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I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/18/2004 8:10:07 AM   
paplan

 

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Status: offline 		Is there a tutorial? Or do I have to actually read the manual? Any help here?
Many thanks.
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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/18/2004 10:13:40 AM   
jeffery88


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Status: offline 		I am new too , on my fourth battle after securing a major victory on the third ..what a great game ..

What is that you are confuse ..just post and I am sure there are a lot of mentor that will guide you

The manual is quite simple ..nothing much actually ..just keep playing and you will get into the game ..

Cheers

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/18/2004 10:29:09 AM   
Murky71


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Status: offline 		Browsing the manual should help you understand the mechanics. Is there anything specific you're stuck on?

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/18/2004 5:51:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		here is a short one page 'tutorial' to help you figure out the interface




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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/18/2004 5:53:10 PM   
koiosworks


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Status: offline 		Another good place to figure out 'tactics' is to read the after action reports. You can see turn by turn action and how the player executed his strategy. I especially recommend the one by Marathon. It's a nailbiter as well as will show sound strategy in defending the foes

< Message edited by koiosworks -- 11/18/2004 3:53:33 PM >

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/20/2004 11:37:48 PM   
paplan

 

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Status: offline 		OK, thanks for the help, I think that I'm learning.

Two more questions.
1) How, exactly, are combat results calculated? Can you give me an example?
2) The little numbers (for instance, +4, 0) that pop up when you order a melee attack. Are these all modifiers combined, or just some of the modifiers?

Thanks..................

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/20/2004 11:49:33 PM   
Deride


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ORIGINAL: paplan
1) How, exactly, are combat results calculated? Can you give me an example?


Combat is on a 10d for each roll. You get a 30% chance of hitting unmodified. You get 1 roll for each infantry stand, 2 rolls for each cavalry stand and 4 rolls for each elephant/chariot stand. Therefore, you can do a max of 4 hits (i.e., 400 enemy killed) per attack.

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ORIGINAL: paplan
2) The little numbers (for instance, +4, 0) that pop up when you order a melee attack. Are these all modifiers combined, or just some of the modifiers?


These are modifiers that you will get for the attack (i.e., +4) and the modifier the enemy will get when retaliating (i.e., +0).

Deride

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/22/2004 12:46:24 AM   
2gaulle

 

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Combat is on a 10d for each roll. You get a 30% chance of hitting unmodified.


how could a unit (of course Persian - ai) doing one casualty with -7

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/22/2004 4:48:18 PM   
koiosworks


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Status: offline 		every unit has a chance for a 'lucky' shot and get a hit. the chance is 1/100

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/22/2004 11:58:44 PM   
2gaulle

 

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every unit has a chance for a 'lucky' shot and get a hit. the chance is 1/100


the AI is realy lucky, at least 2 'lucky' shot on 65 results, one with -7, the other with -5

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/23/2004 7:17:31 AM   
koiosworks


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ORIGINAL: 2gaulle

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every unit has a chance for a 'lucky' shot and get a hit. the chance is 1/100


the AI is realy lucky, at least 2 'lucky' shot on 65 results, one with -7, the other with -5


assuming 65 shots (and not stands, remember a cav will get 2 shots per stand, an elephant 4 shots etc.) then a binomial distribution reveal a 14% chance of getting at least 2 lucky shots in 65 rolls. Certainly safely within a 90% confidence curve

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/23/2004 7:49:19 PM   
2gaulle

 

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assuming 65 shots (and not stands, remember a cav will get 2 shots per stand, an elephant 4 shots etc.) then a binomial distribution reveal a 14% chance of getting at least 2 lucky shots in 65 rolls. Certainly safely within a 90% confidence curve


sorry but I was not clear.

all to gether I have 65 battles.
on this 65, 19 with a malus between -7 and -1 but only 2 with a malus superior to -2

at -7 with only one stand the Persian AI made 1 casualty
at -5 with 4 stands the Persian AI made 1 casualty

at least it's a lot of lucky for the AI, isn't it?

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/23/2004 7:52:05 PM   
Clipper1968


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ORIGINAL: 2gaulle

all to gether I have 65 battles.
on this 65, 19 with a malus between -7 and -1 but only 2 with a malus superior to -2



Comment as-tu fait pour jouer 65 batailles???c'est incroyable!!!

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"s'instruire pour vaincre"

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/24/2004 12:13:54 AM   
2gaulle

 

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Comment as-tu fait pour jouer 65 batailles??? c'est incroyable!!!


not 65 battles but 65 combats/engagement in one battle if you prefer

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RE: I just got this game and I'm lost - 11/24/2004 5:29:29 AM   
2gaulle

 

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Status: offline 		Here some interesting result from one battle

237 macedoniens dice roll with an average chance of 56% give an average casualty of .6

192 Perso/Indian dice roll with an average chance of 35% give an average casualty of .4

not a great difference but the ratio is 107 for the Macedionien but 120 for the AI

more interesting for bonus bellow 1 the result are
macedonien 23% for 34 casualties
ai 22% for 36 casualties

but with bonus up to 1 the result are
macedonien 62% for 61 casualties
AI 41% for 48 casualties

so it's look like with low bonus there are more chance to made a casualties. generaly AI have more combat with low bonus.

So I don't think there is only a 1/100 lucky shot

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