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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/10/2007 4:14:16 PM   
castor troy


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How did that come?

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/10/2007 5:42:07 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		I shut down many of the factories because I had a big stockpile.
Increasing slowly to obtain a balanced production number.

More information would have been nice: Now consuming xxxxxx amount pr day while producing xxxxxxx.
As it is I'm completely dumbfounded when it comes to exact demands and output


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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/10/2007 5:54:13 PM   
Aterpa


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Status: offline 		I guess your tank units are now outfitted with the Type 3 tank? This one is almost a match to the M4 Sherman.

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/10/2007 6:16:50 PM   
PzB74


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Castor, guess you should be happy that Taiho has survived to become the last IJN carrier


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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/10/2007 6:36:13 PM   
castor troy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

Have to check that

Castor, guess you should be happy that Taiho has survived to become the last IJN carrier




I am!! So take care of her! Would be a nice place to receive the Allied surrender!!

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/10/2007 10:24:44 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		I had a massive outburst of annoyance when I watched this turn - all explained in the screenie.
Calmed down a bit, good thing I got a sturdy keyboard...

Can only say that I'm REALLY glad I denied the Bonins to Andy. He has still not 'earned' the right to
efficiently bomb the Home Islands and have to send in the B-29s from Wake and Thailand at the end of their abilities.

My tank regiments have the Type 3 tank ok!

Not sure how long the Taiho will survive, alone against 100 enemy carrier of different brands.
Hopefully she will take 1 or 2 with her. Putting a trained Zeke FB kamikaze unit on her, 50 ac. 27 Zekes will escort
them to their targets.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/26/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Numerous enemy subs are in the area around Tokyo! Time to get the broom out of the closet again...

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Sub attack at 65,45

Japanese Ships
AG AG-355, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Threadfin
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Night Air Combat

Finally an attack of my liking...nada damage!

Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 4
C6N1-S Myrt x 3

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed
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Daylight Air Combat

Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 27
N1K1-J George x 24
J2M Jack x 46
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 25
Ki-100 Tony x 18

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 51
F4U-1D Corsair x 32
B-29 Superfortress x 138

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 35 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged
J2M Jack: 24 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 27 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 3 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 7 destroyed
Ki-57-II Topsy: 3 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 3 destroyed
L2D2 Tabby: 3 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed
Ki-54 Hickory: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 17 destroyed, 5 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 7 destroyed, 33 damaged

Japanese Ships
AO Teikon Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Sakawa, Bomb hits 1
DD Momo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.11, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
278 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 52
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
17 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
1 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 91463 troops, 965 guns, 616 vehicles, Assault Value = 2135

Defending force 57275 troops, 502 guns, 147 vehicles, Assault Value = 1251

Allied ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 3
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Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 96904 troops, 626 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 2324

Defending force 49158 troops, 350 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 936 <- our defences have been reinforced!

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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One of my 'partisan' units is pushed aside!

Ground combat at 30,40

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 26647 troops, 193 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 680

Defending force 350 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Allied max assault: 1476 - adjusted assault: 2546

Japanese max defense: 6 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 2546 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
214 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Enemy raid on Tokyo

After cooling down from my annoyance I find comfort in the thought that the enemy is forced to
take almost crazy chances to be able to bomb Tokyo. If not for the incredible luck with the weather
Andy would have lost a lot more B-29s and his cv's would have been shredded by 150 kamis + naval bombers.




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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/10/2007 10:53:51 PM   
PzB74


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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/10/2007 11:30:26 PM   
blam0

 

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quote:

Any advice from you who don't read Andy's AAR: What should be done before the storm breaks,
anything I may have forgotten?


I would think that given the amount of resources at his disposal, he could send quite a significant feint in hopes of getting you to (over)commit, or just get chewed up.



P.S. Been reading this AAR for years...and I love your work!

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/11/2007 12:44:48 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Thx Blam0, nice to hear from and welcome aboard!

Will try not to committ 100% before Andy's next target becomes obvious!
Still, have to do my best to inflict casualties when the opportunities present themselves.
Not easy, today 70 bombers were all shot down by a small Uber CAP....

Used to opportunity to fret Andy out about the A7M2 Reppu. I can be an Evil Kanivel
Since I'm expecting issues with the A6M5-A6M8-A7M2 upgrade path, it may take more than a month before I get any Daitais flying Reppus'. Perhaps it will make Andy think again before invading our sacret ground

Here's the text:

From: John Leknes [mailto:]
Sent: 10 June 2007 20:52
To: Andy McPhie
Subject: Re: turn

The weather saved your carriers and less than 50% of my CAP fighters took to the air. Jap radar is broken and the Corsair makes me see red :p

Incredible that it's possible to hit targets with full effect when weather is too bad to allow friendly air sorties.

When I get the Reppu next week and the Shinden in June it's your turn to cry, and don't come to me for pitty <EG> ;-)
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From: Andy McPhie
To: 'John Leknes'
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: turn


NEXT WEEK !!!! WTF – so a spurious never was aircraft is going to blow the game out of the water – wonderful well my 50xp navy fighter pilots in Hellcats are going to have their hands full I guess…

I used 5 Sqns of Corsairs for the sweep because Hellcats and Wildcats don’t have the range (Corsair is range 5) and I needed to use Marines because if it went wrong I cannot afford the Navy pilot losses.

That was 70% of all Marines on board Carriers in a single raid but it was worth it !!!!
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From: John Leknes [mailto:john.leknes@lyse.net]
Sent: 10 June 2007 21:15
To: Andy McPhie
Subject: Re: turn

Yep, that's the way the game has been designed!

Designed to be the ultimate successor to the Zero, the Reppu held lots of promise and pilots commented favorably on the plane in trials. But poor engine performance, a major earthquake, and of course, B-29 bombing raids combined to prevent the plane from ever seeing full production before the conflict ended (three prototypes survived the war). Get a feel for what US Navy pilots may have been facing if history had turned out a bit differently...
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From: Andy McPhie
To: 'John Leknes'
Subject: Re: turn

I have no issue with a few Reppus because you have done a lot better than history my concern is if all A6M5 factrories upgrade to Reppu I will be facing a production of 600 – 700 per month of a fighter better than anything I have….

Now I am aware they use different engines so it may only be A6M8 factories that auto upgrade in which case I am less worried but if I am facing 1,000’s of Reppus then that is a Baaaad thing……;)
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/11/2007 6:12:10 AM   
okonumiyaki

 

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Status: offline 		Why annoyed - hey, it is 1945 and he is only able to pull off Doolittle type raids?  At great risk?  Cool!

To me the problem is fundamental flaw of asymmetric game design. By giving one side strategic as well as tactical options (research, production) the game falls down. Either both sides should be the role of commander who makes the best of what they are given, or both sides should be allowed some flexibility in production and research. As it stands there is no feedback loop to allow the Allies to counter Japan’s strategic choices, so you get frustrated players.
 
Plus odd to have a game with Shindens, but no Bearcats or Tigercats, or Meteors, Spear Fish and Sea Furies. Meteors weren’t sent to CBI because they weren’t needed – the Japanese were so beaten up at the end that Grants were still used in Burma in 1945, two years after they were obsolete in ETO. AFAIK, Tigercats and Bearcats were starting to arrive 3Q 1945.
 
Anyway, rant over. Just get the feeling that both of you are going through the motions, and not much enjoying what the game is "forcing" you to do.

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/11/2007 9:29:46 AM   
TimoN


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Status: offline 		Tip for repairing the aircrafts faster:

Split/divide the big group to three sub groups. This way the planes repair at least three times faster.

I am bit worried about how the Zeke->Reppu upgrade will happen. Hopefully you manage to build enough A6M8 before they all auto upgrade to Reppu.

This has been great reading so far. Don't give up even though it may be frustrating some times. Good luck!

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/11/2007 11:20:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: okonumiyaki

Why annoyed - hey, it is 1945 and he is only able to pull off Doolittle type raids?  At great risk?  Cool!

To me the problem is fundamental flaw of asymmetric game design. By giving one side strategic as well as tactical options (research, production) the game falls down. Either both sides should be the role of commander who makes the best of what they are given, or both sides should be allowed some flexibility in production and research. As it stands there is no feedback loop to allow the Allies to counter Japan’s strategic choices, so you get frustrated players.
 
Plus odd to have a game with Shindens, but no Bearcats or Tigercats, or Meteors, Spear Fish and Sea Furies. Meteors weren’t sent to CBI because they weren’t needed – the Japanese were so beaten up at the end that Grants were still used in Burma in 1945, two years after they were obsolete in ETO. AFAIK, Tigercats and Bearcats were starting to arrive 3Q 1945.
 
Anyway, rant over. Just get the feeling that both of you are going through the motions, and not much enjoying what the game is "forcing" you to do.



Totally I concur. I don't see anything worth of complaining regarding Japanese side of things. They are far more efficient than ever in RL in 1945.

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/11/2007 12:12:58 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Timon; I can't divide anymore airgroups! There is a limit on the number of groups that can be divided on a first serve basis.
Can ask Andy if he would be so kind to rebuild some of his groups - think he's splitting his bomber groups to make them less prone to turn back enmasse
when morale is low.

Guys, you have to be playing Japan in 1945 before you say there's nothing worth complaining about
At times it's mega frustrating and venting some steam at the forum is obligatory from time to time!-)

I took advantage of the situation when Wobbly overcommitted in Burma and captured India.
This put me in a much better situation than in RL. Alas, the Japanese side of things is much more efficient when compared to RL.
Imagine how powerless you feel when you have 3000 fighters and 2000 bombers and still can't protect your capital because radar doesn't work
to scramble enough fighters. 80 Corsairs on a sweep from a few small escort carriers is enough to shoot down half my Tokyo CAP flown by my best interceptor units and pilots.

Of course this is frustrating!! If Andy sent in a huge Essex group TF with 400 fighters things would have been different, but he can do it with
a few cve's!!!  

While the Allies don't get Bearcats - they still got the Corsair  

Game design is something we can't influence; Allies have their cons and pros, same with Japan.
I offered Andy to turn PDU on, but he declined. So his Hellcat problems I can do nothing about...afraid that he will simply gather 1000 ships and
bulldoze 250k troops ashore somewhere together with 2 millions supplies and fuel and establish an Uber CAP and start leveling all of Japans cities. 
There is nothing I can do about this, no matter how many ships and ac I got, as long as losses doesn't matter for Andy and Allied public opinion.

If I can't protect the Home Islands from being trashed despite the strong strategic and tactical Japan has, morale will suffer. 
Resistance is futile could be the slogan for 1945; not withstanding the current state of affairs for the Empire

Most of the time I enjoy WitP immensly, but irony and humor are important weapons for any Samurai struggling to get through 1945 in WitP!
Pretty sure Andy is also having rants on his AAR  

Questions: Must B-29s be within normal bombing range of the Home Islands in order to drop A-bombs, or can they do it from extended range? (Didn't think so)



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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/12/2007 1:18:15 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Checked all my airgroups and found that only 2 had been split.
Asked Andy if he could rebuild a couple of his and let me have half of the 'split groups'.

Does anyone know how many airgroups that can be split in a game, 8-10-12? I can't remember


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/27/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

One less sub to worry about...

ASW attack at 67,44

Japanese Ships
PC PC-194
PC PC-192
PC PC-190

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf, hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub attack near Tokyo at 66,43

Japanese Ships
AG AG-5087, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Steelhead
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Air Combat

Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 3
C6N1-S Myrt x 10

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 95

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 17

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 45
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
TBM Avenger x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 11 destroyed
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed
B7A Grace: 5 destroyed
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 25
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Long range super accurate 4Es from Marcus score hits on a cl! 10 sys, 10 fires.

Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Yahagi, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Keyaki

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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An unsescorted strike is slaugheted

Day Air attack on TF at 66,53

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 27
B7A Grace x 27

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 26
F4U-1D Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 18 destroyed
B7A Grace: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
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More long range bombers attack a fuel convoy at Pagan from Marcus.

Day Air attack on TF, near Pagan at 64,62

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 17

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AO Hayasui, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AO Shioya, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AO Notoro, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 66,53

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 7
B7A Grace x 9

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 25
F4U-1D Corsair x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 destroyed
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
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The 30 Oscars at Pagan decide to stay home and 23 Bettys take of to get shot down, not a single ac returned.
That's 58 bombers lost with 0 penetrating the CAP.

Day Air attack on TF at 66,53

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 23

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 25
F4U-1D Corsair x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 23 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 10 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 4 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
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Ground Combat

We try a deliberate attack tomorrow! Let's stress the defenders a bit and see what
their actual defensive power is. I'm expecting heavy losses as the defenders will have built
their own forts which have to be reduced first.

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 93585 troops, 984 guns, 615 vehicles, Assault Value = 2245

Defending force 56879 troops, 496 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 1248
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Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 97527 troops, 633 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 2399

Defending force 49324 troops, 350 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 949

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Return to the Bonins

I don't expect much, can't threaten the enemy unless we can get the enemy carriers away
from the transports....hmmmmm!




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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/12/2007 9:29:15 AM   
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I can confirm that playing as Japanese in the late war period isn't so fun as it looks like from the AARs. You know that i'm playing with PDU and i'm in somewhat better position. But once when Andy establish bases in the range of my main Malayan Afs i will be over - P-47 D are absolute killers, trust me!

It is not rare situation that i spent two hours on single turn - trasfering depleted groups, thinking what should i do to maximise my efforts, checking production etc, etc... i'm not complaining, but after someone experience situation like PzB did with HI raid he should get somewhat frustrated, i'm afraid. All effort, an hours spent for turn just to watch how your cuning plans failed......of course recent happening was heavily influenced by luck and that is a spice in this game. Sometimes you will be lucky sometimes dont.

Even when you inflict heavy damage to Allies, they just need to send new contigents of the CV(E)s, airgroups etc and you will be toast. Of course, that isn't something that JFBs should complain, but i'm only trying to explain the our position... personally, i think that PzB deserved Reppus and have some fun in the game after a year and half period when he tried everything he could to slow down enemy, taking heavy beatings and striked with kamikaze bugs etc....

i'm not sure does Andy and PzB have house rule about corsairs on CVEs - it looks bit stretchy to me.... Andy and me doesn't have such HR but i think we agree that they can be used at CVE at some point (i must check somewhere in my AAR where i posted HR) - since we playing PDU i felt that wouldn't be fair to limit Andy on 'historical' base when we playing a candyland game. But PzB and Andys game is somewhat different....

As for spliting groups, i think that maximum is 16 or 18...not sure about that....

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/12/2007 4:42:09 PM   
qgaliana

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
The 30 Oscars at Pagan decide to stay home and 23 Bettys take of to get shot down, not a single ac returned.


If I'd been assigned an Oscar in 45 I expect I'd be suffering from near continuous 'engine problems' as well.

Nice AAR, I will definitely refer to it when I take up the Japanese side one of these days.


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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/12/2007 6:36:28 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		CVE's were called 'Combustible, Vulnerable and Expendable' and Andy is burning them up at a hight rate <G>
Lost some 50 LRCAP fighters to T-bolts and Lightnings today. A lot of Allied LBA types are almost as deadly as Corsairs/Mustangs.

Thanx for the support qGaliana! Here's a morale booster screenie for all Jap fanboys
Owning 600 Oscars in 1945 is giving me personal engine problems

Who said the Empire is beaten: 300 Betty's massed in the Marianas strikes the den of the beast torching some 40 B-29s on the ground!
Not had time to play the turn yet, expensive one but it had its moments - like this one:

Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 284

Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed, 25 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 18 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
Mosquito PR.IX: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
1466 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 17

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 99

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
11 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
8 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
5 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
10 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
14 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
11 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
15 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
14 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
7 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/12/2007 6:54:27 PM   
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/12/2007 7:06:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very nice move but you should have bombed at 6000 feet. Losses to AA will not have been worse, they may even be lower, and bombers will score more hits.

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/12/2007 8:43:59 PM   
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two thumbs up!

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/12/2007 10:54:42 PM   
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Long time Fish, still in China?

Will reduce altitude next time Admiral!
The goal with my massive Betty strike was two fold:

1. To destroy enemy B-29s on the ground and hurt Andy's bomber offensive against the Home Island.
It will take quite some time to repair and replace damaged and lost ac and regain morale.

2. Force Andy to place fighters on Wake Island. This will reduce the number of B-29s he can operate out of there.
If I don't find CAP fighters there I wil send 300 Betties back Think I have some 400 Betties and 200 Frances, the latter
has a max range of 15 - the Betties stretch to 20! Most of the crews have medium exp and I doubt they will be very effective against CAP'ed enemy TFs. Losses will be horrendous.

5 days ago I sent Emily's on recon mission over Wake and they didn't find any CAP fighters. Didn't dare to repeat
the recon and give our plans away. Today we faced some deadly Black Widow nightfighters on CAP. Beats me why NFs were
on daylight CAP. A bunch of them tried to bomb Tokyo from Marcus today.

Pauk, Andy also wanted to ask me about releasing some 'splits' for airgroups. He was surprised that I only had 2.
He 'gave' me one today, I asked to be granted half of the 'splits'. Andy has been playing weel lately, it's mostly the usual
matters that concerns me. They kinda escalates together with the war.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/28/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Dutifully I place a sub in the path of the convoy approaching Iwo..kablammo!
Much more the hunted than the hunter.

ASW attack at 64,53

Japanese Ships
SS RO-50, hits 18, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*

Allied Ships - looks like a supply run!
AK Pierre Victory
AK Luxemburg Victory
AK Hastings Victory
LCI LCI-796
LCI(G) LCI(G)-540
MSW Execute
MSW Ardent
MSW Dour
MSW Diploma
MSW Device
MSW Design
MSW Density
MSW Devastator
DE McNulty
DE Leslie L. B. Knox
DE George A. Johnson
DE Doherty
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Another 'broomstick' attack!

Sub attack at 66,44

Japanese Ships
PC Amami
PC PC-104
PC PC-83

Allied Ships
SS Billfish, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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In the afternoon a huge enemy naval TF passes by the giant sub I-401 and gives
her a trashing. She will survive, but has to limp home.

ASW attack at 95,55

Japanese Ships
SS I-401, hits 14, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Black
DD Anthony
DD Ammen
DD Taussig
DD Massey
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Surface Combat

Our picket destroyer was easily sunk by the enemy....

Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese Ships
DD Keyaki, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
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So was a transport that had just finished unloading:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese Ships
AP Ryusei Maru, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
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..as well as some barges

Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese Ships
AG AG-116, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-117
AG AG-5032
AG AG-5069
AG AG-5090, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
AG AG-5117
AG AG-5138, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-5143
AG AG-5162, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-5188
AG AG-2088
AG AG-2529, Shell hits 37, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
DD Tingey
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
DE William Seiverling
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Night Air Combat

Andy wanted to show me how futile night bombing is against the home islands today.
We got a lot of night fighters over Tokyo, results are very meager to say the least.
Today they had to tangle with Black Widows in a night bombing role. The P-61's shot down
3 while loosing one of their own.

Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 24
C6N1-S Myrt x 56
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 14

Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 37

Japanese aircraft losses
C6N1-S Myrt: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 15 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
6 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
8 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
7 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 24
C6N1-S Myrt x 53
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 14

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

hits 1
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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 5
C6N1-S Myrt x 10

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 110

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 8 damaged

Daylight Air Combat

This is the biggest airstrike I've ever managed to fly of a size 7 AF!
Moved them in 5 days ago and rested them dispersed on all Mariana islands. Took two days
before they launched. Was afraid that Andy either had CAP'ed Marcus or that the B-29s were
away bombing Tokyo. Must be satisfied with the results!

Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 284

Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed, 25 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 18 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
Mosquito PR.IX: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses: <- this was encouraging!
1466 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 17

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 99
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3 destroyers that were patroling 5 hexes away from Iwo reacted and was bombed. Fortunately the enemy strike
was small. Escort carriers are mostly equipped with an Uber CAP...

Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
F6F Hellcat x 5
F4U-1 Corsair x 18
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
TBM Avenger x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Odake
DD Kaba
DD Hatsuume
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KAMI ATTACKS!

Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 24
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 16 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships - Yeah! Another cve is toast!
CVE Lunga Point
CVE Shipley Bay, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Shamrock Bay
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I sent the Taiho on a raid 5 hexes from Iwo. Hoped the enemy cv's would react but they never
even saw her coming. 200 Oscars were on LRCAP over the Taiho. She had 24 Zekes on 20% CAP. Again
the escorts failed and instead of 20 escorts we got 4....of course ALL attacking ac were shot down.
Conventional attacks is a waste of time and effort!

Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4
D4Y Judy x 22
B7A Grace x 33

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
B7A Grace: 33 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Second kamikaze attack targets the supply convoy!

Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 27
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1D Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 27 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Paducah Victory, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
DE Shelton, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
MSW Execute
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No Jap CAP over Bonin, would be suicide with Mustangs around!

Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 24

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 24

No Allied losses
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DEI

I'm 'smuggling' a huge supply and resource convoy from India - Java - Borneo - PI.
Placed a lot of LRCAP over the ships but the enemy T-bolts and Lightnings massacred them.
Splitting up the convoy is the best defense.

Day Air attack on TF at 27,54

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 24
Ki-100 Tony x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 6
P-38J Lightning x 9
P-47D Thunderbolt x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 6 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 5 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Uyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,54

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 20
Ki-100 Tony x 7
Ki-102a Randy x 4

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 20
P-38J Lightning x 29
P-47D Thunderbolt x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 21 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 9 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed
P-47D Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Okitu Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Nagato Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
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Ground Combat

This was even more painful than I feared Leaving the enemy to whither on the whine.
Our attack burned a lot of supplies and a large bunch of engineers are casualties.

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 119428 troops, 1025 guns, 616 vehicles, Assault Value = 2247

Defending force 56764 troops, 491 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 1246

Japanese max assault: 2436 - adjusted assault: 2790

Allied max defense: 1060 - adjusted defense: 1945

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
5611 casualties reported
Guns lost 112
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
568 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 2
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Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 98091 troops, 641 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 2462

Defending force 49907 troops, 362 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 962

Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
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Air Losses

We lost a lot of ac today, mostly because of our CAP effort at Borneo and out strikes
at the enemy at Iwo! The raid on Wake also cost us 27 Betties.

I lost the screenie of the enemy positions around Wake and the huge armada's of ships moving from Midway
towards Marcus. The strike group that ran over our I class sub was heading NNW almost due north of Midway.
This was no supply convoy, but a massive invasion armada! It could be a re-newed offensive against the Bonins,
or something else. Will continue to shadow the enemy. Now with 2 subs and 3 seaplane tenders. One of the latter
ended up 2 hexes from a massive grouping of enemy convoys and fleets. Everything from BBs to LCMs reported.




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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/13/2007 12:49:39 AM   
bbbf

 

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Status: offline 		North of Midway?  Heading NNW?  There aint much thataway except the Home Islands.

How are the Home Guard defenses?

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/13/2007 1:01:24 AM   
PzB74


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I'm moving more base forces to the Okinawas. That and supply movements is all that remains.
Impossible to strengthen our defenses further until we know were the enemy will land next time.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/29/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

ASW attack at 65,45

Japanese Ships
PC PC-221
PC PC-213
PC PC-200
PC PC-198
PC PC-196
PC PC-124
PC Kanawa
PC Kozu

Allied Ships
SS Threadfin, hits 11
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Night Air Combat

Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 7
C6N1-S Myrt x 27
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
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Daytime Air Combat

Bad weather clouded in enemy ships at Iwo - always luck that scot In the AM phase
27 Zekes took of but failed to locate their targets... One enemy cve has been dispatched from the TF and is
heading towards Marcus Island.

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Enemy carriers find one of our 3 Seaplane tenders and a powerful strike sinks her and the 6 floatplanes still aboard!

Day Air attack on TF at 94,51

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 45
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
SB2C Helldiver x 14
TBM Avenger x 46

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Ground Combat

We repulsed the enemy who got poor odds and our forts stay up, but we take heavy casualties.
Andy is moving troops from Hue towards Camranh Bay. So we are stuck inside a decreasing pocket.

Evacuating aviation support and cadre units of depleteed combat formations.

Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 125729 troops, 686 guns, 1280 vehicles, Assault Value = 2515

Defending force 48844 troops, 372 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 967

Allied max assault: 2288 - adjusted assault: 1111

Japanese max defense: 961 - adjusted defense: 2749

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)

Japanese ground losses:
3060 casualties reported
Guns lost 56

Allied ground losses:
1845 casualties reported
Guns lost 22
Vehicles lost 14
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Ground combat at 30,39

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 6674 troops, 50 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 172

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied max assault: 362 - adjusted assault: 726

Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 726 to 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Enemy Fleet Movements Cent Pac

This isn't a Sunday school picnic!




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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/13/2007 1:09:40 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Home Island defenses are strong Bbbf, but if Andy wants to he may find a weak spot were he can capture _one_ base
and insert his Uber CAP. Then I'm toast. Hope he doesn't do something like that

There are 5-800 AP and 9 forts in all coastal bases in Western - Central - Eastern parts of Home Islands stretching from
Formos-Okinawas to Sakhalin islands. Islands are of course most vulnerable. Has tried to do something about this.
Got 2 divisions an aviation regiments and various para and support units in reserve and 1400 pol points in reserve.

Somehow I don't think it's the Bonins again either, but it's either that or the Home Islands.
Any other targets and he would have chosen anoter route to the target....well, at least I would have


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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/13/2007 1:35:23 AM   
bbbf

 

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Status: offline 		If he comes, it will be in huge force after the Bonin's butchery.

He knows what landing against L9 forts is like.  I would expect at least 10+ Divisions plus lots of armour and support in a landing on the HI.  At least 4000 AV worth.

I think it will be the Home Islands - Andy is a risk taker and quite prepared to go in relatively unprepared.

Whatever happens, it is going to be a wild ride.

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/15/2007 1:26:36 AM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Last day in April!

Adolf commits suicide in Berlin - the Empire will soon be fighting the world on its own.
Tomorrow production of the Reppu commences!

That's true Bbbf! Home Islands is suicide choice for Andy, I can have 2000 AV in 5 bases within a week
and there is no base with less than 9 forts and 4-500 AS at the moment and I have boosted aviation support
considerably. Okinawas, Bonins and Sakhalin are veritable fortresses and Formosa is well defended.

Only the Philippines can be invaded and captured relatively easily because of all the bases there, can't defend them
all. A mobile reserve will move out from Manila to the invasion zones.

WitP does _NOT_ handle mega battles very well unfortunately. So I'm a bit afraid there could be much frustration next
time Andy wades ashore.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/30/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Sub attack near Tokyo at 66,43

Japanese Ships
AP Matsukawa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Steelhead

Japanese ground losses
30 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Sub attack at 48,46

Japanese Ships
TK Takekun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW W.19

Allied Ships
SS Capitaine
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Night Air Combat

Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 77

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 71
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Daylight Air Combat

Day Air attack on No. 115 RAF Base Force, at 25,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses: <- That's more like it!!
112 casualties reported
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Enemy carriers find a second seaplane tender and sends her to the bottom!

Day Air attack on TF at 89,56

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 59
F4U-1D Corsair x 36
SB2C Helldiver x 28


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AV Sanyo Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
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Kami hit % is nothing to yell about...

Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 26
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 19
F4U-1D Corsair x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 26 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 12 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Thetis Bay
CVE Munda
CVE Lunga Point
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A raid from Pagan finished the Shipley Bay! Another cve is gonners.

Day Air attack on TF at 66,55

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CVE Shipley Bay, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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A seaplane tender launches a small strike on the massive enemy fleets!

Day Air attack on TF at 90,59

Japanese aircraft
E7K2 Alf x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Navarro
AP Freestone

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x E7K2 Alf bombing at 2000 feet
3 x E7K2 Alf bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 66,55

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Charles Badger
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Kamis against cargo TF works better!

Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 31
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F6F Hellcat x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 19
F4U-1D Corsair x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 31 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 7 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Loma Victory, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
LCI LCI-796, Kamikaze hits 4, on fire, heavy damage <- hate this...have I said it before?
DE George A. Johnson, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
AK Rock Springs Victory
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Day Air attack on TF at 66,55

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied Ships
DE William Seiverling, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Vammen
DE Rolf
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Ground Combat

Driving an enem tank reg towards Hue!

Ground combat at 35,39

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22509 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 1840 troops, 0 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 57

Japanese max assault: 504 - adjusted assault: 404

Allied max defense: 54 - adjusted defense: 133

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 108016 troops, 903 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2380

Defending force 39957 troops, 231 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 804

Japanese ground losses:
737 casualties reported
Guns lost 18
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We re-capture Victoria Point Andy doesn't guard his flanks and must be punished!

Ground combat at Victoria Point

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7446 troops, 85 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 160

Defending force 1592 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Japanese max assault: 132 - adjusted assault: 142

Allied max defense: 15 - adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Victoria Point base !!!

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

(in reply to bbbf)
Post #: 4076
RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/15/2007 10:17:44 PM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
Joined: 10/3/2000
From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		Splendid weather! B-29s grounded at Hue and Marcus and enemy cve fleet is washed out while transport TF isn't.

1st of May 1945. We have 11 Reppus in the pools. Now we make as many we can while we wait for the A6M8 to go into production.
This is a bug as 'obsolete' types are not bypassed in the upgrade path. So I should actually have been able to upgrade my first Daitai
with the Reppu in 2 days

Enemy fleets are continuing towards Marcus Island from Midway. I don't have that many recon assets anymore as our subs are extremely vulnerable to
Allied asw.

Planning a cunning counterstrike tomorrow!

Let's enjoy Baldrik's song while we wait for the results:

Hear the words I sing,
War's a horrid thing,
But still I sing, sing, sing,
Ding a ling a ling.




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/01/45

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 8

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 2
Ki-46-III Dinah x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Camranh Bay , at 34,46


Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 6


Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46


Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 6


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-26B Invader bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Victoria Point , at 25,39


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 8
P-40N Warhawk x 14


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
14 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71


Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 7


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52


Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 39


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Jaluit , at 81,84


Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
A-26B Invader x 33


No Allied losses

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x A-26B Invader bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th Chinese Corps, at 58,23

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
23 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 48th/A Division, at 27,39


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 59


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
114 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 5000 feet
46 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th/A Division, at 29,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 9
Ki-102a Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 3 destroyed

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Day Air attack on 94th/B Division, at 29,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 9
Ki-102a Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-26B Invader bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on 94th/C Division, at 29,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 9
Ki-102a Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 3 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,54

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 11
Ki-100 Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AK Taketoyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 65,55

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied Ships
LCI LCI-799
DE McCelland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Woodson
AK Kingsport Victory
DE Leslie L. B. Knox
AK Clovis Victory
AK Salina Victory, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW Diploma, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Density

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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ASW attack at 64,44

Japanese Ships
MSW W.7
MSW W.20
PC Shonon Maru #11
PG Kanko Maru
PG Ikunta Maru
PG Akitsu Maru
PG Takunan Maru #3
PC Oga

Allied Ships
SS Charr

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ASW attack at 65,45

Japanese Ships
PC PC-221
PC PC-213
PC PC-200
PC PC-198
PC PC-196
PC PC-124
PC Kanawa
PC Kozu

Allied Ships
SS Threadfin, hits 9, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 110370 troops, 959 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2432

Defending force 30595 troops, 168 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 629


Japanese ground losses:
333 casualties reported
Guns lost 8



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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

(in reply to PzB74)
Post #: 4077
RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/16/2007 12:05:08 AM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		Hasn´t somebody posted recently that he got the Reppu first but there was no A6M8 production at the point the Reppu was available. Result was that the A6M8 rd autoupgraded to Reppu factories and not a single A6M8 was ever produced which meant it was NOT possible to upgrade any Zeke to either A6M8 nor Reppu! IIRC it was something like that. I hope for you that I´m not remembering correctly...

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Post #: 4078
RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/16/2007 12:37:09 AM   
Aterpa


Posts: 88
Joined: 5/7/2006
Status: offline 		This is only for the research factories. As long as the A6M8 is not avialable the Zeke production will not upgrade, also not to the A7M2. When the A6M8 becomes available the production factories (A6M5) will first upgrade to the A6M8 and then (at least one day later) to the A7M2. So in the worst case all former A6M5 factories will produce the A6M8 for only one day before upgrading again, but this should still be enough to upgrade all airgroup one after another.

(in reply to castor troy)
Post #: 4079
RE: Air raids on the Home Islands - 6/16/2007 4:35:46 AM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
Joined: 10/3/2000
From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		The plan is that all A6M5 factories first upgrade to A6M8 before A7M2. We have so many factories
that we should be able to produce 50 A6M8's that can be used as upgrades.

Has this been fixed in later patches?

Today we landed paras at Bien Ho and only bad luck prevented us from re-capturing it.
Our bombers hurt the Nz Cav Bde there and we lacked only a few AP to achieve a 2-1 odds.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/02/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Sub attack near Tokyo at 66,43

Japanese Ships
MSW W.21, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.17
MSW W.4
MSW W.15
MSW W.41
MSW W.28
MSW W.24

Allied Ships
SS Steelhead, hits 1
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Nigh Air Combat

Our night fighters were credited with 3 Black Widows and 4 Superforts today.
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 9
C6N1-S Myrt x 33
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 16

Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 39

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-61A Black Widow: 2 destroyed, 17 damaged

Manpower hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
9 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
7 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
7 x P-61A Black Widow bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 9
C6N1-S Myrt x 33
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 16

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 53

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
C6N1-S Myrt: 6 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 22 damaged

Manpower hits 44
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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 70

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 38
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Daylight Air Combat

Day Air attack on Camranh Bay , at 34,46

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Spitfire XIV x 3
P-51D Mustang x 3
B-29 Superfortress x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 68
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Our strikes in support of the paras:

Day Air attack on 1st NZ Cav Brigade, at 31,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 10000 feet
9 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st NZ Cav Brigade, at 31,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st NZ Cav Brigade, at 31,45

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st NZ Cav Brigade, at 31,45

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 15
P1Y Frances x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
20 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,56

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Aobasan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,54

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 6
Liberator VI x 6
P-40N Warhawk x 69

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102a Randy: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Nankai Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 68,56

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 16

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
F4U-1D Corsair x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 16 destroyed -> Uber CAP results again...
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Kamis couldn't hit a single transport. 2 DE's were reported sunk today though.

Day Air attack on TF at 67,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 11
G4M2 Betty x 12

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DE McCelland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Diploma, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 68,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 18
B7A Grace x 14
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 18 destroyed
B7A Grace: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Czech. Victory
LCI(G) LCI(G)-540, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Shelton
AK Sharon Victory
DE Silverstein, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kelso Victory
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Day Air attack on TF at 68,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 10

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged


Allied Ships
AK Honduras Victory
LCI LCI-799
AK Loma Victory
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Day Air attack on TF at 68,56

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Rutland Victory
AK Mercer Victory
AK Czech. Victory
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 92249 troops, 896 guns, 613 vehicles, Assault Value = 2025

Defending force 57659 troops, 524 guns, 153 vehicles, Assault Value = 1262

Allied ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Had to force march troops to Camranh to resist the enemy assault. This will leave Saigon
vulnerable, but our stand will last longer at Camranh!

Ground combat at Camranh Bay

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43439 troops, 566 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1127

Defending force 39002 troops, 262 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 522

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 8

Allied max assault: 1042 - adjusted assault: 762

Japanese max defense: 500 - adjusted defense: 1277

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)

Japanese ground losses:
303 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
1090 casualties reported
Guns lost 47
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 110962 troops, 975 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2481

Defending force 30709 troops, 174 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 634

Japanese ground losses:
490 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
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Ground combat at Kompong Trach

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4357 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 124

Defending force 5196 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Allied max assault: 111 - adjusted assault: 58

Japanese max defense: 89 - adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Bien Hoa

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 792 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 37

Defending force 2486 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese max assault: 38 - adjusted assault: 8 - how annoying!! 2 AP short of victory...!-(

Allied max defense: 9 - adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
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- Dwight D. Eisenhower

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