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Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/25/2004 4:00:16 PM

Yamashita

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Have a delay mission coming up with visibility of only 2 hexes, now this is something I've never done before & poses some problems it would seem-as well as some advantages. Any advice or thoughts ??

Also do fires create aditional light ? or just reduced vis due to smoke ?

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/25/2004 5:01:06 PM

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Any mission that has a viz of 5 or less, forget buying long-range AT stuff...get lots of MGs for anti-infantry, and buy lots of infantry/engineeres...anything with organic AT weapons. If you are facing a nation like Japan with weak armor and lots of infantry, buy foot units that have extra weapons, especially LMGs.

Fires do not affect visibility; all they do is add smoke to the field.

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/25/2004 5:04:31 PM

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Get infantry units armed with submachine guns, if possible. They can mow down full squads with one shot. Flashfyres advice is quite okay, imho

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/25/2004 6:34:41 PM

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Of course, you can extend the visibilible area with a good recon screen. I once outflanked a Polish force in a night action by finding out where they weren't.

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/25/2004 8:26:24 PM

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Thanks guys!

Will try to get plenty of infantry, with some SMG equipped units & recon boys. Going to an interesting fight that's for sure!

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/25/2004 8:56:49 PM

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You'll want a fast reaction force too. If you have HT and CS tanks you can really crush any resistance where it is found.

If you spread all the Inf and MGs evenly across the map to cover the whole field, you'll be screwed once the attacker punches through your lines.

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/25/2004 10:00:16 PM

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Where you can, double up your units, such as a tank and infantry squad in the same hex. You will smash attackers who cannot bring enough fire-power to bear due to the low visibility.

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/26/2004 12:32:56 AM

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Lots of good stuff thanks again.

Brun , yeah the fast reaction force is a bit of a problem as I'm playing Japanese & have no 1/2 tracks & the tanks are too small to carry much. Also makes it hard to rapidly shift the point of attack like you can do with German units.
In the low vis the infantry can double time it some, but basically I have to use the tanks alone as my reaction force if the different objectives i'm protecting are very far apart. Luckily the Russki's infantry suffers from very low morale, so they haven't been able to take out any tanks yet. Thanks for pointing that out I will have to think about where I position units pretty carefully.

Can't wait to get started! Banzai!

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/26/2004 12:37:46 AM

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Plenty of knee mortars will help. This should supress the enemy enough to stall any breakthroughs. Since you'll be dropping mortars close to your own lines, make sure they're small caliber.

You could also use alot of mines and barbwire.

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/26/2004 12:49:35 AM

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oh, another good point small mortars would be better if i'm liable to hit my own guys, hadn't thought of that.
You guys are a gold mine.

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/26/2004 12:56:48 AM

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Playing in poor visibility means lots of close combat, which is a great challenge in my USMC vs Japan jungle battles. I've learned to make extensive use of mortars, and I even deploy engineer units, supported by MGs, as frontline defenders. Goblin is correct in favoring stacking armor with frontline infantry. In these situations, you really learn to appreciate the killing power of Thompsons and other SMGs at 1-hex range.

The worst part is having an advance mission in jungle rain or storms, when your infantry is limited to advancing one hex per turn.

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/27/2004 11:57:43 PM

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Well it was a pretty ferocious battle. But not as good as I'd expected because the AI (USSR 39) sent all it's tanks in first.

By using recon up front I was able to pound their advanceing troops with 150 mm mortars & 75 mm battery. This further delayed the infantry & helped keep the tanks buttoned up i think.

The AI did sneek one BT7a around the map edge out of range of my scouts & about 7 turns into the game I was surprised to see the rear 2 Victory areas were in enemy hands! I managed to pull a reaction force out of the line ( I had already committed them) & pounded the victory hexes with arty until they could be assaulted. Fortunately the arty was very effective.

Accidently blasted one of my own eng squads who were pinned in a hex with a Ruski tank. There was so much smoke , flames & wrecks I couldn't see them & let a tank & another engineer squad op fire at the enemy tank. Confusion of battle eh?

loving those 150 mm mortars! Thanks for the advice!

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RE: Defending with Visibility=2 hexes ? - 6/28/2004 12:50:15 AM

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Yeah, those dreaded 150mm Mortars--these are what the Marines who faced them called "Pistol Pete". Heckuva pistol, huh?

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