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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 11:26:47 AM

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That massed armor south of Kiev means trouble, consider moving back before he encircles you

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 12:15:30 PM

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Yeah, it definitely looks like he's planning on a wide encircling move - force you to abandon the city or lose quality divisions trying to defend it.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 1:32:36 PM

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He'll eventually feel those gun losses and he should begin to feel the manpower losses. His AFV losses are not too bad.

Many AAR's are not being heavily commented on currently, perhaps because many people are still learning the game.

Tophat, one thing you could do is create cavalry armies. Personally, I'm a big fan of single-combat unit type armies as the Soviets, as it usually makes the most of the skills of the leader. The majority of the leaders have a mediocre to decent skill for either infantry or mechanized combat, but an abysmal skill for the other one. As such, creating a cavalry army with a leader with a good mechanized rating is a good idea in my opinion. Similarly, I create armies with 24 Tank brigades later on. As I keep the armies attached to STAVKA, there's usually no penalty when they're helping other units out. For the Soviets centralization=good, decentralization=bad.

What does your support unit situation look like, have you formed anything? What does your average HQ have?

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 4:51:02 PM

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The loss situation for Germany looks very grim. I doubt an 8.7 : 1 loss ratio will do it for Germany in summer 41.

I think no way he gets Leningrad, and things in the south are going quite poorly for Germany.

The only danger area for USSR seems to be the Vyazma area. But I think it might be tough for Germany to continue to drive on Moscow without better progress to the north and south of that drive.

Nice job Tophat.

Thank,thank......unfortunately he is across the dneper south of Kiev with many panzer and mobile divisions. Looks like he is aiming for a breakout and encirclement. I have got to run out of kiev and deploy delaying checkerboard style.then pray for Mud.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 4:57:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: ComradeP

He'll eventually feel those gun losses and he should begin to feel the manpower losses. His AFV losses are not too bad.

Many AAR's are not being heavily commented on currently, perhaps because many people are still learning the game.

Tophat, one thing you could do is create cavalry armies. Personally, I'm a big fan of single-combat unit type armies as the Soviets, as it usually makes the most of the skills of the leader. The majority of the leaders have a mediocre to decent skill for either infantry or mechanized combat, but an abysmal skill for the other one. As such, creating a cavalry army with a leader with a good mechanized rating is a good idea in my opinion. Similarly, I create armies with 24 Tank brigades later on. As I keep the armies attached to STAVKA, there's usually no penalty when they're helping other units out. For the Soviets centralization=good, decentralization=bad.

What does your support unit situation look like, have you formed anything? What does your average HQ have?

I was hoping to hear that the AFV losses were a concern for him.......not that bad is major cause for concern to me. He might just get his infantry stuck in Moscow's suburbs by MUD SEASON! GOOD!!!!

Cavalry or Mech Armies sounds good.I was waiting until the advent of the Tank brigades but why wait? You are correct in good infantry commanders simply for the most part suck at mech abilities and vice versa.

I'll look at my support units but frankly aside from disbanding much of the corps support units and setting 0..I left them alone. I really should start forming construction batts or bdes. I'll take a screen of a typical Corps and Army command showing support units.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:02:16 PM

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Here is a typical Corps Hq at this point in the game circa turn 9

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:03:34 PM

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The 7th Independent Army of Northern FRont. Not sure I ever adjusted this one down.I'll check this screen-shot out as well then...

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:04:40 PM

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Here is a typical workhorse Army HQ.I have a fondness for artillery and lots of it!

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:14:55 PM

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Here is an example of a very mediocre leader at best. Can't believe he has a 1 win and 2 loss record! I'd have expected worse from him. Shows terrain can help-out anybody. Time for competant commander to come to the fore!

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:25:46 PM

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He'll be an infantry Leader for now,but when I get more armor formations he'll be leading tanks in the counter-attack!

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:34:44 PM

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I intend to take ComradeP's suggestion to heart and have specialized armies. At this point the vast majority will be INFANTRY Armies,qualification is a 5 or better Infantry command rating.

My 38th Tank Division which was bare of tanks last turn has filled-out wonderfully. Look at the T-34's and KV-1's numbers. I had Tank divisions tooling around with 6 KV-1's,here he has 20!

The 43rd Army will be my first Mech/Mobile Army. Now to find a good commander for it.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:43:11 PM

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Here is a good example of needing to be flexible with decision making. In my above post I had decided to make 43rd Army my first mech/cav army. Then I took a look at the current Army cmdr,he has a 6 Infantry rating and good political,Admin,morale and initiative. It would cost 10 admin pts to dismiss him as well. This is a good Army cmdr for an Infantry Army,so 43rd stays an Infantry Formation!

I'll find some reprobate to replace for an Mech cmdr or find a mech officer saddled with Infantry and get things switched. For those that like micromanagement,this level of control really gets me into the game...I like to savor it frankly. Those that don't want to think about it,just keep on clicking,the game still plays well and is fun...but you might wonder why your combat results are so different for various armies that on surface might look similar.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:48:16 PM

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I found my sacrificial lamb in the cmdr of the 54th ARMY! This fellow is mediocre and too politically connected for my tastes. His posterior is the heck outa my command zone,a FAR EAST posting is recommended.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:53:31 PM

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This is my choice as the new Mech oriented 54th Army commanding General.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/2/2011 5:59:37 PM

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The counter-point to the 38th Tank division,the 107th with 7 BT-tanks to its name.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 12:03:50 AM

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There tend to be more Soviet commanders rated under 5 then above 5.

Some of the lousy ones didn't belong having a combat command.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:09:31 AM

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There tend to be more Soviet commanders rated under 5 then above 5.

Some of the lousy ones didn't belong having a combat command.

I'm sure I'll have my share of lousy commanders. Right now I am packing Moscow with boys to blunt the German drive.

Remember the opening event in Stalingrad the movie with whats his name,Jude Law?

"The man with the rifle shoots,when the man with the rifle is shot,pickup the rifle and shoot."

Thats kinda my situation at Moscow,guys come off the train and walk to the FRONT.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:12:07 AM

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I bugged out of the North to free-up the divisions fighting there. Outposting the Finn no attack line with NKVD border guard units and fortified zones.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:14:51 AM

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Here we have the Leningrad area,we shall see how much progress he makes this turn. No need to panic here at least.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:17:17 AM

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The quiet sector around V.Luki..I did air recon,no real German formations backing this area up. Or else my recon pilots just suck.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:19:46 AM

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Smolensk Front...soon to be Rzhev and Moscow Front! Well I formed a line again,then pulled in reserves from across the country to meet the panzer thrust!

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:24:24 AM

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Looks like the Germans are trying to linkup around Gomel and Kiev areas. Mainly German infantry in the southern operations area. They will try and link with a panzer thrust from just south of Kiev. I'm falling back!

Opposite Bryansk the Germans are thin indeed. I isolated a worn looking infantry division and threw 3 cavalry divisions into a raid at his airbases. Didn't quite make those bases but hope i put a scare into him.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:27:30 AM

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Kiev...........2 turns ago i thought it might be an opportunity to bloody the Germans in city fighting. Now its just another trap to be abandoned.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:28:57 AM

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Southern Front at the end of my turn 9:

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 3:30:42 AM

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Here we have a look at the coastal Front after my turn 9 move. My forces at Odessa hold with the Romanians seemingly happy to simply invest them.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 4:09:43 AM

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There tend to be more Soviet commanders rated under 5 then above 5.

Some of the lousy ones didn't belong having a combat command.

Wasn't that because Stalin killed off a lot of the good ones? Or were they just retired?

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 5:24:42 AM

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There tend to be more Soviet commanders rated under 5 then above 5.

Some of the lousy ones didn't belong having a combat command.

Wasn't that because Stalin killed off a lot of the good ones? Or were they just retired?

Most good officers were "purged" by Stalin in the 1930's

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 7:20:38 AM

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Kept going into the 40's, too; even did the business while the war was going.

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/3/2011 7:22:15 AM

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Nice idea with that Cavalry raid

Certainly will have him reacting to you, rather than you to him, and thats a good thing

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RE: Tophat1812(REDS) vs Moses(Krauts and friends) - 1/4/2011 1:10:54 AM

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Even though it looks like he is after Moscow, I tend to think german players will go for Leningrad because taking that secures the flank for the winter. If he takes Moscow at all, it will be tough for him to hold it in the blizzard turns. Just my humble opinion and it is hard to think that with his army closing in on the capitol.

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