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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/16/2006 5:20:27 PM

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you put all 10BB on 1 dice roll
it is better to build 2-4 separate TF

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/16/2006 5:29:25 PM

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Maybe a foolish question but are you flying recon missions over Valdivostok?

Also forts can reduce the effect of bombardment.

Finally the die roll effect in bombardment is pretty extreme compared to the fairly predictable results we get from air and ground combat, it might be bad luck.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/16/2006 5:57:17 PM

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you put all 10BB on 1 dice roll
it is better to build 2-4 separate TF

I must hold BBs togetgher becouse he has a lot Beauforts and subs here,i must rush,bombard,go back,disband and all again.

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Maybe a foolish question but are you flying recon missions over Valdivostok?

Vladivostok is reconed from start of Russia war.

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Also forts can reduce the effect of bombardment.

Sorebaya has level 9 forts. I am bombarding with nine BBs(without Yamato) and his casulties was high(6000),AF destroyed...

I will try again,but in Russia many strange things happpened. Ghost aircrafts,aircrafts wont fly etc...

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/17/2006 12:01:23 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/17/42

RUSSIA

Tommorow is scheduled another bombardment of Vladivostok. AF in Vladivostok is closed and he fly only LRCAP with his useless Russian planes and lousy imperialist wildcats

. First BB fleet will punch the shores and then air armada will be unleashed.
First group of 100 transport ships approach Port Arthur.Soon Russia fate will be sealed,i will have there 25 divisions,he cant repel that.

CHINA

Just holding ground,he can do nothing and i cant do nothing.
Status quo.

PACIFIC

Everything is quiet,my LBA waiting in their lairs. If he move anything there hell will unleash

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/17/2006 4:23:30 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/18/42

RUSSIA

Battleship fleet bombard again Vladivostok but with better results,they disabled almost 5000 men and some minor hits to supply and airfield. I did mistake today,i forget to set Zeros to sweep and my bombers hit a trap above Vladivostok,many of this aces wont make to bases

. He manage to hit BB Fuso with torpedo,no big deal but she must go to shipyard.

Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
BB Nagato
BB Yamato
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
DD Yugiri
DD Harukaze
DD Okikaze
DD Yukaze
DD Nokaze

Allied ground losses:
4630 casualties reported
Guns lost 96
Vehicles lost 19

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

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Day Air attack on Vladivostok , at 65,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 119
Ki-49 Helen x 47

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
Kittyhawk I x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 15 destroyed, 17 damaged

Ki-49 Helen: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 65
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Two days and divisions of Southern area army will start to disembark in Port Arthur.

CHINA

He doing some suicide attacks with kittyhawks in Canton. In Canton i have stationel elite Zero daitai with 91 exp.,Kittys cant match that

. My special war works fine,he move almost 40 unit in Canton chasing ghosts

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Later i will post screenshots.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/17/2006 4:49:28 PM

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Here is the Russia situation,

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/17/2006 5:06:48 PM

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Here is China situation,he mass almost 40 units at Canton so he thinks that i am going in China-GOOD

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/17/2006 9:18:34 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/19/42

Another bombard fleet is assembled. This time only fast ships included. Fuso and Yamashiro is sent to Hiroshima under heavy escort to do some repairs. Tomorrow,200000 troops of Southern area army will start disembark in Port Arthur. First retrained Zeros are moved to home islands for upcoming air offensive.
All other fronts are quiet,but not for long

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Baby KB encounter lone AK just south of Petropavlovsk,AK is promptly sunk

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Day Air attack on TF at 88,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
B5N Kate x 46

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Barbara Olson, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/17/2006 11:52:54 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/20/42

Quiet day,troops are resting,only my bombers working. Vladivostok is in ruins. Tommorow,naval bombardment a scheduled again.
Troops of Southern area army disembarking at Port Arthur.
My Zero pilots shot down some Kittys above the Vladivostok.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/18/2006 12:07:17 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/21/42

Another good result in bombardment. Bombardment fleet was at sea and during the night urgent message was received by admiral Tanaka. Message says that target is changed and Nahodka should be bombarded,that is because recons planes brought photos of many planes in Nahodka airport. Tanaka quickly change the course and bombard Nahodka destroying many planes on ground and closing airfield. Allied subs tried to threaten my fleet but they was quickly dispersed by destroyers on escort.SS Gato is badly hit and she probably sink. Fleet retreating to Genzan for refueling. Next night will strike again.
Six divisions of Southern area army along with tank,engineer,support units disembark in Port Arthur and tomorrow will march to Harbin,other group of 100 ships approaching Port Arthur and in 3 days they will unload their cargo.

Naval bombardment of Nakhodka, at 66,34

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 11 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
Beaufort I: 15 destroyed
LaGG-3: 13 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Nokaze
DD Yukaze
DD Okikaze
DD Minekaze
DD Hayate
DD Asagiri
DD Isonami
DD Hatsushima
DD Natsugumo
DD Tanikaze
DD Hagikaze
DD Urakaze
CL Kuma
CL Natori
CA Mogami
CA Atago
CA Chikuma
CA Tone
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Allied ground losses:
2081 casualties reported
Guns lost 51
Vehicles lost 9

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 261

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/18/2006 12:17:37 PM

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Is it just me or you just bagged some 100 ac on the ground?

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/18/2006 12:21:25 PM

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looks like 50 to me
but great success nevertheless

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/18/2006 2:51:40 PM

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Actually,100 allied aircrafts destroyed on the ground

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/18/2006 4:06:36 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/22/42

Day of small victories.
Two battleship fleet assembled at Genzan for upcoming bombardment of Russia. First have two BB's(Hiei,Haruna),6 CA's,3 CLs,10 DDs.
Second fleet have 5 BB's leading by Yamato and 18 DDs. Vladivostok will be leveled.
He try to train some aircobras south of Nanchang,but days of piece full training above China is over because elite retrained Zero daitais swarming the skies of China.

Day Air attack on 20th Mixed Brigade, at 47,38

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Far south 600 miles from Rochampton SS I-31 sinks AK from convoy that is moving north,all subs in vicinity will steam at full speed to intercept convoy.

Sub attack at 54,118

Japanese Ships
SS I-31

Allied Ships
AK Kwangtung, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SINK
PG Jasmine
PG Cyclamen
PG Genista
PG Warrego
MSW Colac
MSW Echuca
MSW Castlemaine
MSW Kalgoorlie
MSW Warrnambool
MSW Lithgow
AK Escalante R
AK Lycaon
AK Benkalis

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/18/2006 6:21:51 PM

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AIRCRAFT LOSSES

So far in game (7 months) alliaes lost 4115 planes

Japanese losses are 2955 planes

See for yourself,we lost more than 7000 planes in 7 months,

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/18/2006 9:48:32 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/23/42

RUSSIA

Two bombardment fleet approaching shores of Russia and next night hell will unleash again. My bombers resting and reffiting but Zeros can go in battle again. I manage to retrain five zero daitai to 80 exp. Southern area army(1.contingent) marching across Russia to Harbin,i cant wait to hit him with 28 divisions.

CHINA

He start bombarding attacks in Canton probably to see what i have there. I still have 2500 APs in Canton,maybe thats enough to convince him that i will try to attack in China. But i am not count on that.
Training missions of allied bombers almost completely stop,probably because of dreaded Zero pilots

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PACIFIC

I am making some regrouping in this area.
16th Army is located in Rabaul
16th ARMY:
-2nd division
-8th tank regiment
-Base force,construction enginers
In Rabaul is also located 11th Air fleet which have.
-3 Betty squadron
-1 Zero daitai
-1 oscar sentai
-1 Emily recon

South seas detachment is located in Lunga along with several SNLF units and support. In Lunga i have two Betty squadron and two zero daitai along with Emily recon.
In PM i have naval guard units along with SNLF and NLF units. 150 bombers will be placed in PM with enough fighters,but fighters is needed in Russia front.

Also i assembled "Southern pacific fleet" consist of:
1.BB Mutsu
2.CA Haguro
3.CA Myoko
4.CL Yura
5.CL Kinu
6.CL Nagara
7.10 DDs
"Southern pacific fleet" is based in Rabaul

Support fleet consist of:
1.CL Tama
2.CL Kiso
3.CL Tenriyu
4.CL Tatsuta
5.CL Yubari
6.14 DDs
This fleet is based in Kwaielien
Everything is prepared for warm welcome to imperialists.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/18/2006 11:18:25 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/24/42

RUSSIA

Two set of bombardments with no so good results. I hope BBs can do better in next days. Troops are marching thru Russia while others will start disembark in Port Arthur tommorow. Almost milion men will roll in Russia

. I will soon start to crush things here

.

Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33

Japanese Ships
DD Asagiri
DD Hayate
DD Minekaze
DD Okikaze
DD Yukaze
DD Nokaze
CL Kuma
CL Natori
CA Mogami
CA Atago
CA Chikuma
CA Tone
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Allied ground losses:
376 casualties reported
Guns lost 24

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Vladivostok, at 65,33

Japanese Ships
DD Isonami
DD Hatsushima
DD Natsugumo
DD Tanikaze
DD Hagikaze
DD Urakaze
BB Ise
BB Yamato
BB Nagato
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei

Allied ground losses:
329 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/19/2006 6:23:02 PM

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These results are why I don't support the nerf shore bombardment people. Shore bombardment has a very wide range of possible results from huge to practically nothing and that seems to reflect the actual war. It may be one of the few things that works right in the game, wouldn't that be ironic.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/19/2006 11:58:39 PM

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i agree -bombardments are fine -some work -some do not!

half the fun of this game is trying to organise them -and balancing potential results to possible losses -you might win, or for a lousy couple of planes, you may lose a BB or -even 2 (like i just did)

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/27/2006 10:31:36 PM

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I am back online after my internet provider decide to fix my connection(DSL modem burn).

Some thoughts about Russia:

After SAA disembarks i will have 28 divisions in Russia. Because of bad timing(Jawa) i am very afraid of Russia. Reason,he can bombard my industry in Japan from there. I must make quick victory in Russia and release troops of SAA for other fronts.
I am playing very risky,in my point of view that is only way to play with Japanese. I am also counting on "special war"-show my forces everywhere,run arround with KB to scary him and i must say that my "special war" gives better results than front results.
Whenever zero shows his AC runs away,if anything that looks like KB shows he runs away.
The truth is,i am weak on several fronts and i am depending on LBA to protect my gainings,KB is in Japan,resting refiting.
If he attacks now my whole front is in great danger,but if he wait for two months he will be in bad position-very bad.
Its a gamble,but it is only way to win this war.

PRODUCTION

I lost 1200 Zeros till now,but pool are full(268 pc.),i stop production of vals and kates. Zeros are almost retrained(75-80 exp.) He has strategic advantage but he is not use it,in 15 days that will change and hordes of zeros will fly again.

He made a big mistake,last month not a single zero daitai was in Japan. He didnt attack industry there(because of scary factor)and now he cant(because of Zero factor). In two weeks troops of SAA will be in position for final attack on Russia and nothing can stop me there.

P.S.When i finnish with Russia troops of Kwantung area army will march to China without paying PPs because Russia will be crushed so this house rule will be discarded. I think that is logical

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/27/2006 11:15:47 PM

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Has Russia been activated already so that he can move about??

This should be interesting as it is later in the game then most Russian assaults. He should be dug in at level 9 at all spots and might be able to put up a good fight.

My invasions were with 25 divisions in late dec 41 and Russia could not move until I attacked. Having their forces activated and dug in should be worth more then 3 divisions so you're task may be difficult.

Good luck.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/27/2006 11:18:37 PM

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quote:

Has Russia been activated already so that he can move about??

This should be interesting as it is later in the game then most Russian assaults. He should be dug in at level 9 at all spots and might be able to put up a good fight.

My invasions were with 25 divisions in late dec 41 and Russia could not move until I attacked. Having their forces activated and dug in should be worth more then 3 divisions so you're task may be difficult.

Good luck.

Russia is activated and some bloody air battle occur already. He dug in Vladivostok. With 28 divisions i will kick him out to Alaska

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/28/2006 2:54:21 AM

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Glad to see you back this should be fun to watch

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/28/2006 3:48:19 AM

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Moses, these guys played a house rule that allowed GH 30 days notice before the Japanese attack went in, so GH had good amount of time to prepare.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/28/2006 6:00:00 AM

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With 30 days to prepare I would think Russia would have shifted forces away from Vladavostock to the center so that with the center solid he will not have large numbers of forces cut off and captured. If he does this it will be a long and costly war for Japan.

The first couple months would have Japan capturing the area around Vladavostock and Russia fighting a delaying action in that area while holding everywhere else. But I think after a couple months Japan will be halted.

With 28 divisions he must have taken a lot from China and southern area Army.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/28/2006 9:53:16 AM

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quote:

Glad to see you back this should be fun to watch

Tom,firewworks is about to start

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With 28 divisions he must have taken a lot from China and southern area Army.

Actually,almost whole SAA is in Russia

,not a single chinese unit is here

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/29/2006 4:00:53 AM

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I think the strategy is sound, if he takes out Russia then he has tons of victory points and a huge army to play with.

Exicution is everything, both Hawkers attack and Hoepners defense and efforts to counter attack elsewhere. I was a little bit dissapointed that Mogami never went for Russia in the lunacy game so this is a vicarious thrill for me.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/29/2006 9:42:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: moses

With 30 days to prepare I would think Russia would have shifted forces away from Vladavostock to the center so that with the center solid he will not have large numbers of forces cut off and captured. If he does this it will be a long and costly war for Japan.

The first couple months would have Japan capturing the area around Vladavostock and Russia fighting a delaying action in that area while holding everywhere else. But I think after a couple months Japan will be halted.

With 28 divisions he must have taken a lot from China and southern area Army.

Well you can go read GH side of AAR to see what he did ( and is doing ).

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/29/2006 12:42:05 PM

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GH is still out(probably vacation

).
Few thoughts about industry:

-I am not expand any of naval shipyards,Shinano is stopped from start and i will stop RO subs.Also,CV scheduled to come in 1945 will be stopped. I was thinking of stoping Musashi but i like big ships

. With these changes i will be able to accelerate Taiho and other CVs without expanding anything. I hope to get Taiho few months earlier. Too bad i cant order my shipyards to produce 5-6 Shokaku class CVs

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-Merchant shipyards i will not change-TK is essential later in war.

AIRCRAFT PRODUCTION

-Zeros is on 200+ pcs. per month-just enough.
-Pool of Sallys is low because of extended bombardment attacks since start of war,i will expand one factory. Not a single Lily is not PDU transfered to Sally. This PDU thing is a bit gamey.
-Production of Vals,Kates,Bettys is halted.
-Only aircrafts still in production is Zeros,Sallys,Emilys,some transports,all others are halted beause i have enough of everything
-A6M3 is on 72 pcs per month-enough because A6M2 goes to A6M3a and i am not converting anything to A6M3.
-Not a single Nate is convert to Oscar

Not a single HI is not expanded,i am saving everything i can,i am not engage in pacific and DEI must be preserved long as i can. Oil and resource flowing to Japan in astonishing rate(stockpiling,stockpiling,stockpiling)
-With Russia i will get big oil plant in one town,i forget the name but i think that is on shores of Okhotsk sea. That will compensate for losses in elsewhere.

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RE: Zeros bite again!! - 1/30/2006 11:14:11 PM

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Gen.Hoepner has some e-mail problems. He will be online this night.
I am eager to get this match underway

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