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RE: re :china - 5/17/2006 11:58:21 AM   
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RE: happy new 43 year - 5/17/2006 12:03:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pauk

it seems that both of us are struck with "Allies-waiting-for-their-toys" bug

Seriously, i'm always for the house rules but realised like you, that certain house rules are two sided coins

house rules helps to avoid unhistorical results, but then can help to get unihistorical deployement of the forces - like you've experienced....




.............he who attacks the enemy of ground of his choice is a fool. I move forward when I have a chance of being at least on equal terms, to do anything else is to squander your troops.

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RE: re :china - 5/17/2006 1:17:37 PM   
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you saw only probe attacks :-)

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RE: happy new 43 year - 5/17/2006 1:34:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Raverdave


quote:

ORIGINAL: pauk

it seems that both of us are struck with "Allies-waiting-for-their-toys" bug

Seriously, i'm always for the house rules but realised like you, that certain house rules are two sided coins

house rules helps to avoid unhistorical results, but then can help to get unihistorical deployement of the forces - like you've experienced....




.............he who attacks the enemy of ground of his choice is a fool. I move forward when I have a chance of being at least on equal terms, to do anything else is to squander your troops.


greetings,

nothing wrong with that. I was refering to house rules. Since you don't have to be afraid of Japanese invasion on Karachi you don't need to have fleet there and you can send it where you want.

Like Sneer pointed it is hard to imagine that Brits would send fleet to pacific while India is threaten.

It was only the observation, not complain.....

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RE: happy new 43 year - 5/17/2006 5:21:54 PM   
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4 enemy TF 4 hexes NE of Canton Isl
BB&CV&CA spotted

raid ?
diversion ?
Do raverdave expect me to move combined fleet there ?
or maybe invasion ? but no transport spotted so far

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canton isl - 5/18/2006 5:39:20 PM   
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warm welcome to allied devils
enemy raid on Canton Isl

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/04/43

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TF 1100 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DD Lansdowne, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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TF 1153 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DMS Long
DMS Boggs

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TF 1010 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DD Pakenham, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA Van Heemskerck, Mine hits 1, on fire
CLAA Columbo, Mine hits 1, on fire
CL Birmingham, Mine hits 1, on fire

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TF 1067 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Mine hits 1, on fire

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TF 1068 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DD Lardner, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Yorktown, Mine hits 1, on fire

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TF 1094 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DD Nicholas, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Louisville, Mine hits 1, on fire

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TF 1155 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DD Monssen, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Concord
CL Detroit
CA Quincy, Shell hits 2
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1
CA New Orleans, Shell hits 1
CA Chicago, Shell hits 1
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Idaho
BB Tennessee
BB California

Japanese ground losses:
211 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 9
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 6

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CL Honolulu
CL Nashville
CA Vincennes
BB Pennsylvania
BB Arizona
BB Oklahoma
BB Nevada
BB West Virginia

Japanese ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 8

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CL Newcastle
CL Glasgow
CL Dauntless
CA Cornwall
CA Devonshire

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6
Port supply hits 1

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TF 1186 encounters mine field at Kai Island (39,78)

Japanese Ships
AK Muko Maru, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Nicholas, and is sunk
SS Blackfish, Mine hits 1

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RE: canton isl - 5/18/2006 7:06:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		whoo Yorktown hit a mine... that can be very painful away from friendly bases... Bring the subs around and you might have a great result...

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RE: re :china - 5/18/2006 7:16:57 PM   
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subs will be mauled with whole combined allied fleet in 1 hex

second Yorktown has probably small flood - should be out of action for 2-4 months only

what we saw here is good example of death star tactics - at least 7 diffrent TFs kept together

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RE: re :china - 5/18/2006 7:30:39 PM   
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RE: re :china - 5/18/2006 9:38:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		baker was mined to same extent and inflicted no damage - luck is all with minefields
but if you have many MLs you should make some use of them - at least with most obvious localisations :-)

1DD reported sunk
probably 2 more are in very bad shape and i think they will not survive
2 next heavy damaged with even chances
1cv ,2ca ,2claa ,1cl lightly/moderately damaged - nothing big but will not be able to come back into line in 1Q43 so will not participate in 1st Raverdave's offensive move

15 hits
not bad

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WITP Minefields - 5/18/2006 10:24:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Poor Raver must be regretting his decision to take all the TF's in close. However, I notice none of the BB's were tagged, even though they must have been reasonably close to deliver their bombardment. It seems to me that mining in WITP is considerably more effective than it was historically; I cannot recall even so much as a light cruiser hitting a mine in the Pacific in WWII.

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RE: re :china - 5/18/2006 11:32:21 PM   
Sneer


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miracle there was no collision there

BTW similar amount of mines were totally unsuccessful at wake and baker

i think there will be no more night raids from Raver with whole fleet

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RE: re :china - 5/20/2006 10:49:31 AM   
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report - 5/24/2006 11:46:33 AM   
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nothing to report in last 2 week
some submarine mine warfare
some night MSW allied action at canton
B24 from Midway targeting Wake
usual B17 from darwin against Timor

if Raverdave wants me falling asleep and later striking hard he will probably succeed
Chungking currently quiet
troops regain strenght
i had 6000 AV now it is close to 9000 also 6000+ guns and 2500+ engineers
i should be able to lower forts in a few days


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RE: report - 5/25/2006 1:07:20 PM   
Sneer


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i made 2 combat patrols with my carriers into deep pacific but could not find any target ( using break into Canton ISL area)
when i moved to base i found enemy TFs
only few planes attacked in p.m. phaseDay Air attack on TF at 101,103

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 40
D3A Val x 46
A6M3a Zero x 133
B5N Kate x 31

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 36
F4F-4 Wildcat x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 18 destroyed
D3A Val: 5 destroyed, 29 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 17 destroyed
B5N Kate: 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire: 21 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 52 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Indiana, Bomb hits 4
CVE Sangamon, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 2
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CVE Chenango, Bomb hits 4, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 16000 feet
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 16000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 16000 feet
7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 101,103

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
B5N Kate x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Chenango, on fire
BB Indiana, Bomb hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 16000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 16000 feet

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nice - looks like ground forces are ready

Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 524190 troops, 4847 guns, 536 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 10542

Defending force 180729 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 5053



Allied ground losses:
216 casualties reported

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RE: report - 5/25/2006 1:27:08 PM   
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Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 40
D3A Val x 46
A6M3a Zero x 133
B5N Kate x 31

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 36
F4F-4 Wildcat x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 18 destroyed
D3A Val: 5 destroyed, 29 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 17 destroyed
B5N Kate: 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire: 21 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 52 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Indiana, Bomb hits 4
CVE Sangamon, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 2
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CVE Chenango, Bomb hits 4, on fire


That's a great example of why one does not try to use CVEs as Fleet Carriers...

What's the game-date of this action?

Thanks -

Dave Baranyi

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RE: report - 5/25/2006 2:09:53 PM   
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RE: re :china - 5/25/2006 2:22:55 PM   
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RE: re :china - 5/25/2006 2:27:16 PM   
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RE: re :china - 5/25/2006 2:38:10 PM   
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Carrier battle - 5/25/2006 2:44:48 PM   
Sneer


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major battle close toi sydney Isl
my 4 KB carrier division divided
1 of them even is they were set all to do not refuel was 1 hex late :-(
enemy as always - i'm not lucky enough stroke first
cap did nice job but it was not enough
but retaliation strike was coordinated 3 division (12carriers) strike and 3 enemy carriers are sunk
Saratoga , Lexington and Enterprise are below waves
2 fast BB are certainly damaged too
losses - confidential - 1 carrier will not manage and rest have some chances ... i'm far away
more soon ....

Day Air attack on TF at 101,104

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 18
A6M2 Zero x 2
A6M3 Zero x 9
A6M3a Zero x 41

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 32
SBD Dauntless x 68
Swordfish x 14
TBF Avenger x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 12 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire: 5 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 28 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 24 destroyed, 20 damaged
Swordfish: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
TBF Avenger: 16 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 2
CV Hiyo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Akagi
CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 3
BB Musashi
CVE Taiyo
CA Chikuma

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
5 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
6 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
7 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 101,104

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
A6M2 Zero x 1
A6M3 Zero x 6
A6M3a Zero x 23

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi
CV Hiyo, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 101,104

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
A6M2 Zero x 1
A6M3 Zero x 8
A6M3a Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
SBD Dauntless x 34
TBF Avenger x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 12 destroyed, 10 damaged
TBF Avenger: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Kongo
BB Nagato
BB Musashi, Bomb hits 2
CV Hiyo, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 102,102

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 31
D3A Val x 131
A6M3a Zero x 63
B5N Kate x 147

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 83

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 18 destroyed
D3A Val: 17 destroyed, 38 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 32 destroyed
B5N Kate: 30 destroyed, 73 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire: 8 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 65 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Northampton, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Saratoga, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
BB Washington, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA San Diego
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 102,102

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 16
A6M3a Zero x 12
B5N Kate x 16

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N Kate: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 destroyed
Seafire: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Washington, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 102,102

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 23
A6M3a Zero x 7
B5N Kate x 15

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Washington, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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RE: re :china - 5/25/2006 2:46:48 PM   
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RE: re :china - 5/25/2006 2:48:40 PM   
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RE: re :china - 5/25/2006 2:53:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		so Zuiho is dead for sure, can Hiyo and Akagi be protected ? if they can go fast enough, you could cover them with all the rest of KB.... it would be quite risky from him to go at you with all he has left...

hm... 101;104, where is that again ?

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RE: re :china - 5/25/2006 2:56:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		does he have an AF nearby or are all the carrier planes gone with the waves ???

well... Enjoy what is probably your last big carrier battle success, hopefully you don't pay too heavy a price in the aftermath..

Pics ?

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report - 5/25/2006 3:00:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		5-7 hexes SE from canton isl
i doubt he can strike my carriers
he has 1 british CV or two but without Swordfishes
1cvl already damaged
few CVE
yorktown was damaged and probably is not here
i have 3 carrier divisions untouched with only moderate damage
BTW carriers should reach cover from canton ISL so now few enemy planes should be repulsed
Zuiho - it can survive but chances are small
rest .... moderate damages only

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RE: report - 5/25/2006 3:03:22 PM   
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Once again it has been proven that counterattacks before 1944 only work if you had a midway style battle with comparable results; as long as KB is still active, it will kill you

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RE: report - 5/25/2006 3:05:12 PM   
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there was no major carrier battle till now

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RE: report - 5/25/2006 3:06:50 PM   
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RE: re :china - 5/25/2006 3:08:04 PM   
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did you know his carriers are there or it was a surprise for you?
101;104 - should be somewhere NE of Canton is. correct?

Yorktown hit mine
CVEs damaged
3 CVs sunk

Nice results in the beginning of 43´.

EDIT: I see the most of it was meanwhile replied and my localization was wrong

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