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Leaders - 8/25/2004 2:04:50 AM   
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using Caltone's leader spreadsheet i have a question?

here are 2 carrier TF commanders and their ratings



McCain J. overall 54 insp 53 surface ships 22 airops 75
Bellinger, P.N.L overall 64 insp 64 surface ships 54 airops 67

Which is the better Carrier TF Commander???
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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 5:23:37 AM   
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Hey gang, I'm waiting patiently in Nouma for orders on who to send out......

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:10:20 AM   
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I would go with Bellinger

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:11:41 AM   
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send McCain.

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:15:25 AM   
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I usually use Bellinger first, then McCain.

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:15:31 AM   
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I was just checking them both out in the file

I agree Bellinger is the better choice, in addition to the above stats he also has a slight edge in aggressiveness, something I want in my CV commanders

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:18:02 AM   
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And your reasoning behind these orders.......

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:22:24 AM   
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For me at least (and I usually play Japan):

If you look at the stats you listed, Bellinger has the edge in everything but airops where he is 8 pts under. Both men do have good airop ratings though, they are in the top 3 in US RADM's. While airops is a primary need for a CV commander, I think Bellinger's edge in inspiration and aggressiveness tips the scales in his favor. You are making a good choice with either man though.

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:22:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Caltone

I was just checking them both out in the file

I agree Bellinger is the better choice, in addition to the above stats he also has a slight edge in aggressiveness, something I want in my CV commanders


So, do you think "overall" is the standard by which Carrier TF commanders are picked? McCain has a better "air-ops"....How are you deciding?

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:24:24 AM   
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Think I snuck a reply in as you were posting gts, hope that's what you were looking for. Really you can't go wrong with either man, the other US RADM to consider is Spruance of course.

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:28:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Caltone

Think I snuck a reply in as you were posting gts, hope that's what you were looking for. Really you can't go wrong with either man, the other US RADM to consider is Spruance of course.


Yes, you answered my question. Its just a shame that we don't have a little bit more info. about commanders when "in-game" and trying to make a choice. Your spread sheet is a blessing......

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:41:17 AM   
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So far as I know, Bellinger never commanded a carrier, much less a task force during the war, much less put to sea. He does seem to have been one OG's of aviation in the Navy.

But, maybe you should follow the game numbers, where ever they come from.

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 6:44:56 AM   
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Yes, you answered my question. Its just a shame that we don't have a little bit more info. about commanders when "in-game" and trying to make a choice. Your spread sheet is a blessing......


Where is this blessed spreadsheet?

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 7:00:58 AM   
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Found it...

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 10:39:07 AM   
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Hmm Ineresting. Wonder if that is John MCCains father ? he was a WWII Admiral in the Pacific.

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 2:17:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: William Amos

Hmm Ineresting. Wonder if that is John MCCains father ? he was a WWII Admiral in the Pacific.


Pretty sure it is.

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 2:22:51 PM   
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Pretty sure he's his grandfather. His father was also a naval officer of some note.

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RE: Leaders - 8/25/2004 2:32:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: irrelevant

Pretty sure he's his grandfather. His father was also a naval officer of some note.


Yeah the McCain (John. S. Sr.) in the game is the Senators Grandfather, His father (Jonh S. Jr.) was IIRC CincPac during part the Vietnam war

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