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RE: JAP SURFACE TF HITS CARRIERS - 10/30/2006 7:16:39 PM

Andy Mac

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You have to love Cleveland class CL's and Fletcher class DD's

For one DD with heavy damage I think I will sink 4 Jap DD's

I expect Cowpens to be ok but this TF is running on fumes and will need to withdraw south to re arm anyway

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/04/44

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Night Time Surface Combat at 24,53

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 4
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 1
DD Makigumo, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DD Naganami, Shell hits 1
DD Natsugumo, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Nenohi, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shinonome, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
CV Hancock
CV Bennington, Shell hits 1
CV Yorktown
CVL Cowpens, Torpedo hits 1
CVL Monterey, Shell hits 1, on fire
CLAA San Diego, Shell hits 1
CL Montpelier, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Santa Fe, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Abbot
DD Bullard, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Callaghan
DD Caperton
DD Chevalier
DD Cogswell, Shell hits 1
DD Cony
DD Spence

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USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/30/2006 7:28:23 PM

Andy Mac

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A bloody day in the air !!!!!!

2 waves of Jap bombers attacked a carrier TF coming to hell with the losses and the allied pilots rose to meet them warned of their approach by radar but it wasnt enough USS Independence ate 2 fish and will be out of the fight for a while !!!!

(That was 50% CAP so my pilots rose of their own accord !!!)

Meantime the attack of 3rd USMC Div, 33rd US Div and my armour carries on up the peninsula brushing aside innefectual resistance !!!

Andy

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/05/44

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 9
N1K1-J George x 6
J2M Jack x 11
A6M5c Zeke x 7
G4M2 Betty x 7
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 8
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 105
F4U-1D Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 9 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 6 destroyed
J2M Jack: 11 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 7 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 7 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 8 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 7 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 11 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Essex

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 31
N1K1-J George x 2
J2M Jack x 10
D4Y Judy x 19
A6M5c Zeke x 3
B7A Grace x 20
G4M1 Betty x 23
G4M2 Betty x 25
P1Y Frances x 29
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 45
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 15
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 32
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 93
F4U-1D Corsair x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
J2M Jack: 10 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 7 destroyed, 5 damaged
A6M5c Zeke: 3 destroyed
B7A Grace: 15 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 11 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 14 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 39 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 11 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 29 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 12 destroyed, 14 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 11 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Wasp
CV Saratoga
CVL Independence, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CVL Belleau Wood

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Ground combat at Taiping

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 13567 troops, 0 guns, 714 vehicles, Assault Value = 987

Defending force 9079 troops, 92 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 168

Allied max assault: 702 - adjusted assault: 268

Japanese max defense: 147 - adjusted defense: 113

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Taiping base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
250 casualties reported
Guns lost 23

Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 22

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/30/2006 9:33:23 PM

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can you fly in more troops to malaysia so that you don't have to run thegauntlet of DDs and air attacks?

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 1:14:20 AM

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Not really medk only my PBY's are in range !!!!

OK its time to cure the cancer that is Singapore clearly the straits are off limits until it is neutralised so the attack is ordered

5 Bomber Gps of B29's 250 ships from Banja
1 Recon Sqn from Kuala Lumper

4 Seperate Bases have fighters supporting the attack

Malacca has about 100 top line fighters on sweep and about 50 on escort (mostly P40N's)
Carriers in malacca port have about another 150 FM2's mostly - 50/50 on escort sweep

Kuala Lumper has 60 P38's and 36 F4U1D's

Wasp TF has about 120 F6F's and 36 F4U1D's
Bennington TF has the same in a different hex

OK so the plan is that these 4 bases will support the attack if 1 gets clouded out I will be ok, 2 is ok, 3 not so good, 4 is disaster stakes as 250 B29's go to their death !!!!

I have spread my risk but it is far from risk free operation

Andy

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 1:25:19 AM

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For all those allied players getting to 44 watch your AK's I would kill for 50 more now on the West Coast run.

I have about 2m (1m just leaving or loading at West Coast) tonnes at sea at present with about 500k at Darwin and the same at Rabaul/ Kwaj/ Tarawa and Pearl

But ITS NOT Enough

Allied LBA eats supplies at a huge rate of knots.

Only Malaya of my forward bases is in decent shape with 150k all the others are between 30 - 50k which is not enough.

To run proper continuos offensive ops the allies need about 600,000 tonnes a MONTH arriving at the front that does not include fuel or stockpiling for future operations so 85 - 90 Full AK's a month

It takes about 6 weeks for AK's to make the trip Australia - West Coast so a round trip is about 12 weeks

So allowing for no dumping of supplies and no down time the allies need a MINIMUM of 255 - 270 Large AK's full time on the West Coast run in 44.

Any disruption is nasty.

This is why a CENTPAC offensive is really worth thinking about the same strength offensive can be launched with half that level of AK support.

Fighting out of North Aus is hard on my supply lines I find I am pulling AK's off of amphib support duties to assist with supply hauling.

Unfortuantely decisions I make today will take 6 - 12 weeks to make themselves felt at the front.

Andy

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 1:26:54 AM

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p.s. 43 MUST be used to forward dump supplies at likely offensive springboard sites do not get tempted into wholesale use of AK's for amphib ops you will need every single one !!!

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 1:41:26 AM

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How do you run your supply train??

Do you get a large TF of AK's and send out one large TF to PH or do they go through Pago Pago (or someplace down there) to Australia?? Do you keep the size the same or as available for transport??
I have played to late '43 against the AI and try to keep the AK TF from 5 to 10 ships and only escort them once they get close to potential harm.
Just curious about how you do it as so few of us players have gotten as far as you.

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 1:49:37 AM

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It varies to be honest

I have some on the direct route to Aus
Some going to Tarawa or Kwaj
Some going to PH
Some to rabaul

Tankers are more trouble as they need to replenish and again I mix it up typically I have some TF's on autoconvoy to my nodal bases others heading to a holding base before deciding where the suplies are needed (Canton is good for this).

My convoys vary from 5 - 10 AK's and 3 - 5 tankers with escort when KB is still a threat to 50 AK, 30 Tanker super convoys often covered in the exposed areas by forward deploying carriers.

I have so many CVE's/DE's now that most convoys are reasonably well protected have a decent chance against most raiders.

Continuos ops by 4E and 2E bombers plus FB's just eat supplies.

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 10:35:24 AM

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More than a tactical wargame this is now turning into the hunt for AK's and supply stockpiles

I was expecting to attack from CENTPAC to the marianas in June and to fight a 1 - 2 month battle there so I had stockpiled c 2.5m supply and 2m fuel - this was going on throughout Hydra.

I then switched my focus of attack and based it out of North Aus and SWPAC but by thta stage I had exhausted my stockpiled supply and fuel supporting Hydra i.e. I had less than 1.5m supply and fuel on hand going forward.

I had planned on restocking during the Marianas but obviously plans change.

With hindsight I may have been better to have went in at the Marianas purely on logistics grounds

Just to give one example

Banja now has several B29Gps operating from it its MONTHLY supply requirement with no repairs to A/C, upgrades to facilites etc etc is 85,000 tonnes.

To put that in context it is about a 6 week round trip from my terminus on East Coast of Aus to Banja through hostile waters for the last week so to just meet the supply needs of that one AF requires about 30 7,000 tonne AK's plus escorts and escort carriers

That one base is absorbing 14% of all supplies shipped into SWPAC.

After the next series of raids to close Singapore I will be forced on logistical grounds to withdraw all B29's back to Australia.

I can only operate them for about 3 days and any thoughts of putting them into Malaya for more than a single week of raids is a pipe dream until I get the logistics sorted.

I know it sounds crazy but the c 1.5m supply I have in SWPAC/Aus/ -> Malaya is no where near enough for the offensives I am running.

I have about 60 AK's at Malacca at present and I need them all out of there and back on cargo runs ASAP.

Now that my forces are ashore and operating I think I will need to pause for a few weeks to allow stockpiles to recover.

It is ALL about logistics for now !!!

Andy

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 10:41:55 AM

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p.s. to all Japanese players sink every AK you can find at all times throughout the game !!!

1. In 44 a Jap Carrier for 15 - 20 allied AK's sunk or damaged is a GOOD trade
2. Commerce Raiding is your friend
3. Dislocation caused by the threat of commerce raiding is almost as good.

Do NOT let the allies send Brit AK's to augment the West Coast Run keep the route from India closed if I was able to supply Aus/Malaya from India this would be a cakewalk !!!!

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 10:48:39 AM

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But the previous allied players suffered horrideous AK losses in the first years of the war because of PzB's agressiveness, so given your situation, you're still maintaining a very good rythm in my opinion.

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 11:12:59 AM

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Aye perhaps but it is a real pinch point now 200 more AK's would make me comfortable.

I am also still short of escorts for my Carriers last week I had 2 CL's and a CLAA escorting 3 fleet and 2 Light Carriers Fletchers and Cleveland class ships are capable but that really should have been 2 TF's with perhaps another 10 escorts at least 1 BB or CA to each.

I just dont have them available

Richelieu is now in West COast Yards as is Maryland 2 more are en route.

5 Carriers are in refit

I am just stretched all round but I know that every day I give PZB makes it harder.

My Armour has stormed up the coast of Malaya because he didnt have forts built because I struck deep.

The need to exploit and keep going forward is driving me on every day I wait it becomes so much harder and so much more bloody

Speed, Audacity (Lunacy ???) and a willingness to take Admin risks are what is driving me BUT I always need to bear in mind how Slim defeated the Japanese it was all about logistics and letting them exhaust themselves I am very close to the point now in the West where logistical risks are tipping over to be logisitical suicide. I am not quite there yet but I can see it coming on the horizon.

I have 4 Corps in Australia/New Britain and I DONT have the logistics to forward deploy !!!!

The 6 ish Divs in Malaya are pretty much all I can deploy and support while I am running B29's from Borneo.

Andy

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 12:39:46 PM

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how much longer before you can start doing things with the Chinese army -- or is it effectively out of the mix?

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 1:15:38 PM

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Chinese are out of it thats one theatre I dont want to reopen I will bomb PZB IN China but not FROM China

But it is likely to be one or 2 harrassing raids rather than a campaign because of my supply status

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 1:54:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Chinese are out of it thats one theatre I dont want to reopen I will bomb PZB�IN China but not FROM China

But it is likely to be one or 2 harrassing raids rather than a campaign because of my supply status

With India lost, I figured there wasn't much chance of opening up the Chinese front -- although your success in Malaysia could open up a path to the Chinese, couldn't it?

Sorry for all the questions, but what's the current VP status?

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 2:06:08 PM

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No problem with questions I actually have no idea of VP's I suspect I am still behind but I have not looked in months I want to win by DESTROYING the Japanese points are an irrelevance

I will check tonight.

I suspect if I advance out of Malaya to try and re open the China front PZB would feel free to use China Army units to stop me.

Its a can of worms I just dont want to open.

I probably should check if he would use them to defend in Burma or Thailand it could affect my next moves

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 10/31/2006 4:12:48 PM

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Andy, that was a very interesting little discussion of logistics and it's importance. You're saying much the same thing the commanders IRL said. I guess Matrix did something right after all (if you listen to some people around here).

As a JFB, thanks for the suggestions. I have wondered about that. I really don't know how much supply is required by the Allies in the later war offensives, nor do I really know how many AK they get. The Japanese early war offensives really were on a showstring.

Great AAR. It's very interesting to read your perspective and then read PzB's take on the same thing.

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 11/1/2006 2:00:01 AM

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OK the plan worked my land bases were were uncovered in the am and heavy strikes went in from malacca and Taiping

Over 90 Allied fighters lost in the main airbattle but it was worth it as it opened a hole for my Superforts !!!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/06/44

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 47
N1K1-J George x 10
J2M Jack x 17
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 47
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 18
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 43
Ki-102a Randy x 15

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 59
F6F Hellcat x 18
P-38J Lightning x 79

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 20 destroyed, 1 damaged
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
J2M Jack: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 35 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 34 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 39 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 10 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 45 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
N1K1-J George x 4
J2M Jack x 5
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 4
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 30
P-38J Lightning x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 9 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed
J2M Jack: 4 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 8 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
J2M Jack x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 6 destroyed
J2M Jack: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

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HOORA !!!!

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4
J2M Jack x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 74
P-40N Warhawk x 38
B-29 Superfortress x 257

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 25 destroyed
J2M Jack: 15 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 28 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 13 destroyed
A6M5c Zeke: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 17 destroyed
B7A Grace: 24 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed
J1N1-S Irving: 2 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 6 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 9 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 7 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
631 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Airbase hits 75
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 386

Aircraft Attacking:

2 More days then I withdraw the superforts before my supplies run out !!!

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 25

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Shinonome, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 12
TBM Avenger x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,57

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged

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My armoured spearheads have advanced 180 miles in 4 days against weak resistance basically the japs dont have AT weapons that can penetrate Sherman/Grant front armour I have 300 Tank in my spearhead and it has worked the AF's are MINE !!!

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 44

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at Alor Star

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 13216 troops, 0 guns, 691 vehicles, Assault Value = 431

Defending force 6649 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 99

Allied max assault: 670 - adjusted assault: 217

Japanese max defense: 76 - adjusted defense: 43

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Alor Star base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
687 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

Allied ground losses:
182 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 9

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 11/1/2006 2:13:36 AM

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No turn yet I will get it form PZB tomorrow or Thursday so I will report more then

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 11/1/2006 6:20:36 PM

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Still no turn but I have been thinking apart from the Malayan campaign and perhaps a few little clean up operations I hate to say it but I am going to need to pull in my horns for about 6 weeks I cannot keep up the tempo in the air on the ground or at sea that I have been maintaining I dont have the supplies.

I need to get the AK's currently in Malaya back onto the West Coast or local runs ASAP and rest my active fleet.

I still have supply stockpiled in rear bases accross the south pacific and it needs to be consolidated.

My combat arm could just about keep up continuos ops but my logistics cannot.

At the end of 43 I ordered a complete halt after I captured Rabaul for 2 months while I reorganised and got ready for Hydra I almost need to do it again for the drive on Japan.

I dont want to but if my attacks are to be on a proper prepared basis with rested organised ships with adequate replacement aircraft and pilots etc etc then I need to do it properly. (slow but sure the Monty way !!!)

I can pick off a few lesser bases but I need to dramatically scale back the forward deployed aircraft

2 Massive convoys with over 1 million supply and fuel are loading in the west coast escorted by several fleet carriers.

The transit time to SWPAC is 6 - 8 weeks.

I think between consolidating supply and getting the AK's out of the Malacca strait I am done for a while its been a good run I will finish of Singapore and Malaya with the forces in place and begin the planning for the next stage.

(If I was playing the "game" I could probably continue without the pause and send in troops un prepared although against an opponent as dangerous as PZB I am not sure thats a good idea !!! but I am not I am fighting a "war" I will therefore accept what the logisticians have been telling me and slow down a little Wasile/ Borneo/ Sulawesi/ all sorts of places will lose some of their aircraft and engineers will be redistributed i need an admin pause to rebuild some stockpiles)

p.s in case anyone is in any doubt I HATE ADMIN PAUSES they drive me batty ---- but thye are neccessary

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RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 11/4/2006 12:51:10 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/07/44

MALACCA STRAIT

Going well my TF fight off Jap bombers and my TF begin to transit the strait I need those AK's back on the West Coast run ASAP

Mines are a real annoynce another valuable Cruiser hits one and takes hefty damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 27
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 13
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 7 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Kadashan Bay

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TF 1049 encounters mine field at 26056224,22

Allied Ships
MSW Wallaroo
MSW Lismore
MSW Bundaberg
MSW Bunbury
MSW Mildura
MSW Lark
MSW Warrnambool
MSW Bittern
DD Burns
DD Black
DD Charles Badger
CL Mobile, Mine hits 1 - Bollocks these minefileds are gettign annoying

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TF 1061 encounters mine field at 26056224,21

Allied Ships
MSW Gympie
MSW Kapunda

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TF 1090 encounters mine field at 26056224,21

Allied Ships
DE Donaldson
DE Fleming
DE Charles R. Greer
APD George E. Badger
APD Newman
APD Barr
AK Stephen M. White, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Duffy
APD Dickerson
APD Reeves

Singapore

Day 2 the sweepgoes in and the Superforts finish off the AF.

Thats it I NEED to withdraw the B29 Gps they are eating up so many supplies its unreal the job is done they are pulling out

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 28
P-38J Lightning x 36

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 235

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 20 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 4 destroyed
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 11 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 7 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 15 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 2 destroyed
J2M Jack: 5 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
ML Ma 2, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
ML Ma 1, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
PC Shonan Maru #7, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kotobuki Maru #3, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Risen Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
TK Matsumoto Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Tamo Maru #7, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
397 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 222
Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 56
F4U-1D Corsair x 17

No Allied losses

Day Air attack on TF at 24,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 21
P1Y Frances x 12
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Windham Bay
CVE Fanshaw Bay
CVE Kadashan Bay

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet

OK My armoured spearhead has secured Songkia time to turn it round finish off Georgetown and then Drive on Singapore 27th Inf will garrison the base and some Seabeees will come up to fortify it

NORTH MALAYA
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Ground combat at Songkhia

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10573 troops, 0 guns, 555 vehicles, Assault Value = 400

Defending force 5042 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 91

Allied max assault: 426 - adjusted assault: 146

Japanese max defense: 77 - adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Songkhia base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
588 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 14

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Jap Paras try to cut my LOC I will need to watch out for this

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Ground combat at Alor Star

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 239 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 19777 troops, 209 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 535

Japanese max assault: 10 - adjusted assault: 0

Allied max defense: 472 - adjusted defense: 709

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

(in reply to Andy Mac)

Post #: 1371

RE: USN Independence Hit !!! - 11/4/2006 12:59:09 PM

Andy Mac

Posts: 15222
Joined: 5/12/2004
From: Alexandria, Scotland
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/08/44

MALACCA STRAIT

The evac is under way my TF's with the additonal infantry move in with another 100lk of supplies and the fresh base forces but thats the last of them no more will be sent for a while the troops present will need to get the job done alone.

These mines are seriously getting to be annoying the Malacaa strait is infested with them !!!!

Various air artacks are launched on my retreating TF's but no hits are achieved

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TF 1049 encounters mine field at 26056224,22

Allied Ships
MSW Wallaroo
MSW Lismore
MSW Bundaberg
MSW Bunbury
MSW Mildura
MSW Lark
MSW Warrnambool
MSW Bittern
LCI LCI-331, Mine hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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TF 1076 encounters mine field at 26056224,22

Allied Ships
MSW Ungava
MSW Quatsino
MSW Bungaree
MSW Geelong
MSW Cootamundra
MSW Tamworth
DE Martin
AK Otis Skinner, Mine hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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ASW attack at 22,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-54, hits 15, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
AP Empire Tamar
LST LST-241
LST LST-226
LST LST-225
AP Hunter Liggett
MSW Bobolink
MSW Scuffle
MSW Scrimage
MSW Saunter
MSW Salute
MSW Scout
DE Sederstrom
DE Edward C. Daly

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ASW attack at 22,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-48, hits 9

Allied Ships
MSW Ungava
MSW Quatsino
MSW Bungaree
AK Nathaniel Crosby
AK John B. Floyd
MSW Geelong
MSW Cootamundra
MSW Tamworth
DE Stadtfeld
DE Mitchell

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Sub attack at 22,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-34, hits 2

Allied Ships
LCT LCT-146

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Sub attack at 22,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-34, hits 15, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
AK Joliet Victory, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Jubal A. Early
AK James M. Clements
LCI(G) LCI(G)-79
LST LST-466
LST LST-465
LST LST-460
LST LST-335
LST LST-246
LST LST-244
LST LST-85
LST LST-81
LSV Catskill
MSW Stawell
MSW Canso
MSW Junee
MSW Grebe
MSW Burnie
MSW Buoyant
MSW Triumph
MSW Parkes
DE Deede

SINGAPORE

Singapore is all quiet AF is closed but I have withdrawn the B29's I cannot keep them operational

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 56
F4U-1D Corsair x 16

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 25
P-38J Lightning x 36

No Allied losses

Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 20
SB2C Helldiver x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Konan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 20
SB2C Helldiver x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Keijo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 19
G4M2 Betty x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
F6F Hellcat x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
TK L.P. St. Clair, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,57

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 9 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Bullard, Kamikaze hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

ACTION OFF OF BORNEO

LR Attacks launched on Jap surface TF looks like some crippling damage PZB will withdraw them now they have been spotted.

Only a few bombers took part the rest were busy
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Day Air attack on TF at 26,50

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 13
TBM Avenger x 8

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 2
CA Kinugasa
CL Isuzu

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 26,50

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 8

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 26,50

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 24
TBM Avenger x 17

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged
TBM Avenger: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Arashio
CL Isuzu, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Asakaze
DD Isonami, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Yahagi, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yunagi
CA Kinugasa

Aircraft Attacking:

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No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on TF at 26,50

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 6
TBM Avenger x 6

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
DD Naganami
DD Hato

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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(in reply to Andy Mac)

Post #: 1372

Black Day in the Malacca Strait - 11/4/2006 1:15:43 PM

Andy Mac

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/09/44

MALACCA STRAIT AND SINGAPORE

Action in the strait is reducing as most TF's have transited.

1st US CAv and 11th Aus Div are starting to unload.

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TF 1115 encounters mine field at 26056224,22

Allied Ships
MSW Whippoorwill

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TF 1067 encounters mine field at Banjarmasin (27,64)

Allied Ships
DD Abbot

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 58
F4U-1D Corsair x 17

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
P-38J Lightning x 31

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 18

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Konan Maru, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:

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Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 12
TBM Avenger x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Keijo Maru, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:

ACTION OFF OF SUMATRA

The day started well more un coordinated attacks all appeared well but it WASNT TO LAST !!!!

Day Air attack on TF at 33,76

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Potter

Aircraft Attacking:

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Day Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 5

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 44
F6F Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 44
F6F Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 3 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

SO FAR SO GOOD

A Small DD TF got caught by Betties !!!!

Nasty and annoying but these attritional losses are to be expected when operating over such distances --- its just not possible to secure every TF

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Day Air attack on TF at 30,72

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22
G4M2 Betty x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 19 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Richard Leary, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK American Leader
DD McCall, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DE Levy, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:

Now the crap hit the fan !!!! No Fleet carriers these TF's are protected by Wildcats andf the pilot quality is so so !!!!

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Day Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 43
J2M Jack x 13
D4Y Judy x 24
B7A Grace x 9
P1Y Frances x 18
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 22
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 7
Ki-21 Sally x 11

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 44
F6F Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 17 destroyed, 1 damaged
J2M Jack: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
D4Y Judy: 5 destroyed, 7 damaged
B7A Grace: 9 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 15 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 40 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 11 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Steamer Bay, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

CVE Marcus Island
CVE Rudyerd Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

CVE Wake Island

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
8 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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But then the follow up raid comes in with LOTS of BETTIES OUCH

I got cocky and paid for it a Fleet carrier TF has been ordered to rendevous and beef up the cap it should be there tomorrow

2 CVE sank straight away 2 more will definitly sink 2 are so so

so 4 Carriers sank in one day.

Day Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 8
J2M Jack x 2
B7A Grace x 9
G4M1 Betty x 3
G4M2 Betty x 62

P1Y Frances x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 5

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 29 damaged
P1Y Frances: 4 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 14 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, Torpedo hits 2, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

CVE Savo Island
CVE Nassau, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

CVE Steamer Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

CVE Wake Island, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

CVE Rudyerd Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

LST LST-119, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Marcus Island, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:

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Day Air attack on TF at 21,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 2
P1Y Frances x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Bootes, Torpedo hits 1
LST LST-464

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6
F6F Hellcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 6 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
LCI LCI-85
AK William M. Stewart, Torpedo hits 1
APD Newman

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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And then A third wave comes in hitting the Transports this TF had plenty of AA support so it survived

Day Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 5
G4M2 Betty x 28
P1Y Frances x 15
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 2
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
APD Talbot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK S. African Victory
LCI LCI-435
AK William C. Claiborne, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
APD Belknap
AP La Salle
LCI LCI-587
LCI LCI-525
DE Fleming
LCI LCI-445, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Mount McKinley
AP Hercules, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
LCI LCI-446, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
LCI LCI-402

Aircraft Attacking:

Last but not least PZB sent that TF that I spotted last night in to finish the job unfortunately for them they ran straight into Iowa and New Jersey who ripped the heart out of the Jap TF

4 or 5 IJN BB's could have made this a real bloodbath so I got lucky that PZB 'only' committed Cruisers and DD's that were no match for the Iowa/NJ Battlegroup

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Day Time Surface Combat at 22,54

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Naganami, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Arashio, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Ayanami, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minazuki, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Yuzuki
DD Asakaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yunagi, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kiji, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey, Shell hits 2
CA Baltimore
CA Pittsburgh, Shell hits 1
CA Chicago, Shell hits 1
CA Detroit
DD Cassin Young
DD Swanson
DD Wilkes
DD Lansdowne, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hobby

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Day Time Surface Combat at 22,54

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Kinugasa, on fire, heavy damage
DD Naganami, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Arashio, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ayanami, and is sunk
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minazuki, on fire
DD Yuzuki
DD Asakaze, on fire
DD Yunagi, on fire
DD Kiji, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Iowa, Shell hits 1
BB New Jersey
CA Baltimore
CA Pittsburgh
CA Chicago
CA Detroit
DD Cassin Young
DD Swanson
DD Wilkes
DD Lansdowne, on fire
DD Hobby

CONCLUSION

To all you players out there limiting CAP to 50% and stacking no more than 4 USN Carrier in one hex makes the game play a LOT more realistically. I suspect it would also make the IJN play more historicallyif the unsinkable KB in the ealry game if a 50% CAP and no more than 6 IJN Fleet carrier per hex rule was adopted.

Seriously it is worth thinking about I got egg on my face and suffered casualties that dont feel over the top for securing Malaya - certainly made it more tense ..... an interesting day

(in reply to Andy Mac)

Post #: 1373

RE: Black Day in the Malacca Strait - 11/4/2006 1:17:06 PM

Andy Mac

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I just dont believe PZB came in anyway after being spotted !!!

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Post #: 1374

RE: Black Day in the Malacca Strait - 11/4/2006 1:52:58 PM

Nemo121

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Kudos to you for being willing to give up ueberCAP and create a more interesting game.

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Post #: 1375

RE: Black Day in the Malacca Strait - 11/4/2006 1:58:12 PM

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Yes, thanks for that Andy. Even if the war lingers one, no-one may criticize your ability, don't worry - I'm sure there are really few allied commanders who'd like to be in your position right now. I am sure PzB is happy too to have such a capable and fairplay opponent.

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Post #: 1376

RE: Black Day in the Malacca Strait - 11/4/2006 2:10:05 PM

Andy Mac

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I was throwing things at the screen when those strikes came in but then that cruiser TF ran smack dab into Iowa I call yesterday a victory ofr PZB but not as bad as it could be.

(had he committed his remaining Battleships yesterday could have been VERY VERY Nasty !!!)

Note to self : NEVER EVER UNDERESTIMATE PZB WITH SURFACE TF's HE USES THEM LIKE A KENDO MASTER

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RE: Black Day in the Malacca Strait - 11/4/2006 5:46:53 PM

Andy Mac

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My bombers find and sink Kingusa another of those dangerous Jap CA's bites the bullet

Apart from that a relatively quiet turn as my evac continues

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/10/44

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TF 1077 encounters mine field at 26056224,22

Allied Ships
DD Evans
DD Dashiell

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Night Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
H8K Emily x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
LST LST-354
LST LST-465

Aircraft Attacking:
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Night Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
H8K Emily x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
LST LST-465
LST LST-171
LCI(G) LCI(G)-79

Aircraft Attacking:
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TF 1005 encounters mine field at 26056224,22

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #7, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, and is sunk
MSW Bellechasse
MSW Velocity
MSW Tumult
MSW Token
MSW Competent
MSW Champion
MSW Prevail
MSW Impeccable
MSW Spear
DE Austin
AK Prince L. Campbell, Mine hits 2, on fire

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 41
P-38J Lightning x 32

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Brunei , at 32,57

Allied aircraft
P-47D Thunderbolt x 22

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
Spitfire VIII x 9

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79

Allied aircraft
F6F-5N Hellcat x 13
Hurricane II x 9

No Allied losses

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x F6F-5N Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 3
PB4Y Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
J2M Jack: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 81,84

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 22
P-40N Warhawk x 31

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
20 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
11 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
11 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 84th Chinese Corps, at 43,35

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 48

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B7A Grace bombing at 10000 feet
24 x B7A Grace bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 25th Ind.Mixed/A Brigade, at 44,75

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 48
Boomerang II x 8

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 25
N1K1-J George x 11
J2M Jack x 4
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 50
F6F Hellcat x 49
SB2C Helldiver x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 19 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed
J2M Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 19 destroyed, 10 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 18 destroyed, 7 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa, Bomb hits 16, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,75

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
AV Currituck, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS Long

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,54

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 61
F6F Hellcat x 53
F4U-1D Corsair x 16
P-38J Lightning x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 35
N1K1-J George x 3
J2M Jack x 11
D4Y Judy x 13
G4M2 Betty x 24
P1Y Frances x 19
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 61
F6F Hellcat x 53
F4U-1D Corsair x 16
P-38J Lightning x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 35 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
J2M Jack: 11 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 6 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 16 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 13 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 5 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 9 destroyed, 9 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 22,52

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Talbot, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,52

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CVE Steamer Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 26

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
N1K1-J George x 2
G4M2 Betty x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
F6F Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK William M. Stewart

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,54

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 7
G4M2 Betty x 9
P1Y Frances x 13

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 34
F6F Hellcat x 15
F4U-1D Corsair x 12
P-38J Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 14

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Bootes, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Ki-67 Peggy bombing at 7000 feet

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Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31375 troops, 364 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 761

Defending force 24472 troops, 219 guns, 132 vehicles, Assault Value = 499

Japanese ground losses:
246 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 2

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Ground combat at Sinkep Island

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 67 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Defending force 1074 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Allied max assault: 2 - adjusted assault: 0

Japanese max defense: 2 - adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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RE: Black Day in the Malacca Strait - 11/4/2006 9:59:15 PM

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RE: Black Day in the Malacca Strait - 11/5/2006 3:59:32 PM

Andy Mac

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OK quiet turn my supply convoys have now left the West Coast so the clock starts now for future operations about 1m supply and 1m fuel are en route covered by several carriers.

I am concentrating additional carriers as they are repaired at Pearl.

Georgetown fell and interestingly 27 Sqn with Blenheim NF's appeared the next day obviously hiding in the hills for three years !!!!! Hey I am happy a NF Sqn will come in handy whne upgraded to Beaus

I am starting to move my forces south leaving the 24th Div to hold the north

It is time to reconcentrate at Malacca and hit Johore and the Singapore time is marching on I want this campaign over so I can move on to the next phase !!!!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/11/44

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 48
J2M Jack x 27
D4Y Judy x 95
B6N Jill x 26
G4M2 Betty x 26
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 35

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 88

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 20
P-38J Lightning x 31

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Sampit , at 26,62

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 17
B-25J Mitchell x 48

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Brunei , at 32,57

Allied aircraft
P-47D Thunderbolt x 21

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
Spitfire VIII x 9

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 3
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed
J2M Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 84th Chinese Corps, at 43,35

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 47

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 25th Ind.Mixed/A Brigade, at 44,75

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 48
Boomerang II x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 40,76

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied Ships
DMS Elliot
AR Charles P. Steinmetz, Bomb hits 1
AV Currituck

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 51
F6F Hellcat x 42
F4U-1D Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 51
F6F Hellcat x 42
F4U-1D Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 6
Ki-67 Peggy x 15

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 51
F6F Hellcat x 41
F4U-1D Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 5 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 51
F6F Hellcat x 40
F4U-1D Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 11

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 51
F6F Hellcat x 40
F4U-1D Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 26

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 52
F6F Hellcat x 31
F4U-1D Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 12
Ki-67 Peggy x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1
FM-2 Wildcat x 52
F6F Hellcat x 31
F4U-1D Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

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Ground combat at Georgetown

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 42793 troops, 318 guns, 529 vehicles, Assault Value = 1169

Defending force 6778 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Allied max assault: 1840 - adjusted assault: 593

Japanese max defense: 99 - adjusted defense: 20

Allied assault odds: 29 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Georgetown base !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
1216 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
453 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 10

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Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31374 troops, 363 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 762

Defending force 26559 troops, 257 guns, 132 vehicles, Assault Value = 495

Japanese ground losses:
167 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

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