the bananananana off that easy ! For months and months of testing I have been on the receiving end of his attacks. And now we are in mid' 42 and things are just starting to happen for me.......ships and tanks and aircraft and troops and guns and even butter is going online in vast numbers that it is making my head spin and my generals grin.

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RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight - 12/17/2004 1:59:05 AM

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Sorry, I just can't let myself say goodbye.

Bump.

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 12/17/2004 10:27:34 PM

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quote:

This AAR sure isn't over - just that coming up to Xmas is crazy for me as I work in the booze industry in Oz. Makes my life crazy - most days I'm at work at 6.45am and I leave about 6pm - 6.5 days a week.

I'm assuming New Year's eve and day are also times of heavy consumption in Oz. My condolences if you don't get a break after Xmas. (Well, at least Hanukkah is over, so the kosher wine lads can take it easy for a bit.)

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 12/18/2004 4:10:21 AM

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Correct......but don't forget the it is now summer up here, so for the next two months at least Luskan is going to be still rather busy, I am hoping the the rush will easy somewhat by the New Year so that I can finish tattooing his arse.

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 12/18/2004 4:31:07 AM

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I sent off a turn this morning - our first in a week or so.

It is true that I'm still loosing many many planes on the ground in Burma - but they are older models and I've got hundred and hundred and hundreds of them. I have a stupednous A6m2 stockpile that will literally never run out. Even now I've got a6m3s rolling off the production line and I'm desperate to prove that having so many zeros wasn't a waste.

So only a small cap over burma against Raver's hoardes, but he is pushing the range for the p40 and his fighters have to escort his bombers so my fewer planes a bit of an advantage. In the air to air stats I'm a little ahead - way ahead if you count the fact that there are 5 or 6 times as many allied planes as there are japs, but the stats don't look so good after the bastards bomb the airfields. My second string boys are learning to fight, pilot losses are very low, and the experience gains are manifest. Every squadron that converts from nates to any other type of plane at all will see immediate action in Burma as long as these results continue.

I took a gamble 3 turns ago (terrible place to ahve a break in play) and couldn't tell anyone about it because my ships were still well and truly in Raver's Zone of Control. I launched a little-big probe in force with lots of cvs and firepower just to see if Raver was staging an offensive on a certain part of the map - a part that I happen to know is an excellent jump off point for allied offensives. Nothing there -literally nothing. Nobody was spotted on either side (not sure if Raver's boys were even looking - mine were!) and my ships retired more thana little disappointed.

As for India. Well the broth is spoilt as Raver not only knew I was plotting something a little laterin the game than usual for a jap palyer to be plotting (in order to more thoroughly catch him off guard), but he has obviously expected me to try it since the start of the game. More than a little depressing as I get cold feet and change my mind about it 6 times a turn.

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 12/18/2004 2:46:49 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Correct......but don't forget the it is now summer up here, so for the next two months at least Luskan is going to be still rather busy, I am hoping the the rush will easy somewhat by the New Year so that I can finish tattooing his arse.

I hope he makes good stuff so you can have a nice x-mas "up there"...

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RE: Hey Bannana boy! - 12/18/2004 10:40:31 PM

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Yes all of the intel pointed to the fact that Luskan was going to try somefink in India.....he had a mass of troops that he was going to use in Burma to tie me down then after i had sent reinforcements he was going to hit me in India. The timing is just not on Luskan's side as my intel showed a huge mass of troops sitting in Singapore all dressed up and no where to go, so that kinda let the cat out of the bag, plus I am also an avid reader of the PZB/Wobbly AAR so I was looking real hard so any simular trick from the Bananananananana boy. My air power in Burma is now growing to the point where I can start to really hurt him.....the wellingtons are suprisingly good with a decent CAP.........and regardless of his claims that he has hundereds and hundreds of them I am more than happy to blow the crap out of them on the ground. But that than try and shoot them down while they are bombing me !

Major offensives in the Pacific are still in the planning stages with stores and rtroops being built up. Looks like Luskan is not looking in the right area

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/22/42

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 47
P-40B Tomahawk x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 22 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-15 Babs: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 21 destroyed, 22 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on 12th AA Regiment, at 45,25

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 16
SB-2c x 6

Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x I-16c bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Division, at 45,25

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 2
SB-2c x 6

Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
2 x I-16c bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

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Aircraft Losses - 12/19/2004 2:17:10 AM

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quote:

It is true that I'm still loosing many many planes on the ground in Burma - but they are older models and I've got hundred and hundred and hundreds of them. I have a stupednous A6m2 stockpile that will literally never run out.

Granted that you have the planes to spare, isn't Raver still racking up points when he destroys planes? (True, blowing them up on the ground doesn't hurt your pool of pilots so much.)

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RE: Aircraft Losses - 12/19/2004 12:31:18 PM

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I could care less if they are destroyed on the ground or the air....the fact remains that if they are destroyed then they can't fly and therefore hurt me.
That Luskan is crazy

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Strategic Map 23rd of June '42 - 12/19/2004 12:43:50 PM

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Well for those of you who have been with us from the start, I've up loaded a strategic map of where Luskan's evil empire has so far spread. As you can see he has made little effort in the south west pacific.
Intel thinks this is mainly due to the fact that he was planning to use the bulk of his forces hitting India, however the time for such a move has now slipped him by and I have taken the time to build PM to a size 9 fort with some 3000 mines and 3 plus class A divisions. Luskan's indecision has now cost him dearly, maybe even the war.
My carriers are slipping their hawsers even as I type, having been through their re-fits.......in the next two months I expect the focus of this war to shift from Burma to PNG as I start to make myself felt......Luskan will have to respond, but on my timetable and at the place of my choice.

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RE: Strategic Map 23rd of June '42 - 12/19/2004 2:34:55 PM

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Good AAR! I will read it with great pleasure since the japs now will get their asses red. Something that I can't see happening in my PBEM, yet for a while.

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RE: Strategic Map 23rd of June '42 - 12/29/2004 2:48:19 AM

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Right, well things are still going to be slow, but Raver's almost finished his holiday, and i've almost got enough time to resume normal play.

This turn: Obviously I've screwed up at Rangoon - 30 planes destroyed on the ground were mostly babs and dinahs but is starting to waste supply and airframes. Getting on my nerves to be honest. I'll be trying something drastic here soon.

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RE: Strategic Map 23rd of June '42 - 12/29/2004 7:25:30 AM

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Just to expand on what banananana boy is talking about........I hit Rangoon again....and I hit it bloody hard with 42 aircraft claimed to be destroyed on the ground and another 25 odd damaged

. The cause of all this pain is Mandalay, and I don't think that ratface is going to stand for much more of this. I would say that he will be launching a ground offensive against Mandalay as soon as possible. Thr trouble is that we are now into June'42 and this place is fortified and armed to the teeth, so it is going to be a very expensive op for him. Gee what a shame.

Of course he could simply respond with an air attack, but having just up-graded two of the Hurricane Sqdns based there to Spitfires, I am having wet dreams about him trying to close down the airfield.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/23/42

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ASW attack at 47,103

Japanese Ships
SS I-28, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Balch
DD Porter
DD Mahan
DD Dunlap

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 47
P-40B Tomahawk x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 23 destroyed, 17 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 16 destroyed, 24 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed
Ki-15 Babs: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 53

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 2 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 14

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4601 troops, 48 guns, 20 vehicles

Defending force 62256 troops, 599 guns, 0 vehicles

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Another day in the war. - 12/30/2004 8:44:17 AM

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Well little to report for today except that I sank a sub off the coast of Oz. Luskan has had at least one sub hanging around near Townsville for some time now launching his float plane and spying on everything along the coast. I have to admitt to getting really pissed off with this so a few days ago I sent some ASW DDs to sink it.....well I found it alright but got a torp into one of my DDs at no cost to Luskan. The next day dawned and once again the sub was in the same spot.............so I sank it.

But the ASW TF has reported that there are another 2 subs in the area.
I'm going to have to keep fishing.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/25/42

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Day Air attack on 41st Division, at 45,25

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 18
SB-2c x 15

Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 4 damaged
SB-2c: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x I-16c bombing at 2000 feet
6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
9 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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ASW attack at 47,103

Japanese Ships
SS I-28, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Porter
DD Mahan
DD Dunlap

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 58450 troops, 574 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 21113 troops, 72 guns, 32 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese ground losses:
455 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Allied ground losses:
161 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4337 troops, 37 guns, 20 vehicles

Defending force 61211 troops, 546 guns, 0 vehicles

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RE: Another day in the war. - 12/30/2004 8:51:44 AM

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I just noticed the Japanese never took Timor and some of the other islands. Are you going to build this up to attack his oil and resources?

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RE: Another day in the war. - 12/30/2004 2:05:28 PM

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Not sure..........I don't want to over stretch myself just yet. I have PM well covered and have units in place on the north coast of PNG, also I am well dug in on Nomuea and am making advances in the Solomans. Timor is well covered by LRB so if he makes a move here he will be squished................much like his obortive attemp to hit Mandalay in the last turn ...........have a look at the combat report.
Also I am still unsure of what Luskans future plans are......he has a massive buildup based in Singapore.....some 34 LCUs and well over 140 ships. This is a significant force which I must be wary of.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/26/42

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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 20000 feet
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 20000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 20000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-51 Sonia x 22

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 11 destroyed

, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wellington III: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Dakota I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4344 troops, 40 guns, 19 vehicles

Defending force 61462 troops, 558 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

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RE: Another day in the war. - 12/31/2004 2:52:45 AM

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To expand futher on my last post, in regards to Timor, the problem is as follows. Yes I now do have the manpower available to me to consider putting a sizable force on Timor, but I am still hamstrung by my inability to project power. Remember is is late June'42 and although the equipment strem is starting to open up, I still have a vast area which I have to secure before I can move forward. Also I still only have 6 carriers...seven if you inclued that RNs CVL. To be successful in a Timor operation I would have to use the CVs, and that is something that I am not yet will to do.........have a toe to toe battle with Luska's CVs...not just yet as the timing is not right.
Also I still have one arm behind my back with the lack of base force units. At this point in the game there are just not enough to go round so I have to husband them. Another thing that is still in crticle short supply is APs, I simply never seem to have enough of these ships and it is a major factor in my slow buildup.

Another thing that has to be asked is what are Luskan's intentions? While yes he has not moved as deep as other IJ players have done he has grabbed the key bases that he needs and could in fact do little else but sit and wait for me to make a move. His LCUs are all intact as is his airfarce and navy.....with the exception of his sub force. He has a lot of force sitting in Singapore which threatens to be used in an offensive in India....unlikely now but still a threat that I have to treat as being real.

China he has full control of all the rail links and is showing little inclination to move deeper into China...a smart move on his part, as it will be more expensive for me to attack him in terms of men that will be lost.

Burma, well he is still sitting outside of Mandalay and as I have said before, he will have to take it out as the constant air raids on Pagan and Rangoon is costing him dearly.....to the point where I would almost say that I am winning the airbattle. He WILL assault Mandalay but I would think that will be the extent of his push north.

DEI is almost fully under his control, with that last major battle for Java now being fought at Soerabaja.....but as has been pointed out he has yet to make a move on Timor. Maybe a SNLF force but I doubt that he will land in force or even bother to develope any major airfields or ports.

PNG Port Morsby is a rock, it has a size 9 fort and is ringed with 3500 mines as well as at least 3000 assault points ready to throw back any attempt to invade it. Luskan would have to land with at least 6000 assault points but would do better with 9000 as he faces crack aussie divisions well supported with very experianced fighter squadrons...........he will find no easy victory here. He may reinforce his current gains in the north west of the Island, but that is about it. I think that he will be content to interdict with betties and Zeros along with the odd bombardment TF at Buna.

Australia is now very secure, however i still can not rule out an attack and even limited invasion of Perth.....Luskan would only do this knowning that I would have to respond for moral reasons rather that for military, as strategically an attack upon Perth is simply a waste of time and energy. I cannot see Luskan hitting Oz now.

Noumea......this is built up to the same level as PM if not more and it is from here that I have already started my march up towards the Solomans chain of Islands.

The rest of the Pacific is static and he would be mad to try to move futher east than he already has....wake being to eastern most point. I dare say that he is building and mining like there is no tomorrow.

The North Pacific? Well he would be a fool to move there as there is little to gain, he knows that and I know that.......but it also works that other way as well......he knows that I would be just as foolish to try anything there and no doubt has been watching to see if i am indeed that stupid.

Luskan seems to have let the initative slip....he has not lost it so much as fumbled it. He has a small window in which to pick up the ball and run with it again, and that window is fast closing........'43 will be the cutoff date IMHO. Time will tell.

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RE: Another day in the war. - 12/31/2004 3:25:27 AM

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No it's much too early to think about a counterattack. I was thinking more on the lines of bombing his oil and resources using the airfields of Timor. Or judging by the map it looks like the Allies still control territory very close to Borneo and Java. Luskan has at least taken Bali right?

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RE: Another day in the war. - 12/31/2004 3:32:23 AM

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Well certainly the initiative slipped from my grasp. I stuck to my game plan - however I ahve a learnt a few important things for the next time.

1. Snatch Burma earlier. let singapore and phillipines wait longer but grab Burma. Has cost me too much pain.

2. Subs to be used only in border areas (as opposed to behind enemy lines). This will minimize tyhe risk of hunter killers asw groups (and also minimise their chances to change the war by torpedoing saratoga twice, Yorktown etc. etc.).

3. AA. Seriously, forget building little tankettes, build armaments left right and centre so you have so many AA guns you're using them as civic decoration.

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RE: Another day in the war. - 12/31/2004 4:17:53 AM

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Yes Luskan does have Bali, I think that it will be at least one game year away before I can safely think about starting to hit his oil reserves.

Pagan copped another pasting today:-
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/27/42

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ASW attack at 33,64

Japanese Ships
AO Naruto
PC Kyo Maru #12
PC Nichi Maru #1
PG Aso Maru
TK Kyoko Maru
PC Ch 23
PG Chiyo Maru
PG Chohakusan Maru
PG Kamitsu Maru
PG Santo Maru

Allied Ships
SS O19

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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 19
Spitfire Vb x 10
Wellington III x 70
P-40B Tomahawk x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-51 Sonia x 12

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged

Resources hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
1 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Division, at 45,25

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 17
SB-2c x 13

Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 3 damaged
SB-2c: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x I-16c bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
9 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Soerabaja

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4334 troops, 32 guns, 19 vehicles

Defending force 61589 troops, 563 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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