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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/6/2009 11:54:50 PM

Ron Saueracker

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The jerk ran over my foot while turning left on a "pedestrian walk" sign. Kept on going. I caught him at the lights and cuffed the text messaging dick for good measure. Of course, the pain did not start for an hour and regrettably I figured no real harm done and failed to get his particulars, thinking a good cuff was enough. Thankfully, I've only sprained the ankle.

They really need to crack down on this cell phone/text messaging while driving crap.

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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/7/2009 2:35:14 AM

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RUPD, the only time my opponent tried to bombard singapore he lost a CA, had several others damaged and caused almost no damage. Also check the first team take two AAR for another example where the CD guns wreak havoc.

I agree tho, they should be more lethal

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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/8/2009 4:49:50 AM

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1) Avoid losing any carriers
2) Combine carriers into this type of fleet

Allied Carrier Force ~ 9/42

F4F SBD TBF

CV Lexington 60/18/15
CV Saratoga 60/18/15
CV Yorktown 60/18/15
CV Enterprise 60/18/15
CV Hornet 60/18/15
CV Wasp 30/30/12

BB North Carolina
BB South Dakota
BB Washington

CLAA San Juan
CLAA Atlanta
CLAA Juneau
CLAA San Diego

12 x Benson Class Destroyers (8 ASW)

Somewhat unassailable by surface units, submarines, or aircraft

F4F --> Shoot down any strike planes
SBD --> Sink any Carriers
TBF --> Sink any battleships

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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/8/2009 5:53:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Commander Stormwolf

1) Avoid losing any carriers
2) Combine carriers into this type of fleet

Allied Carrier Force ~ 9/42

F4F SBD TBF

CV Lexington 60/18/15
CV Saratoga 60/18/15
CV Yorktown 60/18/15
CV Enterprise 60/18/15
CV Hornet 60/18/15
CV Wasp 30/30/12

BB North Carolina
BB South Dakota
BB Washington

CLAA San Juan
CLAA Atlanta
CLAA Juneau
CLAA San Diego

12 x Benson Class Destroyers (8 ASW)

Somewhat unassailable by surface units, submarines, or aircraft

F4F --> Shoot down any strike planes
SBD --> Sink any Carriers
TBF --> Sink any battleships

I see a couple of problems with this. There are far too many aircraft in the TF, so you will be affected by the air strike coordination rule. Another problem is that with this many capital ships in the TF, signals intel is likely to make it easier to track.

A question that I have is how are you getting airgroups with 60 F4F on the carriers at this time of the war?

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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/8/2009 11:32:58 AM

String

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

quote:

ORIGINAL: Commander Stormwolf

1) Avoid losing any carriers
2) Combine carriers into this type of fleet

Allied Carrier Force ~ 9/42

F4F SBD TBF

CV Lexington 60/18/15
CV Saratoga 60/18/15
CV Yorktown 60/18/15
CV Enterprise 60/18/15
CV Hornet 60/18/15
CV Wasp 30/30/12

BB North Carolina
BB South Dakota
BB Washington

CLAA San Juan
CLAA Atlanta
CLAA Juneau
CLAA San Diego

12 x Benson Class Destroyers (8 ASW)

Somewhat unassailable by surface units, submarines, or aircraft

F4F --> Shoot down any strike planes
SBD --> Sink any Carriers
TBF --> Sink any battleships

I see a couple of problems with this. There are far too many aircraft in the TF, so you will be affected by the air strike coordination rule. Another problem is that with this many capital ships in the TF, signals intel is likely to make it easier to track.

A question that I have is how are you getting airgroups with 60 F4F on the carriers at this time of the war?

I think he does that by putting the 24 plane marine squadrons on them, in addition to the 36 plane VF squadrons.

Personally I'd divide this TF atleast into three separate TF's, provided I could find escorts. It would probably require most of the USN surface ships, but it's a good use.

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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/8/2009 11:58:55 AM

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As the Jap, I would LOVE to see that allied carrier force!! I'd lose a pair of CVLs sinking them.

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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/8/2009 2:45:37 PM

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Yep, not enough SBDs. I would maybe put a couple of 24 plane marine sqd's onboard at the expense of the torpedo a/c. Putting an extra sqd onboard each CV is gamey IMO.

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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/8/2009 3:53:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Miller

Yep, not enough SBDs. I would maybe put a couple of 24 plane marine sqd's onboard at the expense of the torpedo a/c. Putting an extra sqd onboard each CV is gamey IMO.

yep, I go with Miller here, putting an extra Marine squadron on each CV is too much... one or two, ok, but not on every one. 3 Marine squadrons in this case would be the absolute maximum IMO.

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RE: Surviving the first 6 months as the Allies (Long) - 3/9/2009 6:24:26 PM

Commander Stormwolf

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Greetings,

The 24 planes squadrons of F4F are placed on each CV.
A CAP of 300+ wildcats is virtually impennetrable,
provided that the carriers are able to remain in one hex.
With separates task forces, the Movenment co-ordination
penalty will be applied provided (when ships move more than
2 hexes in one phase) which is generally case during the
carrier reaction phase. If the USN carrier force is united,
then any threats can be absorbed. If necessary, even 10
marine squadrons can be placed on the CVs creating a 480
Wildcat CAP (at 90%).

The KB airstrikes can be attrited during the first day and
if necesssary, the fully replenished dauntless squadrons can be
flown from nearby land bases for day 2 (pulverizing the helpless
KB flight decks).

It is a battle of Kursk at Sea

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