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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 5:28:55 PM   
RocketMan


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Status: offline 		Thanks. It's risky move actually. One of the paras could land on an enemy unit and lose all it's actions points, but I thought it was too good an opportunity to pass up in this case.

The AI is the AI. The one in DC is better than most and it does a decent job in most cases but it is far from being as good as even an average player. I once bought a space game, can't remember the name of it but it was years ago, that didn't really even have an AI. So AIs have come a long way in my time, but they still have a long, long, long way to go before they can put up a decent fight in a game of this complexity.

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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 5:34:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gudiarn got both an Achtung Panzer II card and a Haste II card this turn. Both of them will be used on the 2nd Panzer division in it's encirclement of the British 43rd Infantry Division.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 5:50:54 PM   
RocketMan


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Status: offline 		Since I got the cards mentioned above, I have decided to move the point of my attack and try to encircle the British 1st Tank brigade as well. The British 31st Infantry Brigade is attacked by three separate Panzer Regiments, 75% of the total German inventory on the British Isles, and Retreats under the withering fire.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 5:54:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the follow on attack, two regiments of the 2nd Panzer division continue pursue the 31st Infantry Brigade, killing most of the escaping troops and causing the survivors to flee in panic.



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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 6:03:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		The surrounded elements of the Allied XI Corps are attacked and destroyed by elements of three separate infantry divisions. The Germans only take light losses.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 6:16:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Situation at the end of turn 5.

The British 43rd Infantry Division and 1st Tank Brigade are encircled and the peninsula on my right flank (couldn't find the name of it online) is almost cut off. Lead elements of the German advance are now only 10 km (2 hexes) from the outskirts of London and only 30 km (6 hexes) from London itself. I wonder if the British government is abandoning the city?




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 6:50:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RocketMan

Situation at the end of turn 5.

...the peninsula on my right flank (couldn't find the name of it online) is almost cut off. ....


You'll need to capture all the ports on that "peninsula" to cut off the supplies to troops there. The British can use sea supply too!
Stationing your air groups near the coast will kill some supplies travelling by sea.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 9:45:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Bartheart I didn't know that. I am used to the other scenarios where all supply is by land!

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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/15/2011 10:24:57 PM   
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The British intercept level continues to climb. Also got another clear weather turn, giving the Germans another 20 SP. British losses spiked up with the destruction of a large part of the surrounded XI Corps.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 6:06:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great AAR!  Love your use of the paratroops as well.  I am amazed you were able indeed to get Panzer forces landed with such light opposition.  Then again, home guard units against elite paratroops your first few turns doesn't give them much chance.  Can you post some screenshots of the TO&Es of any home guard units left or any of your opposition?  I'd like to see their make up and how they stand up to the TO&Es of the German forces.  What does a panzer division look like in Sealion?

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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 10:09:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		The peninsular is Kent - you'll have to capture my house soon!

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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 11:17:50 AM   
Vic


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Status: offline 		i really love to read AARs against the AI since it allow me to spot its weakpoints :)

this is very helpfull!

best,
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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 4:21:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedCharlie65

Great AAR!  Love your use of the paratroops as well.  I am amazed you were able indeed to get Panzer forces landed with such light opposition.  Then again, home guard units against elite paratroops your first few turns doesn't give them much chance.  Can you post some screenshots of the TO&Es of any home guard units left or any of your opposition?  I'd like to see their make up and how they stand up to the TO&Es of the German forces.  What does a panzer division look like in Sealion?


As long as the Germans have the shipping points they can land a Panzer Division anywhere they want, although they will take fewer losses if they are landed in a controlled port. I could have landed two more Panzer Divisions, but I wanted to get more troops into action and the Germans can land two infantry corps for every Panzer corp.

Shown below is the typical TO&E for a Home Guard unit. Some of them have the armored cars and others don't.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 4:25:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: patchogue

The peninsular is Kent - you'll have to capture my house soon!


It looked to me like the political name of the peninsula was Kent, I was trying to find the geographic name. Is it the same name?

I'll try to make sure the Germans don't damage your ancestral home when they take it!

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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 4:27:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Vic

i really love to read AARs against the AI since it allow me to spot its weakpoints :)

this is very helpfull!

best,
vic



Happy to help out Vic!

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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 4:32:41 PM   
RocketMan


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The Germans really don't have enough troops to adequately garrison such a large area, so I need to shorten my front lines by taking the Kent peninsula. I will air recon the ports and then if any of them are unguarded land another infantry corps in one of them. The XXIV Infantry Corps under von Schweppenburg will advance from the West to clear the area out.

The rest of the German troops will push on towards London.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 4:43:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Air recon of Dover shows it is currently undefended so OKH has ordered V Corps under Richard Ruoff and consisting of the 12th and 30th Infantry Divisions to assault it.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 4:44:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		would your plans have been different if you would have known about british port supply?
or could you just ignore kent and push to London?

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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 4:53:31 PM   
RocketMan


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Status: offline 		V Corps took 20% casualties in the landing but lost no units. Surprisingly, the British have two Air Groups based out of Deal. This is probably why the Germans have been suffering such heavy losses to troop landings the last few turns. I will use the Luftwaffe to attack them.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 5:06:26 PM   
RocketMan


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Status: offline 		The Germans lose 5 Bf-109es bombarding the British air field but destroy 25 Hawker Hurricane MKIs, 20 Blenheim IVs, 40 Spitfire MK1As and 20 Lysander IIs. Most of the British planes were destroyed on the ground. Hardly any of them got in the air.



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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 5:11:53 PM   
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would your plans have been different if you would have known about british port supply?
or could you just ignore kent and push to London?


My initial plan was to ignore Kent altogether, but the Germans just don't have enough troops to protect so long a front while simultaneously driving on London. Since I'm playing the AI I could most likely still ignore Kent and just drive on London with the majority of my troops. But it seemed to me that winning the scenario with porous flanks and a large troop concentration in London would be a little gamey.

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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 7:24:47 PM   
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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 7:29:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I attacked the isolated British 1st Armoured Brigade with the 2nd Panzer Division. I will leave the 43rd Infantry Division for next turn.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 7:31:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Panzers drive into the outskirts of London and attack remnants of the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division.



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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 7:39:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		The German spearhead has finally reached the outskirts of London and is only 20 km (4 hexes) from Westminster Palace. The Germans have also encircled two regiments of the British 72nd Infantry Division northwest of Redhill, and the Kent peninsula is in grave danger of falling completely into German hands.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 8:22:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 7 Messages.

The British Intercept level continues to increase no that the German corridor is no longer open. However, the Germans got lucky with another clear weather turn, giving them 20 more SP. I will finally land the long awaited artillery units that the German commanders have been screaming for.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 8:37:58 PM   
RocketMan


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Elements of V Corps (purple stripe) will drive on Ramsgate to close of the last port in Kent and also start attacking the remaining British in the Area. The 78th Infantry Division of XXIV Corps (green stripe) will attack the British units northeast of Hasting, while the 15th Infantry Division will take up positions on the German northern flank.

The surrounded British formations will be attacked and hopefully eliminated and the rest of the German Army will start moving towards London.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 9:01:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		The British 43 Infantry Division and remnants of the 1st Tank Brigade were attacked and destroyed by elements of three different German infantry divisions.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 9:03:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Luftwaffe softened up the two surrounded regiments of the British 72nd Infantry Division.




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RE: Operation Sealion - Rocketman vs. AI - 1/16/2011 9:07:41 PM   
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