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Number of units - 7/11/2012 6:41:32 PM   
BodyBag


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Status: offline 		Hi Vic

I have read different numbers, but just to be clear:

In the biggest scenario, how many units does the German and Sovjet side have?
Some say 450, others 800.

450 will be manageable, 800 not.

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RE: Number of units - 7/12/2012 2:51:00 PM   
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RE: Number of units - 7/12/2012 2:56:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		About 400-500 on the German side and 400-600 on the Soviet side. Approx.

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RE: Number of units - 7/12/2012 3:10:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just did a VERY rough count using the Order of Battle Tab which is an excellent tool for assessing your forces.

At the start of the Case Blue (Full) campaign :

The Germans have around 430 units / regiments including air and naval assets.

The Russians have around 600 units / regiments including air and naval assets.

There are lots of UI features that make handling these units easier. These include :

* The OOB Tab shows all your units and a double click takes you to their location on the map.
* There is a group move button for divisions (usually 4 regiments)
* If you click a Corps HQ, it highlights all the regiments under its command.
* All they key unit information is shown on the unit counters.



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RE: Number of units - 7/12/2012 5:29:05 PM   
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And for the number of the turns ?

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RE: Number of units - 7/12/2012 8:51:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I should add that this is only for the largest Case Blue scenario. There are other scenarios (2nd Kharkov, Voronezh) and the linked 1st Panzer Army campaign that have far fewer unit for the player to control, but the full campaign scenario is both playable and quite impressive.

The short Case Blue campaign scenario starts on June 28th, 1942 and ends on August 29th, 1942.

The full Case Blue campaign Scenario starts on June 28th, 1942 and ends at the start of April, 1943.

The Trappenjagd campaign Scenario starts on May 12th, 1942 and ends at the start of April, 1943.

The full Uranus campaign Scenario starts on November 20th, 1942 and ends at the start of April, 1943.

The short Uranus campaign Scenario starts on November 20th, 1942 and ends on January 21st, 1943.

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RE: Number of units - 7/12/2012 10:04:35 PM   
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One more precision please. How many days represents a turn ?

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RE: Number of units - 7/12/2012 10:46:47 PM   
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RE: Number of units - 7/13/2012 1:55:52 AM   
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RE: Number of units - 7/13/2012 6:07:02 AM   
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RE: Number of units - 7/13/2012 7:31:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

I should add that this is only for the largest Case Blue scenario. There are other scenarios (2nd Kharkov, Voronezh) and the linked 1st Panzer Army campaign that have far fewer unit for the player to control, but the full campaign scenario is both playable and quite impressive.

The short Case Blue campaign scenario starts on June 28th, 1942 and ends on August 29th, 1942.

The full Case Blue campaign Scenario starts on June 28th, 1942 and ends at the start of April, 1943.

The Trappenjagd campaign Scenario starts on May 12th, 1942 and ends at the start of April, 1943.

The full Uranus campaign Scenario starts on November 20th, 1942 and ends at the start of April, 1943.

The short Uranus campaign Scenario starts on November 20th, 1942 and ends on January 21st, 1943.

Regards,

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That sounds fantastic, always wanted to make a scenario on Case Blue myself. Have heaps of research but no time available. Can’t wait for this one.

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RE: Number of units - 7/13/2012 7:34:31 AM   
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RE: Number of units - 7/13/2012 7:36:46 AM   
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RE: Number of units - 7/13/2012 1:15:10 PM   
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RE: Number of units - 7/13/2012 3:45:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: balto

Uranus. Is it possible to say that without smirking?



A little known fact to English readers is that Uranus has the same the kind of joke associated with it in Russian as in English.... I always wonder if the Russians deliberately picked the operation name for that reason.

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RE: Number of units - 7/14/2012 10:48:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: map66


quote:

ORIGINAL: balto

Uranus. Is it possible to say that without smirking?



A little known fact to English readers is that Uranus has the same the kind of joke associated with it in Russian as in English.... I always wonder if the Russians deliberately picked the operation name for that reason.


I doubt Stalin would have been amused ...

Of course, maybe the drone who chose the name ended up in the Gulag?

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RE: Number of units - 7/20/2012 6:20:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		How many units in the smaller scenarios?

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RE: Number of units - 7/20/2012 7:19:30 AM   
Vic


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In the smaller scenarios its maybee more like 100 vs 100. In the 1st Panzer Army campaign you start with maybee 50 units max.

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