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Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap doesn'... - 12/5/2004 12:41:39 AM

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Day Air attack on TF at 63,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 242
D4Y Judy x 30
B6N Jill x 27
G4M2 Betty x 43
P1Y Frances x 48

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 214

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 596 destroyed, 8 damaged
D4Y Judy: 65 destroyed, 18 damaged
B6N Jill: 51 destroyed, 14 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 56 destroyed, 10 damaged
P1Y Frances: 79 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 118 destroyed, 23 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Evans
CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Hornet
CV Enterprise
CL Birmingham
CV Lexington

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

i got this absolutley wonderful result in the marianas scenario

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/5/2004 12:48:36 AM

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BONZAI !

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/5/2004 1:06:17 AM

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*tzzzzt* Flight leader, this is six. We have a problem here. *tzzzt*

*tzzzt* What's the problem six? *tzzzzzt*

*tzzzt* Flight leader, there are so many Jap planes here that even the new guy can't miss. *tzzt*

*tzzt* Flight leader to base, we need every plane you can scramble, NOW!!!! *tzzzzt*

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/5/2004 1:11:17 AM

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That's why it's called the Mariana's Turkey Shoot!

Speaking of turkey's, I'm burnt out on Thanksgiving leftovers!

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/5/2004 1:13:19 AM

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<Nitpicking mode on>

I think Frances appears way too early operationally in this game. I think no Frances-es were operational during the historic Marianas shootout. Not that it matters, with CAP and EXP values like these...

On the other hand, Peggy bomber appears too late.

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Nice hit on the Yorktown

A bit costly though

O.

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/5/2004 1:19:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dtravel

*tzzzzt* Flight leader, this is six. We have a problem here. *tzzzt*

*tzzzt* What's the problem six? *tzzzzzt*

*tzzzt* Flight leader, there are so many Jap planes here that even the new guy can't miss. *tzzt*

*tzzt* Flight leader to base, we need every plane you can scramble, NOW!!!! *tzzzzt*

To take a line from Secret Weapons Over Normandy:

"The one good thing about being outnumbered is no matter where you shoot, you'll hit the enemy."

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/5/2004 1:25:11 AM

String

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I did shoot down 75 hellcats that day...

.. so when my next "wave" (30 planes all shot down) hit the cap it was down to 175 hellcats.. woohoo ..

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/7/2004 5:34:27 AM

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[/quote]

To take a line from Secret Weapons Over Normandy:

"The one good thing about being outnumbered is no matter where you shoot, you'll hit the enemy."
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In technical terms this is reffered to as "A target rich enviornment".

The sad thing is that the one torp hit only caused 4-5 sys damage. Falling aircraft debris and flak that came back down probably was the real cause and it was just chalked up as a torp hit.

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/7/2004 2:18:45 PM

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This kind of result is really worrying, unless all the japanese pilots had low xp.

Did the japanese ever have such numerical superiority?

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/7/2004 2:27:22 PM

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I've tried that scenario as IJ a half a dozen times, and that looks pretty familiar. Except for that torpedo hit on Yorktown. Never did score on any of ship in a CVTF.

Experience ratings for IJ LBA are in the 40s and 50s. Garbage. The naval aviation is not so bad, especially CarDiv1, 70s-80s. But they are so badly outnumbered that it doesn't matter.

One thing I didn't try was to let the USN strike first, put up 100% CAP. Probably wouldn't make any difference though.

That is a great scenario as USN. Not because of the inevitable bunny-stompin' carrier battle, but because of the opportunity it gives you to practice a 90-day amphibious campaign against tough ground opposition.

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RE: Bwhahahahaa.. you silly americans, your supercap do... - 12/7/2004 2:50:33 PM

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The thing is you do get better results with 100% CAP. You shoot down a fair share of Hellcats (but never enough) and bombers but the cost is immence. What you are left with is bomber crews in 70s and 80s and 10 Zekes to escort them with. Anyway, with good crews Japs can amount to something but it can only be done in a big scenario. There is just not enough flexibility in the Marianas scenario to make a difference no matter what you do. In the meantime, get used to such outcomes. After all, as Halsey said, thet's why they called it the Turkey shoot...

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