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Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 8:03:20 AM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 8:37:14 AM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 9:15:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		A crime against Battleship beauty. Formerly a Colorado class battleship with pretty matching cage masts, The USS West Virginia was converted into a Tub-O class bombardment vessel after having been raised from the muck of Pearl Harbor

It is said that rather than suffer the same fate, USS Oklahoma broke her tow on the way back to the mainland and sank.


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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 9:20:45 AM   
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hard to rival the "master"

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 12:32:50 PM   
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The USS West Virginia was converted into a Tub-O class bombardment vessel after having been raised from the muck of Pearl Harbor



Tub-O class? And I thought I knew most US Navy ship classes. Never heard of that one!

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 1:47:58 PM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 2:15:15 PM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 6:04:58 PM   
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I too have used picks others have, it is hard not to some times

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 6:38:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Other Tub-O class bombardment vessels include:

USS Tennessee
USS California

Another lamentable class of vessels are the Vomit class shore support vessels.

This one ship class consists of the USS Nevada, formerly a Nevada class battleship of great beauty. Harshly treated at the hands of the Japanese at Pearl Harbor...this ill-fated ship was destined to be treated even more harshly at the hands of US dock workers when it came time for her to be repaired.

So bad was the conversion's effect that crews had to be regularily rotated due to eye strain and the ship was eventually banished to the Atlantic where the reduced visibility conditions would make her less of an eyesore.

After the war ended and volunteers were needed for the Atomic bomb testings, Nevada's name was the first to be put on the list. Coincidence? I tink not.......



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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 6:56:30 PM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 6:58:21 PM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 7:02:17 PM   
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I always thought the California, Tennessee and West Virginia rebuilds were very pleasing to the eye. Mean lookin'!


Yes well you drink too much Canadian beer too....so there ya GO!

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/28/2005 7:04:39 PM   
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What about the USS Mississippi as AG 128? I always thought that was an interesting Mod, wish she could have that configuration in WITP


Well admitedly the New Mexico's conversion from cage masts to Tower structure was done pleasantly so they do not fall into the butt ugly catagory. However the conversion to missile test ship was clearly a mistake. Missles make sissy sounding S-S-S-S-S noises when they launch. Compare that to the resounding, masculine ROAR of the big guns when they fire. BOOOOM!

Just say no to Missiles. say Yes to the big guns!



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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/29/2005 12:27:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was actually more interested in the Advanced Base Sectional Dock than the WV. Afterall BB's are a dime a dozen...

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/29/2005 12:41:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

A crime against Battleship beauty. Formerly a Colorado class battleship with pretty matching cage masts, The USS West Virginia was converted into a Tub-O class bombardment vessel after having been raised from the muck of Pearl Harbor

It is said that rather than suffer the same fate, USS Oklahoma broke her tow on the way back to the mainland and sank.



I thought she was a maryland class , I also thought she looked rather nice when seen in 45 pics

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/29/2005 1:05:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		The rebuilt WeeVee, California, and Tennessee were probably the best-looking American battleships.
Current theory states that I don't drink enough beer.

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/29/2005 5:13:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Have to agree. The others sort of seem to be cobbled together and don't have a lot of purpose built looks about them. Personally, I would not liked to have found out that those ships were in Pearl in that material condition at the time of the Japanese raid. They might still have been sunk, but they would have put up a lot of AAA to at least shake the pilots up a bit. They were bad enough in the later stages of the war.

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/29/2005 4:06:02 PM   
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The rebuilt WeeVee, California, and Tennessee were probably the best-looking American battleships.
Current theory states that I don't drink enough beer.


After a statement like that....I heartily agree. You need more beer


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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/30/2005 1:28:35 AM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 6/30/2005 1:30:04 AM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/1/2005 1:22:16 PM   
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Talking about succesful rebuilds, this is the Iowa:


Actually, it's partially submerged Iowa. What we can see here is a part of superstructure, with main hull and turrets snorkeling a few meters underwater. Guess they're doing watertightness test. Guess also it's not going very well.

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/1/2005 2:19:10 PM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/1/2005 9:49:59 PM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/1/2005 9:53:01 PM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/1/2005 9:58:43 PM   
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http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/battleships/iowa/bb4-iowa.html

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/2/2005 4:10:07 AM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/2/2005 11:02:07 AM   
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What about the USS Mississippi as AG 128? I always thought that was an interesting Mod, wish she could have that configuration in WITP


Well admitedly the New Mexico's conversion from cage masts to Tower structure was done pleasantly so they do not fall into the butt ugly catagory. However the conversion to missile test ship was clearly a mistake. Missles make sissy sounding S-S-S-S-S noises when they launch. Compare that to the resounding, masculine ROAR of the big guns when they fire. BOOOOM!

Just say no to Missiles. say Yes to the big guns!



Okay. I'll take an Iowa class, remodeled with cruise missiles, you can have one with just the old guns. Figure we start the battle at a range of say, 50 miles...

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/2/2005 12:55:14 PM   
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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/3/2005 3:34:01 AM   
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Why elongate the hull when you can stick turrets on top of each other.

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RE: Name this...treespiders first attempt - 7/3/2005 4:14:06 AM   
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Guy guys guys, THIS is a true battleship.



Why elongate the hull when you can stick turrets on top of each other.



Sorry...I still think the laundry drying on those estheticlly tragic towers has been edited out.

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