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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/2/2005 1:01:26 PM   
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February 14th, 1943

IBC
Recon shows an increased number of fighters over Hanoi, some 150-200 fighters.
I’ll try to take on them anyway. I have to wait a few more days to totally recover the heavies and as soon as I get good weather over Rangoon AND Moulmein I’ll strike.
Meanwhile the amphibious TF is approaching Victoria Point and the Corsair’s are almost ready.
It’s become a rush forward rather than an advance. I thought I would have slowly jumped ahead base after base, but I now think that I have to take the most out of this Japanese full retreat.

AUSTRALIA – NG
Exmouth has been captured. One day for my Seabees to put it back to working order and I’ll be able to use it as a jumping point for my planes from Geraldton to Broome.
Broome is already airfield L5 and growing.
The Japs are retreating from Daly and I’m advancing. It’ll take a while due to the last hex.
Darwin days are numbered. I won’t make it by the end of February, but in March I’ll definitely be there.

PACIFIC
I’m moving more troops to Townsville for the attack on PM. 2-3 weeks tops.
Lunga is already airfield size 1. P-38 and Demon with (80) exp are on station, plus a Coronado’s patrol unit.
In a week Guadalcanal will be back in Allied hands.
Rabaul will probably be under siege in March already.
I wonder where/when he’ll start to fight me back. With the Allies he fights impossible battles, with the Japs he retreats from very good defensive positions!

I wish I had an idea on the progress I should be making. How much am I behind schedule? Where should I speed up? Which attack vectors should I follow? My lack of experience of this phase is starting to show.


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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/2/2005 3:42:56 PM   
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Go step by step young padawan . If you rush your advances you are vulnerable to counter-attack.

After you clear Darwin you can go in a three way attack, upwards Solomons until you isolate Rabaul, then west to Goodenought Is and up north New Guinea to isolate PM.

Another is from Darwin Kai - Timor and North-East towards Sorong to join to the New Guinea campaign.

Each day that passes you are more stronger, he has given you the iniciative here, so you must try to lure him into a counterattack where you have air superiority, or wait until the big carrier battle sometime late 43 when you have a zillion F6Fs, F4Us and Essex carriers.

Remeber he only gets two CVLs (chitose and chiyoda), and a CV (Taiho), and you get roughtly 120 CV AC per month between CVs, CVLs and CVEs

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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/2/2005 4:38:39 PM   
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Hey Bliztk

I'm an eager young padwan I think I'll attack a bit more boldly from now on ... maybe

February 16th, 1943

IBC
My RN Surface Fleet is relocating to Rangoon. Now that the Corsair’s are ready I have no fear whatsoever of a Jap air strike over the port.
Subs are there already and are starting to mine a few bases of the costs of Sumatra and Malaya. I’m also probing his ASW defences.
In two days I’ll land in Victoria. Next step Sumatra!

AUSTRALIA – NG
With the consolidation of Broome and Exmouth completed I’m now moving for Derby. Tomorrow I shall land.
Some preliminary recon flights over Timor report no Jap presence!?!
The Australian force advancing towards Daly is now under daily light/medium bombings from Sally’s based in Darwin. I’ll soon shut that airport down.
Troops and ships are gathering in Townsville for the assault on PM. I have no intention of surrounding it. It seems weak enough to be taken with a direct attack.
Recon reports (6) LCU’s and roughly 5k men. Even if it’s four times more I won’t have a problem there. I may manage to get PM back by the first week of March. This will help a lot in mopping up Northern Australia.

PACIFIC
Lunga is at airfield size 2, Swordfish and Vengeance I have reached the airfield, all at 80 exp.
In SF Enterprise, Saratoga and Lexington are all upgraded and I’m now waiting for the sys dmg to go down to zero. They are in good company, at harbour with them one new CVL and 3 BBs.

The pace of the advance will soon increase.

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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/2/2005 8:03:53 PM   
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Ouch Looks like that Boomerang needs a touch up! Thanks for posting it. Will you continue to post stuff like that please? This is the kind of info I need MC!

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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/2/2005 9:14:26 PM   
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Doesn't need a touchup. That's where the smoke and flames were supposed to start from. He just forgot to add them.

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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/2/2005 11:30:28 PM   
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Ouch Looks like that Boomerang needs a touch up! Thanks for posting it. Will you continue to post stuff like that please? This is the kind of info I need MC!


Hey man , after all the great work you've given us, the least I can do is post some screenies of your art!

Ask what you want to see, if I can (= if I have those planes flying ) I'll post it.
I can also post the Jap ones, only I have less control over them

Here you go with some more night training.




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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/7/2005 7:10:00 PM   
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After some difficult days IRL I’m back.

IBC
I don’t remember! I watched the combat and did the that part days ago.
I assume I’m continuing the advance southbound.

AUSTRALIA – NG
A combined strike from Broome and Daly resulted in a bloody engagement over Darwin.
I lost 97 airplanes in air-to-air, he lost 31 + 139 on the ground. My P-38’s pilots were quite poor, around 60 exp. Darwin is now officially closed.
IMHO GH is playing this particular time of the war much worse than he has been playing over the last year and I don’t understand why. On attack he has been masterful, in defence he is loosing lots of opportunities.
He keeps concentrating his airplanes in a few (if not one) airfield, making my life much easier. I now have enough planes to close down any airport. IMHO he should disperse his air force to deny me the chance to shut down completely his air power.
He made a defensive stance over Darwin, ok maybe it was worth a try. But why not trying to attack my carriers while out at sea too? In defence (Darwin) the best he could get was a good kill ratio (which he did not get), while attacking my carriers he could have got a lucky shot (or more).
He let me get Broome and Derby with no fight. And now I can move under LBA cover.
Same for NG, PM is closed and there’s no other nearby airfield at L4.
In a couple of weeks I’ll go for PM. And then I should be able to move on in almost any direction I wish.
I’m quite disappointed, it’s almost too easy. It’s been hell for a year and now I’m playing vs. thin air.
One last note. It seems that Daly is not drawing supplies from Alice, this could be a serious problem. I’ll know for sure in a couple of days.

PACIFIC
Nothing relevant. I’m shifting part of the ground power towards Guadalcanal and NG.
Lunga is already airfield L4 and port L2.

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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/8/2005 12:28:26 AM   
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IBC
I’m moving most CW units from India to Rangoon.
I’m also preparing the move to Georgetown, there I’ll be on the main railroad between Bangkok and Singapore and I’ll be able to move freely by land.
No Japanese Air Force or Navy anywhere in Malaya, in Sumatra only in Palembang.
The 2E (B-25J and Wellington III) are hitting nearby Japanese LCU’s. I’m resting the 4E in case he tries to ‘return’ with his air force.
The feeling of playing alone gets stronger by the day.

AUSTRALIA – NG
The bombers in Daly on Naval Attack are slaughtering the Japanese ships trying to evacuate the units stranded in Darwin.
Australian units are closing in onto Darwin from Daly and US troops are incoming from Broome/Derby.
I’m hoping to be able to capture some Japanese units in Darwin. He cannot protect the evac ships.
I think I’ll try to shortcut to Timor. I’m not sure yet.
As in IBC there’s nobody to fight. My main enemy is the lack of AP’s and time.

PACIFIC
The shift to Townsville is almost complete. I’ll soon move for PM. Once PM is taken care of everything will be easier.
GH is obviously trying to save the VPs of his troops, but this way he is making my advance a walk in the park!
Playing the Allies with Hawker he tries everything to slow down the advance, no matter the cost, with the Japanese his only concern is saving the troops. Quite odd.

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Back in Malaya! - 12/8/2005 11:59:32 PM   
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IBC
The first Indian troops are landing in Georgetown. We are back in Malaya!
As usual no opposition. The Indian Infantry is followed by several more units: tanks, base forces and the troops required to reclaim Malaya ASAP.
Mr. Churchill has gotten drunk and forgot to ask for yet more ships, good old boy!
In China GH is mopping up the last strongholds, Lanchow has fallen and with it several thousands Chinese troops. The score is now 13k:33k. I have a long way to go to recover the situation.

AUSTRALIA – NG
An Australian Tank Rgt is landing in Wyndham, no Japanese garrison to defend it.
The first small attack in Darwin achieved a 1:1 with the forts down from 7 to 6.
As more units are arriving Darwin will fall in a couple of days.
Lots of troops, supplies and fuel are on their way for Darwin. I must initiate the push North from Darwin within a couple of weeks.
GH seems to have chosen PI as the defensive position. As far as I can tell even Sulawesi is deserted. I hope to be able to start the PI offensive in May.
An invasion TF is moving towards PM, a couple of divisions plus supporting units. I don’t expect any serious resistance. Usual surface escort (4 BBs) and carrier escort (only CVE’s).
Truk seems to be his defensive bastion on this side of the map, Intel reports (67) LCU’s in Truk!!! I guess I’ll simply bypass it and come back in ’44 to finish it off.
It looks like he is running from Rabaul too.

PACIFIC
Moving to mop up Tessafaronga and Tulagi.
Tarawa seems to be one of his few strongholds (13 LCU’s) I’ll probably avoid that direction. There are plenty of undefended bases to reclaim.
While I perfectly understand his defensive DS (tons of units in a few places), from what I can tell his perimeter seems to have too many holes. If I’m allowed to bypass the strongholds how can he stop my drive towards Japan?
The Allies in ’43 are really powerful. And due to my force preservation in ’42 I now have (21) fully operational BB/BC. I’ll bomb him into stone age with this firepower.
The biggest risk I’m now running is to get overconfident, on the other hand if I’m too cautious I risk to loose some precious time. We'll see I'll be able to balance the alternatives.

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RE: Back in Malaya! - 12/9/2005 12:22:11 AM   
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I am suprised by his decisions as well. Maybe he thinks he is playing Allies and is using the Sir Robin defense.

I doubt it will work as well for Japan.




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RE: Back in Malaya! - 12/9/2005 1:25:05 AM   
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IBC
Georgetown is taken.
Troops are flooding in. I hope to finish off Malaya within the month. But I have yet no info on Singapore’s garrison.
I’m hoping he has retreated from there as well. If he has, we are going to see a battle for PI and maybe even for Japan as early as late ’43!
I agree with Tom, Sir Robin tactic (whatever it means! ) won’t work for the Japs. Especially since they have the best ground units. IMHO he should dig in and let me take forever to recapture his bases.
I also don’t understand the FCD in defence. He has some 200 fighters (the best Japan can afford) in Hanoi.
I have 600+ bombers (mostly 4E) in Rangoon and Moulmein, plus 100+ P-38, if I decide to strike he doesn’t stand a chance. It’ll be a slaughter.
The only reason why I haven’t yet is because I don’t think WitP handle these kind of combats properly, hence – unless I have to – I try to avoid them. They are no fun. But very soon I’ll have to get rid of that potential threat to my advancing units and ships.
I keep thinking that he should disperse the air force and try to keep my airbases and harbours under threat with surprise attacks with the long ranged G3/4M’s. I know it would make my life more difficult and it would slow down the advance, which is precisely what’s he is supposed to be doing now.

AUSTRALIA - NG
Wyndham and Darwin are now US bases.
A need a few days to reorganize and then I’ll move on to Timor and Sulawesi.
In two days I’ll land in PM. My amphibious TF has not been spotted yet, but I don’t think he has any intention of trying to stop me.
I yet have to decide whether to continue for Rabaul or concentrate on DEI.

PACIFIC
I’m moving some carriers and battleships to PH from SF. I may decide to retake Canton, just to shorten the way from SF to the front line.

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RE: Back in Malaya! - 12/9/2005 12:41:21 PM   
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IBC
No big news. The drive towards Singapore continues. More troops are disembarking in Georgetown.
I’ve just redirected a convoy incoming tomorrow in Georgetown to Sumatra. Apparently the Island is empty too. There’s a Chindit Bde on board, they’ll quickly recapture Northern Sumatra.
There goes the ‘defensive perimeter’ of the Japanese Empire.
If he tried to stop my landings I would have had a very difficult time. I have only (3) AP’s and (1) LST, AK’s landing time is pathetic (the Brits had the same problem IRL: no landing crafts). If I found resistance at the landing base I could have been pushed back. Now I can afford to land one unit at a time. GH has been great in ’42, but I really believe he is making a big mistake here.

AUSTRALIA – NG
At the first lights of the dawn the US Marines and the Australian GI’s landed in PM. It was heavily mined, but no coastal guns. A few ships have been damaged by the mines, but overall the minesweepers did a very good job.
One more day and I’ll order the assault. A few Japanese garrison units are defending the base.
It has really become a rush forward.

PACIFIC
Lunga is at airfield size 5. Several hundreds planes are training and several squadrons of P-38’s and Corsair’s are now at 80 exp. With them lots of Avenger’s and Dauntless.
I can now afford to rely on the air force only for defence purposes. I can use all my AP on attack. Japan doesn’t stand a chance to get through the US Air Force, at least from now on.
One thing only I’m missing: landing crafts. And that is the reason why I firmly believe that GH should have challenged me (I have ever mentioned this? ).
I could not advance so fast if I had to assemble big invasion TFs, simply because I don’t have enough ships yet (and AKs suck), but this way I can afford small landings to get the job done and I can advance way faster.

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RE: Back in Malaya! - 12/9/2005 3:24:36 PM   
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Looks like the Avenger I needs a bit of fine tuning




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Port Moresby recaptured! - 12/9/2005 11:19:03 PM   
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A quick update

IBC
Advancing unopposed North and South in Malaya. Same in Northern Sumatra.
Soon I’ll be in Singapore and Palembang.
I’m bombing Saigon's resources and HI, because I’m not planning on going there anytime soon.

AUSTRALIA – NG
PM has been recaptured. I’m now going for Rabaul and the surrounding bases. Nobody seems to be around.
Marine raiders are heading for Timor.

PACIFIC
No news


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Pause - 12/10/2005 10:27:06 AM   
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Hi guys.

I have a question/idea.
Since nothing is happening and it'll be a while before I manage to engage Japan in battle and since, judging from the posts, the your interest is obviously decreased, I was thinking to pause this AAR until something starts to happen again.

Let me know what's your feeling.

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RE: Pause - 12/13/2005 6:05:24 PM   
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I read your and your opponents AAR in total over the last 5 weeks or so and you're right, they evolved from my favorite threads towards a boring story of mass bombing.

I think the air model of vanilla WitP is seriously broken, although in your case it might have to do with the passive style of play you had in '42. This is not to blame you or your opponent, I guess both of you took advantage from the game mechanics that are given and as long as the modelling doesnt work well I guess we will have to live with what is there.

I hope both of you will come back with the same enthusiasm of AAR writing once you have a more interesting phase in your game. I'm certainly looking forward to it.

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RE: The Return of the Jedi! - 12/13/2005 7:27:58 PM   
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I check this AAR regularly and it is a bit less interesting lately for the reasons you mentioned.

Nothing much you can do about it, if your building up for an attack things are bound to be less exciting.

The same thing is happening in my Lunacy game with Mogami, and also in Fear and Loathing in the Pacific.

I don't think you should stop posting completely, but updating less often makes sense. I usually update every 2 days when there is a lot of action and every day if something major like a big CV battle may occur.

But when things slow down I update every 5 days or so, or I wait for a major battle and update then so I have a "Headline" event to work with.

Even if not much is happening I do think it is good to post occasionally saying things like: " The 245 fluegel group joined the buildup at Boring Boring, AV is now 650 which means the air support for operations against Tiny Island is in place"


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RE: Pause - 12/15/2005 2:54:16 AM   
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As Tom said above I agree. I am glad to see that your game is not as "exciting". Good job and looking forward to more updates as things develop.

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RE: Pause - 12/15/2005 9:23:52 PM   
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I don't know about anyone else but I still enjoy reading the AAR. Yes the bombing can be a bit boring but to novices like myself, it just proves the point that air power is essential prior to any "advance". Keep the reports coming.

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RE: Back in Malaya! - 12/15/2005 9:40:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mc3744

Looks like the Avenger I needs a bit of fine tuning






Argh! What version are you using? If it i smy latest one make sure you have the latest Alpha too. I could swear I did the Avenger Alpha correctly. Just make sure your alpha is compatible. Thanks for posting!!!

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RE: Back in Malaya! - 12/26/2005 2:56:26 PM   
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Hi TheElf,

I've been out for a while and I just saw your post.

I'm using the latest files (the CHS ones).
I'll soon 'upgrade' to the last one (stock) you just released.

Let me know if you want any specific airplane posted.

Cheers

I'll keep posting (as soon as we resume playing) once in a while or when something interesting happens.

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Singapore recaptured - 1/5/2006 4:29:05 PM   
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After a stop due to the Xmas holidays here we go again, albeit still at a slower pace.

BURMA – DEI
Singapore is back in Allied hands. The entire Malaya peninsula is now under control, but for Kuantan and Mersing. I’ll use two small paradrops to avoid stranding troops in those two isolated bases.
Singapore will be the new centre of operations, South East Asia Command is on its way to Singapore.
Engineers are moving toward Kota Bahru, from there I’ll be able to provide air cover to the advance in Indo-China.
The bulk of the CW forces is now in the Malaya peninsula or under way. Reassigned Chinese troops are still recovering in India.
Next steps will be Sumatra, Java and Borneo. Those areas are free of Japanese forces, but full of thousands of mines.
It will mainly be a logistic effort to coordinate minesweeping activities, air cover and supplies. I hope I’ll be able to recapture the entire DEI within a couple of months.
Soon I’ll take care of Hanoi’s airport, there’s no hurry anyway.

AUSTRALIA – NG – BANDA SEA
As in Malaya/DEI the main problem is represented by tons of mines and by G3/4Ms that can hit my unescorted convoys at a great distance.
I’ve already lost a few ships to these two threats.
Both problems are now being addressed by several MSW’s clearing the way with a CV’s escort. Not much is needed since the G3/4Ms are operating beyond fighter’s cover.
The big amount of CV’s, CVL’s and CVE’s is now proving very handy. I can escort my minesweeper TFs and amphibious TFs with small carrier TFs (1-2 CV/CVE/CVL, 1 CL, 1 CLAA and 3-4 DDs). A couple of carriers are enough to avoid G3/4M attacks at long distance.
I’m now moving towards Rabaul in the Pacific and towards Amboina/Kendari in the Banda Sea.
There’s no Japanese presence anywhere. The first protected bases are Truk and PI.
The next two months will be mostly focused on organizing the force transition Northbound.
The air force is now impressive. I have thousands of planes, I don’t even know what to use them for. And thanks to the training program I also have hundreds of pilots at 80+ exp.
The Navy is also super-strong with 20+ BBs, dozens of carriers and countless cruisers and destroyers.
On top of that GH is doing his best to make my life easier, he keeps retreating and doesn’t even attempt at bothering my advance. Only mines stand between PI and Japan and the Allies forces.
Regardless his current attitude I’m keeping a strong force, both land troops and air force, on the entire way from PH to Australia. You never know.





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RE: Singapore recaptured - 1/5/2006 4:37:47 PM   
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I think airborne operations are the way to go in DEI. If he really did pull back most of the smaller bases should be empty.

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RE: Singapore recaptured - 1/5/2006 4:44:16 PM   
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this screen is the best proof that japan should do its best and go for east india in early 42
if Japan is able to hold calcutta region than Burma is safe and allied have problem with bombing offensive

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RE: Singapore recaptured - 1/5/2006 4:55:10 PM   
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I think airborne operations are the way to go in DEI. If he really did pull back most of the smaller bases should be empty.


I agree, the problem is that one paradrop here, one paradrop there and I'm out of paratroopers
For some reason the pick up troops command never seems to work in my games.

I'll use the paratroopers for isolated bases and the regular landings for the big islands with road connections.

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RE: Singapore recaptured - 1/5/2006 4:57:00 PM   
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this screen is the best proof that japan should do its best and go for east india in early 42
if Japan is able to hold calcutta region than Burma is safe and allied have problem with bombing offensive


You have to consider that GH is playing strictly to win on a VP basis.
We are now 33k to 15k, hence he may very well make it even loosing PI as early as 1943.
He simply avoids loosing points by not fighting.

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RE: Singapore recaptured - 1/5/2006 4:59:42 PM   
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The problem is that by falling back he is reducing the frontage you have to fight on and you are fresh, ready and experienced by now = you can bring even more than he can to any point and smite him even quicker. Just my thoughts.........

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RE: Singapore recaptured - 1/5/2006 5:07:37 PM   
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taking india and scoring points are not opposite tasks and even offer easy points from starved china

I noticed few players can successfuly defend burma in 43 so better defensive position is needed
usually players are doing reasonably well in pacific , salomons , have problems in south dei and are kicked in burma in 43.

just my 2 cents

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RE: Singapore recaptured - 1/5/2006 8:17:14 PM   
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taking india and scoring points are not opposite tasks and even offer easy points from starved china




GH scored enough points in China soon enough. He must have decided that the effort to take India could have been too dangerous.
India can be very difficult to take.
I'm not saying I don't agree with you, just that it's easier said than done

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Formidable damaged - 1/5/2006 8:18:30 PM   
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March 20th, 1943

It seems I was wrong.
G3/4Ms can fly unescorted vs. escorted targets.
The British CV Formidable was covering a minesweeping TF at Lautern.
Two waves of unescorted Nell’s attacked the carrier, the (18) Seafire’s were not able to stop but a few them. One torpedo hit the Formidable, sys dmg (31), still rising due to some fire. She’ll be out of commission for a few months.
I’ll have to strengthen the air cover of TFs, it’ll slow me down. Anyway nothing irreparable.





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