Dixie
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Moving around a lot has always been a by-product of economics. Americans have a long tradition of "going where the jobs are". After you (our immigrant ancestors) cross the ocean's to come here , a move of a couple of states or a thousand miles or so isn't a big thing. Being "rooted" to the land , while great for a sense of history or family ("my family has been in this town for XXX generations!") it's often a sure fire route to poverty. There are lots of Ghost towns across the west USA that are a testement to this. (What do you move for work when..."the mine plays out", "the mill closes down" , etc). Which REALLY complicates researching the anscestors. Germany prefers to pay social welfare to those who don't want to move, even if jobs for them are available somewhere else. It would be inhumane to take someone out of his social enviroment... Oh that's true in many places. But look at yourself. Your not just willing to move from one end of your country , you are willing to even move out of the country for a while if necessary. We have the same problems in many parts of our country. But then again, I've never heard of anyone being lauded because they are "on the dole". I deep loved the scenery and climate of the small town I grew up in. But opportunity was not there at the time, and it was elsewhere. But I have a great many relatives who stayed , because it was easy, comfortable and familiar. They are the one that our decendants will have an easy time tracking down (my brother for example , only left for a hitch in the Navy , then returned and never left again. My cousins have never been more than 25 miles from the site of their birth. But then again, they never went to college ,joined the service, or owned a passport). Nobody should be forced to move. But forcing those who do to pay for the living of those who stayed at a place with no jobs is... well, propably "european"... Agreed on all counts... I'm always asked what the heck a guy doing in Southern California is doing in Minnesota, our nation's CONUS perennial icebox. My answer is "that's where the jobs are in my specialty". I miss my family, which is a diaspora and lives in Arizona and California and wish that we could all live in a compound on the West Coast, away from the workaday responsibilities of...you know...providing for ourselves and building a new life. If only I had a couple hundred million $, I could set up a family compound a la the Kennedys in Massachusetts. I'll have to talk to Steve about a teeny tiny loan... So, our family's choice has always been-go where your jobs take you or cling to family shirt tails and 'get by' on odds and ends. We've always chosen the former, and it has meant extensive familial mobility, possibly too much. I'd be hard pressed to say where 'home' really is anymore. I know this trade off is anathema to many Europeans who (comparatively) rarely move out of their homeland for jobs. But my family is doing what Americans have done for generations. I guess we're lucky in Europe in a way. A lot of European countries are smaller than a US state and our neighbours haven't always been on speaking terms so the need to travel a long way to find work hasn't been there. I wonder how much of the tendancy to stay put here in Europe is rooted in the Medieval times where you were beholden to your lord and needed permission to visit other areas, let alone move there? Of course, a lot of it is laziness and being given money for sitting on your arse watching Jeremy Kyle every day. I'm lucky in the fact that my job has taken us back to where my family is, more or less, but I liked the fact that we used to live a decent distance away from our families. It meant we had to stand on our own. If my dad hadn't been willing to work away from home he wouldn't have met my mum. And her parents wouldn't have met if her dad hadn't been in the RAF.
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