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What Ship.......(5) - 9/1/2004 8:58:12 PM   
ctid98


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Status: offline 		'Class' was the most produced warship design.

I don't want to hear about landing craft, rubber boats or DUWK's!

Has to be a fighting ship design.

If any one else has questions please hijack the thread header and continue as I need more research.....

Answers on a postcard........

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/1/2004 9:01:01 PM   
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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/1/2004 9:02:33 PM   
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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/1/2004 9:03:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Type VII U Boat is my shot from the hip.


Our survey said - UH UH - X

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/1/2004 9:04:34 PM   
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HMS Crusier


The Cruiser class of 18 gun brig of war was the largest class of warship of their time. In all 103 of the class were built, from the Cruiser of 1797 to the Zebra of 1815. This class of ship played a very active roll during the Napoleonic wars, being used for escort duty, reconnaissance and attacking enemy convoys and inshore raids. As originally built the Cruiser had eighteen 6 pounder carriage guns but this was later changed to sixteen 32 pounder caronades and two 6 pounder carriage guns.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/1/2004 9:05:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sprior

Mine would be Flower class corvette


NOOOOOOOOOOOO..................

Indeed it was with 288 built according to my records.

I feel like the japanese in June '42, It had started so well but then went pear shaped!

There has to be a question to stump you lot!



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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/1/2004 9:10:52 PM   
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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/1/2004 9:20:30 PM   
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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 12:01:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		The most numerous variant of the Type VII was the VIIC with 591 completions.
The flushdeckers beat out the Fletchers with 280 completions, but that's divided into three classes, to be technical.
There were 502 YMS craft, 435 SC 497 class, about 654 Fairmile "B" launches, 6200 Shinyos....

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 4:31:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tiornu

The most numerous variant of the Type VII was the VIIC with 591 completions.
The flushdeckers beat out the Fletchers with 280 completions, but that's divided into three classes, to be technical.
There were 502 YMS craft, 435 SC 497 class, about 654 Fairmile "B" launches, 6200 Shinyos....


Totally forgot about the Clemson/Wickes class. Whoops. Interesting to see what the lad asking the question believes is correct.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 5:10:04 AM   
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some armament, you could make a case for the US Liberty Ships.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 5:19:17 AM   
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If you consider a "warship" to be one built specifically for war service and carrying
some armament, you could make a case for the US Liberty Ships.


Thought about that too. MORE DETAIL FOR QUESTIONS!!!!

Hey, Mike Scholl. How goes it?

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 10:31:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

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ORIGINAL: Tiornu

The most numerous variant of the Type VII was the VIIC with 591 completions.
The flushdeckers beat out the Fletchers with 280 completions, but that's divided into three classes, to be technical.
There were 502 YMS craft, 435 SC 497 class, about 654 Fairmile "B" launches, 6200 Shinyos....


Totally forgot about the Clemson/Wickes class. Whoops. Interesting to see what the lad asking the question believes is correct.


Sorry guys, right now I've only got one refernce book with me, I'm more than happy to be corrected and find out something new.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 11:58:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tiornu

The most numerous variant of the Type VII was the VIIC with 591 completions.
The flushdeckers beat out the Fletchers with 280 completions, but that's divided into three classes, to be technical.
There were 502 YMS craft, 435 SC 497 class, about 654 Fairmile "B" launches, 6200 Shinyos....


I'm going to be picky and say the subs are actually boats and I asked for ships......

Just wondering about the rest now, including my own Flower class!!!

Does anybody have the definition of a boat and a ship handy????

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 11:58:50 AM   
Tiornu

 

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Status: offline 		Here are some more of the super-numerous designs:
British MFV1 class, 354 completions
British MFV601 class, 333 completions
British MFV1001 class, 216 completions
German KFK class, 630 completions
German Seehund type, 285 completions
German Molch type, 393 completions
German Biber type, 324 completions
German Neger type, about 200 completions
German Marder type, about 300 completions
US 37ft type picket boat, about 460 completions
US 38ft type picket boat, about 550 completions
US 45ft type picket boat, about 470 completions
US 63ft type crash boat, 600+ completions, but I have no idea how many were armed.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 12:58:55 PM   
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Right or wrong I've used the following:
Ship - anything that was designed for use on the open sea.
Boat - one that not.

Being ex RN you could get keel-hauled for calling a ship a boat.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 3:19:28 PM   
WhoCares


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Status: offline 		Wikipedia just provides a rule of thumb: Link: Ship

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A rule of thumb saying (though it doesn't always apply) goes: "a boat can fit on a ship, but a ship can't fit on a boat". Often local law and regulation will define the exact size (or the number of masts) which a boat requires to become a ship.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 3:29:28 PM   
Tiornu

 

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Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port,
Aboard this tiny ship.

Any vessel of Minnow size or larger is a ship.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 3:37:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		The most plausible definition I ever came across was that a ship has more than one deck (not counting any weather deck), while a boat does not. So a submarine, not having multiple decks, is a boat, while a vessel with a built-up superstructure or multiple decks within its hull is a ship.

I have also come across a definition to the effect that the smallest vessel possible is a boat. If there is a vessel that cannot carry this boat on board, that vessel is also a boat. A vessel that can carry a boat is a ship.

< Message edited by irrelevant -- 9/2/2004 3:17:38 PM >

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 4:25:16 PM   
Tiornu

 

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 4:29:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did not intend to disparage the gallant Minnow, or her fearless crew.

Minnow has to be a ship because the original version of the song sounds much better than:

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
a tale of a tour afloat
That started from this tropic port,
Aboard this average boat.

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RE: What Ship.......(5) - 9/2/2004 5:22:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ctid98

'Class' was the most produced warship design.

I don't want to hear about landing craft, rubber boats or DUWK's!

Has to be a fighting ship design.

If any one else has questions please hijack the thread header and continue as I need more research.....

Answers on a postcard........


Well is an LST a landing craft or ship.
It is probably bigger and more expensive than a corvette.

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