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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 1:40:31 PM   
Erik Rutins

 

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I wonder why the price is Euro 63,99 for the DL-Edition and after clicking on the button to buy it the price is Euro 64,99 plus VAT.


Hi Harald,

This is unfortunately because of price caching. We have to cache the prices from the store to speed up the page loads. They update their prices daily and if you hit the right time when they've done their update and we haven't refreshed our cache yet, sometimes we lag behind the latest price conversion. The price you see once the product is in the cart is always the correct price and should never vary by more than a small amount.

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 2:28:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		2,660.99 RUB is what I paid.  The price when clicking said 2647.99, I assume this is the above situation Erik?  Though 13 RUB is nothing, less than a bus ride.  I'm feeling lucky I have no VAT to pay...

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 2:31:08 PM   
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I wonder why the price is Euro 63,99 for the DL-Edition and after clicking on the button to buy it the price is Euro 64,99 plus VAT.


Hi Harald,

This is unfortunately because of price caching. We have to cache the prices from the store to speed up the page loads. They update their prices daily and if you hit the right time when they've done their update and we haven't refreshed our cache yet, sometimes we lag behind the latest price conversion. The price you see once the product is in the cart is always the correct price and should never vary by more than a small amount.

Regards,

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 3:04:02 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:02:39 PM   
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£65 is over my "normal" limit of £50 for a game - but I was expecting it this time and also held off purchases of other games in order to get this

Bearing in mind that the price includes 17.5% VAT (UK tax), a physical copy and delivery,


Have you checked that? The download only option cost me £53.99 plus VAT, total £63.44.

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:12:42 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:14:59 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:16:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		The pound is fiat money, just like pretty much everyone else's. It's been a very long time since they were on the gold standard. (A "barbarous relic" as per Keynes.)





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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:17:47 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:25:18 PM   
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I've always meant to ask you guys from the UK....what is your pound/crown backed by? Also what are the materials used to make your pounds/crowns? Gold? Silver? Copper? Brass? what?



We haven't been on the Gold Standard since decimalisation back in the 70's as to what the pound is backed by at this moment? I believe they call it 'market forces' not sure about what coins are made off probably an amalgam or something.
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:26:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

£65 is over my "normal" limit of £50 for a game - but I was expecting it this time and also held off purchases of other games in order to get this

Bearing in mind that the price includes 17.5% VAT (UK tax), a physical copy and delivery,


Have you checked that? The download only option cost me £53.99 plus VAT, total £63.44.


Well £65 was the final bill on Paypal - I presume that's what I paid

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:29:08 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:32:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		^ like I said elsewhere - I was expecting a price in this area (I wasn't for BftB) and more importantly I've not bought a game because I knew this was coming out. Add to that it's Christmas and there you are.

I even bought the physical because it's Christmas so my wife can wrap it up (she won't know I have the DD )

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:33:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

£65 is over my "normal" limit of £50 for a game - but I was expecting it this time and also held off purchases of other games in order to get this

Bearing in mind that the price includes 17.5% VAT (UK tax), a physical copy and delivery,


Have you checked that? The download only option cost me £53.99 plus VAT, total £63.44.


I can't see my order on Plimus because I paid by Paypal - but here's a pic of the item on Paypal...





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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:35:15 PM   
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I even bought the physical because it's Christmas so my wife can wrap it up (she won't know I have the DD )







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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:39:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		JD...make sure you don't get stung by customs aswell as that receipt doesn't mention VAT....

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:43:23 PM   
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£65 is over my "normal" limit of £50 for a game - but I was expecting it this time and also held off purchases of other games in order to get this

Bearing in mind that the price includes 17.5% VAT (UK tax), a physical copy and delivery,


Have you checked that? The download only option cost me £53.99 plus VAT, total £63.44.


It seems either the Physical price (60.99) already had VAT included, or it wasn't charged (or you were charged extra VAT) - because (as the pic shows) I was charged £60.99 and £4.25 for shipping.

Thinking about it - - I seem to recall the physical copy seemed like it would be shipped from Germany - so I will probably still have VAT to pay.

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:47:57 PM   
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so I will probably still have VAT to pay.


17% big ones so how much does that come out to?

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 4:55:17 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 5:00:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

£65 is over my "normal" limit of £50 for a game - but I was expecting it this time and also held off purchases of other games in order to get this

Bearing in mind that the price includes 17.5% VAT (UK tax), a physical copy and delivery,


Have you checked that? The download only option cost me £53.99 plus VAT, total £63.44.


It seems either the Physical price (60.99) already had VAT included, or it wasn't charged (or you were charged extra VAT) - because (as the pic shows) I was charged £60.99 and £4.25 for shipping.

Thinking about it - - I seem to recall the physical copy seemed like it would be shipped from Germany - so I will probably still have VAT to pay.

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have


Do we have to pay customs on items shipped from within the EU?

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 5:12:15 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 5:13:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not very happy about this - I've just went through the order process again and NOWEHERE does it say I will be subject to an extra charge of VAT.

Nothing you can do about it now - But Erik, I think the store needs to be clear - NO-ONE should be wondering how much something is actually going to cost them when it turns up at the door - which is how I am feeling right now.

Can you (Erik) clarify if I'm going to be asked to shell out more money because the store was not clear about what was being charged?






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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 6:12:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		VAT is included before the final purchase. Please e-mail me with your order info if you have questions.

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 6:13:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's weird, JD. Both times I've bought in the new store, it always itemized VAT before I confirmed the order. Maybe it's because it's the physical copy...

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 6:15:53 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 6:33:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Decided to buy afterall.. i guess resistance really is futile.

Btw. How long is the review process usually for credit card purchases? I bought the game an hour ago but its still pending review.


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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 6:59:03 PM   
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Do we have to pay customs on items shipped from within the EU?


Not in Denmark, anyway (with the exception of certain items, such as alcohol and foodstuffs). I expect it's the same in the rest of the EU.

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 7:05:22 PM   
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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 8:39:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Few words about price... They decided to setup price up to 63,99e for digital download version. In these days it is quite much, when comparing gaming market. I understand, that games like this have a bit different market than, lets say Call of Duty Black ops etc. Small strategy community will pay that price for sure, but on the other hand it will surely block out those who are wondering about this game. This kind of pricing strategy will keep regular gamers out of this scene for sure. Young players like we all were in times of War in Russia, when we got a very good game for decent price and thats how our community raised. But now Matrixgames are outpricing these awesome games in level where this community wont grow like it did in past. My honest opinnion is, that this pricing tactic doesn't work in long run. Make it 49,99e (yeah now its too late, when its released and some bought it already) and there will be a lot more newcomers in scene. Fresh blood who will be addicted in strategy games forever. It is really shame that people doesn't understand economy in long run.

I am an old bastaard and have been addicted to WIR and other similar games (got a closet full of strategy games) and will buy War in the East too.

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RE: How much - 12/8/2010 8:59:18 PM   
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Few words about price... They decided to setup price up to 63,99e for digital download version. In these days it is quite much, when comparing gaming market. I understand, that games like this have a bit different market than, lets say Call of Duty Black ops etc. Small strategy community will pay that price for sure, but on the other hand it will surely block out those who are wondering about this game. This kind of pricing strategy will keep regular gamers out of this scene for sure. Young players like we all were in times of War in Russia, when we got a very good game for decent price and thats how our community raised. But now Matrixgames are outpricing these awesome games in level where this community wont grow like it did in past. My honest opinnion is, that this pricing tactic doesn't work in long run. Make it 49,99e (yeah now its too late, when its released and some bought it already) and there will be a lot more newcomers in scene. Fresh blood who will be addicted in strategy games forever. It is really shame that people doesn't understand economy in long run.

I am an old bastaard and have been addicted to WIR and other similar games (got a closet full of strategy games) and will buy War in the East too.


The other thing that compounds on this is the fact that their are so many sales from the other Digital Distributors lately.. I don't think this was happening at this level a few years ago when WITP came out.. nowadays, especially this time of the year, there is 'steals' out there for all sorts of games..

I'm really tempted to pull the trigger on this, but the 'guilt' factor is hanging over me as well.. My wife never questions anything I buy, and I buy a lot of games.. but lol.. I feel really guilty about pulling the trigger on an 80 dollar game! It would be a first!

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