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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/2/2012 7:53:42 AM   
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Admiral Lord SPrior, Admiral Lord SPrior, they are making fun of us again!


Remember what we said about not being a big girl's blouse?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/2/2012 3:27:25 PM   
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Admiral Lord SPrior, Admiral Lord SPrior, they are making fun of us again!


Remember what we said about not being a big girl's blouse?


Oh...OK...<kicks ground>...I s'pose Dirty Harry would not tattle.


JJ Defences near Darwin. I think we can have Darwin airfield shut down. Not sure if we have the bombers or time to shut down Wyndham. We could put some B-24's at Tennant and hit Koepang but there isn't enough supply for an air campaign from there. Katherine may not have avatiation support. There are two naval chokepoints in the approach to Darwin. we can mine the westerly one and put PT boats and small SCTF's at both to slow down the LYB big boys.

Perhaps we can break up the big landing group (after the relentless and mean-spirited bullying we have endured) and send in only the infantry and naval support on day 1?




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What you can do... - 4/2/2012 3:41:46 PM   
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RE: What you can do... - 4/2/2012 3:55:44 PM   
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Alright, for a constructive suggestion for once:

IJA 20th Division can be in Darwin in 3 days via strat movement on the railway, assuming that they're not 'tied up' with Allied ground forces in the same hex. Do you have any pending ground attack plans to keep the 20th Div out of Strat mode at Katherine?

I like your idea about idea about mining the western approaches to Darwin. That appears to be the more likely avenue through which he will approach with his SCTF heavies.

What are the stats on the Wyndham airfield? Any planes noted? As this is 7 hexes from Darwin, Naval Attack planes based here would be able to attack shipping in the Darwin hex. The "Western Approaches" sea hex too.

In my previous "dealings" with the Allies in N. Australia and the fighting in and around Darwin and Katherine, Wyndham has been extremely important as a Japanese supply hub. Have you detailed a few units to move West out of Katherine and cut the trail?

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RE: What you can do... - 4/2/2012 6:17:27 PM   
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I'm just disappointed that the Lord Admiral didn't catch my Eagles reference


I did. I just chose to ignore it after your gratuitous meanness. (Joking! Honest).

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RE: What you can do... - 4/2/2012 9:27:11 PM   
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RE: What you can do... - 4/2/2012 9:31:22 PM   
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Beirut conflict (Western involvement anyways) in 1982-circa 30 years. Invasion of Grenada in 1983. Desert Storm (20 years), etc. Fifty years since American scale up in Vietnam. 11 years in Afghanistan (!).

In some ways the 20th century rocked. In some ways, it really sucked.

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RE: What you can do... - 4/2/2012 11:34:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		RE 20th division- if Fenton (dot base between Darwin and Katherine) isn't occupied you can slow down it's move to Darwin via a paradrop there.

If you expect interdiction by SCTF then by all means send in everything at once- but with such a large TF expect collisions if it runs into opposition during the run in to landing.

Hopefully you've got their routing set to direct and absolute threat tolerance.

If you're gonig to mine the western approaches you'll need more than a few sub laid mines to give you anything more than a warm and fuzzy feeling- got some DM's or a fast CM?

Looking forward to seeing the fireworks.

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RE: What you can do... - 4/3/2012 1:53:51 AM   
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Reminds me that we're coming across a number of "anniversaries" soon:

Beirut conflict (Western involvement anyways) in 1982-circa 30 years. Invasion of Grenada in 1983. Desert Storm (20 years), etc. Fifty years since American scale up in Vietnam. 11 years in Afghanistan (!).

In some ways the 20th century rocked. In some ways, it really sucked.

And this month - 100 years since the builders of the Titanic discovered that steel will sink ...

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RE: What you can do... - 4/3/2012 4:44:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is it immoral to make "Yummi" sounds when preparing dog food to get the dogs to eat it.

It is amazingly effective. They seem to understand human "Yummi" sounds. They lick their lips and start dancing around. I feel oddly guilty which makes me think it is immoral in some fashion.

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RE: What you can do... - 4/3/2012 4:52:47 PM   
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Is it immoral to make "Yummi" sounds when preparing dog food to get the dogs to eat it.

It is amazingly effective. They seem to understand human "Yummi" sounds. They lick their lips and start dancing around. I feel oddly guilty which makes me think it is immoral in some fashion.


From which philosophical perspective are we defining morality? Certainly Rorty would see your actions as pragmatic in order to encourage the dogs to engage in behaviors which is good for them. Maybe PETA would see some immorality but they are more ideological ...

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RE: What you can do... - 4/3/2012 4:59:25 PM   
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Is it immoral to make "Yummi" sounds when preparing dog food to get the dogs to eat it.

It is amazingly effective. They seem to understand human "Yummi" sounds. They lick their lips and start dancing around. I feel oddly guilty which makes me think it is immoral in some fashion.


Provided you don't drool, it should be OK. If you do drool, then it means you really are thinking of eating it yourself and that would be immoral to tease the dogs with something you have no intention of giveng to them.

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RE: What you can do... - 4/3/2012 5:00:00 PM   
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Gove/Darwin and envrions: JJ just raided Gove yesterday so I figured it would be safe. I sent in an AK to unload some suppries and perhaps bait in a LYB air attack. I think Admirar Rord Fabertong anticipated that the Arries would expect a free night of unroading so the crever bastard staged 2 consecutive nightly attacks

Night Time Surface Combat, near Gove at 82,127, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Aoba
DD Samidare
DD Oboro
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
xAK Steel Seafarer, Shell hits 29, and is sunk

The good news is I think it was planned to be a bombardment attack but Steel Seafarer absorbed all the CA main gun ammo so the the bombardment consisted only of DD's.

Night Naval bombardment of Gove at 82,127

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Oboro
DD Samidare


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1

B-24's raided over Darwin. At least 1 more B-24 lost. No raid over Katherine for some reason. The ground troops are getting close at Katherine. JJ made two raids over Merauke but were driven off. Interestingly, there are no CV's at Timor. Maybe they are at Kendari or Soerabaja.

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RE: What you can do... - 4/3/2012 5:08:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pragmatism...hmmm. Is it then immoral for Rord Admirar Fabertong to bait us into sending an AK to Gove by staging 2 consecutive night raids...or is that prgamatism?


Similarly, is it immoral to bait LYB bombers into a CAP trap?

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RE: What you can do... - 4/3/2012 5:11:29 PM   
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Pragmatism...hmmm. Is it then immoral for Rord Admirar Fabertong to bait us into sending an AK to Gove by staging 2 consecutive night raids...or is that prgamatism?


Similarly, is it immoral to bait LYB bombers into a CAP trap?


Again, it is OK as long as you don't drool.

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RE: What you can do... - 4/3/2012 5:14:20 PM   
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Is it immoral to make "Yummi" sounds when preparing dog food to get the dogs to eat it.

It is amazingly effective. They seem to understand human "Yummi" sounds. They lick their lips and start dancing around. I feel oddly guilty which makes me think it is immoral in some fashion.


Provided you don't drool, it should be OK. If you do drool, then it means you really are thinking of eating it yourself and that would be immoral to tease the dogs with something you have no intention of giveng to them.

Alfred


Well, when I run out of wet food, I sometimes will poach them an egg or two in the microwave. I can't promise I don't drool a bit then. Also, when a 1000 lb bomb rips through the deck of Kaga I will sometimes have to wipe the spittle away.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 5:19:44 PM   
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Sub attack near Taihoku at 87,62

Japanese Ships
xAKL Taiyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Fukuei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sawfish

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 5:26:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		JJ has spotted the SeaBees at Timoeka (little dot base on New Guinea). Probably the Timoeka HOA or SPCA turned them in for destroying Dutch New Guinea Pea Hen habitat. They get plasterized. Oh, well, maybe it will serve as a good distraction. We are pounding the elite Jap division on Dobo. It is only fair.

Morning Air attack on 3rd USN Naval Construction Battalion, at 86,116 (Timoeka)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 20



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 5:32:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Port Hedrand/Broome: More supplies being unloaded with a CA, CL and some DD's providing cover.

The F4F's and P-38's are still providing LRCAP from 280-350 miles distant.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Hedland at 57,129

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3



Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 2
P-38G Lightning x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Kaching!

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Hedland at 57,129

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
G3M2 Nell x 13
G4M1 Betty x 5



Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 1
P-38G Lightning x 3
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Durban
CA San Francisco


LYB troops at PH are just pummeled by the mediums. I think virtually all the LYB AA guns are destroyed. 20 B-17's raided over Broome to keep the airfield suppressed.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 5:33:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now clearly, this is NOT immoral as we are legitimately trying to unload cargo.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 5:39:30 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 5:56:22 PM   
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Aleutians: Plumbing line froze in the enlisted-man's shower at Adak. Morale is terrible. Word is Truman himself is going to inspect the allegedly sub-standard plumbing. Goddamned war profiteers.

Are you sure Rooseveldt didn't send him up there to get him out of the [White] house for a while? After all, putting up with Eleanor, Harry and Ernie King must have been vexing!


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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 6:05:46 PM   
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Now clearly, this is NOT immoral as we are legitimately trying to unload cargo.


Not only is it nor immoral, I think you have a strong case for bringing the LYBs up on charges of war crimes.

These are the facts.

1. The LYBs have conquered Port Hedland.

2. Under current international law (OK we'll just slightly back date it to WWII (c)) it is the responsibility of the occupying power to feed the local population.

3. Furthermore, it is incumbent upon the occupying power to not relocate the local population.

4. The Allied chaps located at Port Hedland can be viewed as passing tourists unintentionaly dropped off by passing cruise ships which suddenly found themselves the focus of unfriendly air attention from bases located in Timor. I might add that the agreement between Japan and Portugal to allow the Japanese to protect Portugal's interests did not allow for a such an extensive interpretation of the terms and conditions of said agreement, and therefore that would also represent another war crime committed by the LYBs.

5. It is a fact the stranded Allied tourists have been reduced to quite desparate circumstances as a direct consequence of the LYBs not providing them with any supplies as required of occupying powers.

6. Furthermore the LYBs have taken direct action to impede the sending of supplies by the Red Cross to the stranded tourists, again in breach of their international obligations.

If I were you I would immediately instruct Messrs Dewey, Cheathem et al to commence legal proceedings against the LYBs.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 6:18:50 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 7:01:01 PM   
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Now clearly, this is NOT immoral as we are legitimately trying to unload cargo.


Not only is it nor immoral, I think you have a strong case for bringing the LYBs up on charges of war crimes.

These are the facts.

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6. Furthermore the LYBs have taken direct action to impede the sending of supplies by the Red Cross to the stranded tourists, again in breach of their international obligations.

...

Alfred

Ah, there's the rub! Japanese Culture does not recognize the "red cross" nor the muslim "red crescent'. Something more culturally appropriate must be founded to take care of food parcel delivery. Let's see ... Red Chrysanthymum? No - to imperial. Red Sun? No- the IJA has that one locked up. I know! It should be the [dripping] Red Katana!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 7:27:50 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/3/2012 10:41:54 PM   
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Where are the minelayers?





Sorry Cap Mandrake, but this time your sense of humour eludes me.

Both the CM and DM ship types can go into minelaying task forces and lay mines. They will drop different types of mines so better check yhour pools to see if you have stocks of the relevant mines.

The DMS are minesweepers, not minelayers.

Hope it was a legitimate question born out of not reading the manual. If it was a joke, I just put my foot in my mouth.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 4/4/2012 6:30:23 PM   
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*********SE Tanna Is., July 20, 1942(c)***********


Sergeant of the Tannanese 1st Light Infantry with his stripes tattood onto his bare shoulders: Good. Here why we have feast. <he pauses briefly to honor the cook with two quick toots of flatulence and a loud belch. This is quickly echoed by the other Tannanese in a call and response fashion much to the amusement of the Japan men. The level of skill is evident as the flatulence is delivered in 3 part harmony. The combination of a Spam and fresh fig diet is evident. When the air has cleared a bit, the Sargeant looks directly at his guests> Shinto crap religion. Cargo cult better. Ensign McGoo bring Spam...........


I had to actualy break down and register (or re-register, coulda sworn I'd set one up ... ) just to comment. Firstly, you're all incredibly sick, keep up the excellent work!

Secondly is part statement, part question: Am I the only person that immediately got a 'mental image', to use the term loosly, of this sounding like "The Music Box" (may have name wrong, instrumental only (piano))?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/4/2012 7:25:23 PM   
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Where are the minelayers?





Sorry Cap Mandrake, but this time your sense of humour eludes me.

Both the CM and DM ship types can go into minelaying task forces and lay mines. They will drop different types of mines so better check yhour pools to see if you have stocks of the relevant mines.

The DMS are minesweepers, not minelayers.

Hope it was a legitimate question born out of not reading the manual. If it was a joke, I just put my foot in my mouth.

Alfred


Sorry, Alfred, but I must defend the Cap'n's posting. He clearly answered his own offered question about the present location of the minelayers. True, one USUALLY wants mines on the minelayers for greater efficacy and all that. True also, the Cap'n has asked us repeatedly to pretend he didn't read the manual. However, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one-we now know where the minelayers are now (and a few non-sequitor DMS too).

As yet another non-sequitor: I'm reading Castles of Steel, about the naval aspect of the First World War between Germany and the UK. Good read thus far. A lovely quote from Admiral Milne reminded me of a certain Captain of our acquaintance.

"They don't pay me to think. They pay me to be an Admiral."

Good stuff, what what.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 4/4/2012 9:23:33 PM   
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I'm reading Castles of Steel


An excellent book, you should try Dreadnought too.

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