Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: doktorblood

Trying to take Changsha from a large Chinese force that is dug in is the WiTP equivalent of Stalingrad. One crummy division isn't going to get anywhere. You'll need to assemble at least 4000 assault points ...10+ fresh divisions plus reserve divisions to rotate into the city, plus blocking divisions to make sure the Chinese don't rotate fresh troops in. In other words the bulk of the China Expeditionary Army.

Modifiers
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1.  Supply Level multipliers
	200% = No modifier, but will draw replacements.
	100% = No modifier, but will not draw replacements locally.
	 66% = .75
	 33% = .50
	  0% = .25
		

2.  Forts multipliers
	0 = 1
	1 = 1.2 
	2 = 1.4
	3 = 1.6
	4 = 1.8
	5 = 2
	6 = 2.25
	7 = 2.5
	8 = 2.75
	9 = 3


3.  Terrain multipliers
	Clear = 1
	Woods = 2
	Swamp/Mtn = 3
	Urban = 4


4.  HQ multipliers
	Corps HQ within range = 1.1
	Command HQ within range = 1.9


5.  Prep-point multipliers
	(Prep-point level) + 1
	ex.  27 prep-points will give a multiplier of [i]roughly[/i] 1.27



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Feinder's theories :


6.  Support level multipliers
	(percent of support level, max 100%)
	ex.  A force that has 100 Inf squads, but only 80 Support squads, will defend at [i]roughly[/i] 80% (80 assault strength).
	ex.  A force that has 100 Inf squads, and 120 Support squads, will defend at it's maximum of 100% (100 assault strength, there is no bonus for extra support).


7.  Fatigue multiplers
	(100 - fatigue) / 100
	ex.  A force with 32 fatigue would have a multiplier of about .68


8.  Disruption multiplier
	(100 - disruption) / 100
	ex.  A force with 40 disruption would have a multiplier of about .6


9.  Experience multiplier
	It [i]seems[/i] that about 60 exp is about "average", with a "1" multiplier (no benefit).  More exp gives a greater multiplier etc.  Less exp would give a fractional multiplier.  But I haven't really tested this.


10.  Moral multiplier
	I don't know if this matters.  I is -not- indicated in the manual that it has any effect.


11.  Leader multiplier
	The great abyss.  What benefits they give, remain a dark secret of the devs.


12.  Random roll.  There's always something that can make you go, "WTF?!"

"It is obvious that you have greatly over-estimated my regard for your opinion." - Me

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There's always something that can make you go, "WTF?!"

quote:

ORIGINAL: Feinder

There was a time when I kept meticulous records of supply consumption in China.

What I learned is :

a. It's a crap shoot.
b. There's never enough.
c. Get an airlift going, and haul as much as you can over The Hump.
d. Protect your Resource centers vs. a human opponent, because he -will- bomb them.


Basically, supply usage goes up if there's more of it, and less if it's scarce. Caculating daily supply requirements isn't a liner thing. The more you have, the more you use. If you have very little, you eat very little.

If you have extra, supply is burned to reduce disruption and fatigue, and increase moral. If you have enough, it will draw replacements. All these things "accellerate" as you have more supply (recover faster, draw more replacements etc).

If you don't have enough supply, you will use less, but your fatigue and disruption will go up, and your morale go down.

It's also a pain to track, because unless you're on an island, your base will try to draw supplies from other bases via the trail/road/rail net.

But there isn't much you can really do to accurately track supply.

-F-

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ORIGINAL: Feinder

The "sorta" answer to your question is, "Yes, China starts at a supply deficit." (as in less than required).

However, but as supply availability decreases so does usage. So even tho you have less than needed supplies, you burn less supplies. And depending on how bad the situation is (bright red), you wouldn't burn anything at all (unless in combat). Having red supplies and not burning any, would cause fatigue/disruption/morale/disablements. But the unit would still exist. It would be worthless as a combat formation (after a long time, supply effects are quite slow), but it would not likely just die.

I believe the guys on CHS have placed more intrinsic supply centers in China (so they cannot be bombed), that help with this. But in the stock game, your guys are gonna have to eat bugs and anything else they can scrounge.

-F-