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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 3/23/2013 5:06:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		The 18th UK was in Burma and is now slogging through the jungle with a few Indian divisions and I think an Aussie as well. I'd have to look back to see which ones exactly, but he threw a lot into Burma early. He should still have good strength in India, but if I got there before these troops made it out, there would be a chance.

A lot of things would have to go right, but it would be fun to try. I'd have to make sure I could get a railhead up the line somewhere so any movement of the army moving from Burma would have to be off rail.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 3/24/2013 11:40:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		"A few Indian divisions"? Has he spent all PPs buying out Indian divisions? Only 1 ID starts attached to Burma command. The rest are restricted.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 3/24/2013 12:49:53 PM   
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"A few Indian divisions"? Has he spent all PPs buying out Indian divisions? Only 1 ID starts attached to Burma command. The rest are restricted.


I'll have to look back. Pretty sure it was more than one Indian division.

EDIT: I think I made a comprehensive list in the AAR, but couldn't find it. This is what I came up with looking at combat reports. Not several Indian divisions I guess, but one full and a few brigades. Plus the Aussie stuff. It's quite a bit, anyway, to be still stuck in the jungle. I'm not sure which of these he had to buy, but a good number if I my memory of the Allied OOB is close to right.

I'd put my ability to launch an operation quickly enough to have a positive outcome at about 25%. Plus, I'll telegraph the whole thing through prep. But I might be able to use that as well.

18th British Division
17th Indian Division

1st Burma Division

36th Chinese Division
88th Chinese Division
6th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
2nd Reserve Division

46th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
B Sqn 3rd Hussars Regiment

18th Australian Brigade
21st Australian Brigade
25th Australian Brigade
7th Aus Div Cav Regiment
7th Armoured Brigade

24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
35th Light AA Regiment
6th Burma Rifles Battalion
85th British AT Gun Regiment


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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 3/24/2013 1:23:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thats a pretty big chunk! The 6th OZ ID is missing though. But he might have sent that to OZ. I usually send one there to secure things early!

You have to take into account that he will have 5-6 full strength Indian IDs now. This late they probably have full Morale and at least 50-55 EXP. Upgraded to 42 squads these can pose a pretty formidable force. Then there is the 3-4 armored brigades depending on where he sent them. He should have them in good order by now and once they upgrade to mediums they are pretty awesome.

A lot depend on if he has put the Indian IDs into order. Its takes some fiddling to fill out the 42 squads. Each ID is about 400 AV. With armor that could in worst case mean about 3000 AV ready for counter attacking. A landing around Chittagong will also allow him to shift a lot of stuff guarding the Western Coast of India.

I think you are a bit too late for this. But then again you don´t have much to loose as long as you keep your retreat open! You can always pull back!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 3/24/2013 2:23:07 PM   
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Thats a pretty big chunk! The 6th OZ ID is missing though. But he might have sent that to OZ. I usually send one there to secure things early!

You have to take into account that he will have 5-6 full strength Indian IDs now. This late they probably have full Morale and at least 50-55 EXP. Upgraded to 42 squads these can pose a pretty formidable force. Then there is the 3-4 armored brigades depending on where he sent them. He should have them in good order by now and once they upgrade to mediums they are pretty awesome.

A lot depend on if he has put the Indian IDs into order. Its takes some fiddling to fill out the 42 squads. Each ID is about 400 AV. With armor that could in worst case mean about 3000 AV ready for counter attacking. A landing around Chittagong will also allow him to shift a lot of stuff guarding the Western Coast of India.

I think you are a bit too late for this. But then again you don´t have much to loose as long as you keep your retreat open! You can always pull back!


You're probably right. I'll just keep the door open until it looks absolutely impossible. Fun to imagine anyway.

The other interesting option is to really dig in and do this with some good knowledge from our game about what is most vulnerable. I will make a first line in S/SW PAC up along the Lae > Rabaul > Namatani axis, not farther South, this time. The lower Solomons were a waste in the real war for Japan and it's the same in game I realize now. no need to be there except to put a few small roadblocks and search bases. I might take Port Moresby, but if so, only to get rid of the Allies there now and to make him have to take time re-taking it. I won't build it up.

I will also build up North New Guinea early ( all of the way to Sarmi ) and get good build-up in the OZ bases and DEI early. I'm about to go for West OZ, and it doesn't look like much extra is there, but of course it could be waiting for me to go to show itself. Torsten has shown he is aggressive and willing to take risks and with the CV parity, he could move at any time.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/15/2013 12:35:32 PM   
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It's been a while since I've been able to update. As usual the interesting things happen when I'm weeks behind in the AAR. I'll do my best to give a quick recap with some detailed reports, then get to current events. Some interesting (and slightly devastating) developments recently.

SUBS: The I-32 hits the Clan Forbes with one TT. The KXVII is sunk at port in Darwin by Nells.

DEI: The last Dutch holdout at Manado falls. Now it's all about clean-up. I'll do th forward areas first and work my way back to the remaining PI islands.

CHINA: I continue to pound troops at Sian with air strikes and Torsten sends small units to harass behind the lines in the SE. The big move is that he retreats the blockade of the road to Sian. That is crucial. The base there will be tough to conquer, but in a clear hex it's only a matter of time now with a direct LOC and both armies joined for about 5k AV.

PI: Mines were cleared at Bataan with no issues and troops begin to move to Singapore. I've got all propping for bases in India. I am sure Torsten will see this, but I want him to think I'm going big there even if it doesn't work out. A fight in the Burma area is preferable to Central Pacific after losing the CVs early.

PACIFIC: Nothing happening here at all. Some Nells were shot down near Wake as I left them on too close a strike distance. At Port Moresby my zeros went for the PTs with marginal results. Shell hits only.

BURMA: Torsten bombs Magwe at night and takes more off of the oil there. It's a slow process, but he's dedicated to wearing it down. The Thai troops are nearly to Akyab, and will cross over in the next days. I tried a sweeps of Cox's Bazaar and encountered massive CAP from that base and bleeding from Chittagong. Lost 10 Oscars for 5 Allied planes.

Here I am slowly extending to Myitkyina and up into the jungles to Kalemyo. A division has been sent to walk up there. Recon does not show Torsten's British troops anywhere it the jungles toward India. They must still be there at this point, but an invasion of India is getting less and less likely.

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It's Oscars for another month as it will be July before the Tojo is here. Sigh.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/15/2013 10:07:15 PM   
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SUBS: Not much action from either side using subs. I have about ten now patrolling the area between Port Blair and Colombo. I haven't used any on the West coast, around Hawaii, or in the sea lanes of the Pacific. This is partially due to my laziness and partially to conserve the subs and fuel, keeping them for massed defensive action in later 42.

Torsten is using his subs to lightly patrol the DEI and IO, but nothing has been seen around the HI. A few US subs have attacked recently, but no hits have been recorded.

DEI: Nells and Sallys ruined the fields at Darwin, Katherine and Wyndham in preparation for the landing at Wyndham. It should land in a few days.

CHINA: Now that everything is concentrated in Sian it's quite easy to get really extraordinary results from bombing. I've got about 250 2E aimed there very day. The casualties are averaging over 1,000 now and dropped AV by 50 a day. I'll keep this going as long as he keeps 30+ units in the city and until we can try for it without blowing out our own forces. No hurry. I won't go for all of China. Just want the industry and oil.

PACIFIC: A few sweeps over Port Moresby convince the Allied to not put CAP up here. All I see are small supply runs into the base. No combat ships in evidence.

BURMA: The Allied CVs show up to check in near the Andamans. I have some units prepping for Port Blair, and about to get moving, so likely this is either a move to interdict that invasion, or he had sigint on a division moving from Palembang to Rangoon. I had 4 DDs hovering near Port Blair to hit supply drops, on constant patrol, and these come under attack by two waves of SBD. The Nowaki takes one bomb hit but surprisingly is fine and makes it back to safety. All other TFs in the area turn around until the danger has passed.

The next day I sent the remaining 3 DDs into the Allied ships and got a single shell hit on a DD in the British CV TF (which includes many US ships). No lucky long lance hits in spite of getting to 3k yards.

As the ships retreat my Nells go for two AMc near Diamond Harbor that are under CAP and I lose a bunch of planes. He may have set this up intentionally, tricky guy.

Starting on the 13th Torsten sends in massive sweeps followed by bombing runs on the fields at Magwe, but doesn't escort the bombers, which suffer. The next day more of the same with the bombers aimed at the oil, and he does take another 40 points off of the oil for the price of 26 fighters, 40 or so bombers over the two days. He's very sporadic in his missions. They come in pulses. This is hard to prepare for but preferable so far to a steady diet of massed concentration bombing.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 11, 42
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Morning Air attack on Wyndham , at 70,127

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
G3M2 Nell x 29

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Do-24K-1: 8 damaged
Do-24K-1: 1 destroyed on ground
T.IVa: 6 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Little Andaman at 40,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17
TBF-1 Avenger x 15


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Arashi
DD Kuroshio
DD Nowaki

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
15 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Little Andaman at 40,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
DD Kuroshio
DD Yukikaze
DD Nowaki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Arashi

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Nowaki


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 12, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 40,57, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kuroshio
DD Yukikaze
DD Arashi, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CV Indomitable
CV Illustrious
CV Formidable
CA Northampton
CA Houston
CA Louisville
CA Pensacola
DD Patterson
DD Jarvis, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Craven
DD Gridley
DD McCall
DD Maury
DD Benham
DD Dunlap

Reduced sighting due to 3% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 3% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
DD Jarvis engages DD Arashi at 6,000 yards
DD Arashi engages CV Illustrious at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
DD Jarvis engages DD Arashi at 4,000 yards
DD Arashi engages CV Illustrious at 4,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Gridley at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
DD Arashi engages CV Formidable at 3,000 yards
DD Arashi engages CV Illustrious at 3,000 yards
DD Jarvis engages DD Kuroshio at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
DD Arashi engages DD Jarvis at 5,000 yards
DD Arashi engages CV Illustrious at 5,000 yards
DD Arashi engages CV Indomitable at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Jarvis engages DD Arashi at 10,000 yards
DD Arashi engages CV Illustrious at 10,000 yards
DD Kuroshio engages CV Indomitable at 10,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 14, 42
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 31

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIa Trop: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 26

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16
Kittyhawk IA x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 41


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet *
7 x Kittyhawk IA sweeping at 20000 feet *
3 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet *
5 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet
9 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15
Hudson IIIa x 21
Hudson III (LR) x 11
A-29 Hudson x 5
B-17E Fortress x 6
B-26 Marauder x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Hudson IIIa: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hudson III (LR): 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
A-29 Hudson: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
Hudson I x 7
B-18A Bolo x 5
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-26 Marauder x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 4 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged

Airbase hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 15, 42
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Morning Air attack on Sian , at 83,41

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 60
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 92
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 40
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 23
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 12
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
1228 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 96 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 17, 42
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Ground combat at Sian (83,41)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1880 troops, 233 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4849

Defending force 147324 troops, 896 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4239

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Assaulting units:
110th Division
10th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
28th Engineer Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
35th Division
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
41st Division
15th Division
11th Tank Regiment
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Infantry Brigade
32nd Division
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
58th Infantry Regiment
37th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
13th Division
9th Tank Regiment
8th Recon Regiment
36th Division
12th Tank Regiment
8th Engineer Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Mongol Garrison Army
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
13th Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
12th Army
North China Area Army
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
1st Army
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
48th Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
57th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
8th Route Army
23rd Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
81st Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
96th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
15th Chinese Base Force
22nd Group Army
4th Group Army
2nd Construction Regiment
7th Construction Regiment
4th Construction Regiment
39th Group Army
15th Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
34th Group Army
Red Chinese Army
6th Group Army
1st War Area
14th Group Army
2nd War Area
12th Chinese Base Force
8th Group Army
36th Group Army
1st Construction Regiment
24th Group Army
3rd Construction Regiment
7th Group Army
4th Chinese Base Force
18th Group Army
Jingcha War Area
10th Chinese Base Force
37th Group Army
56th AT Gun Regiment

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I'm just starting to get ernest about shipping oil and fuel from the DEI. I need to get on this for real while the subs are at a minimum.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/16/2013 5:41:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		You are not going to try and knock China out? Whats the reasoning behind that? I would assume since you lost the KB that this would be your area of focus?

Also, with his Carriers in the IO you might want to use the opportunity to get Garrisons in place in Centpac? I´m guessing you will leave the Gilberts empty?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/16/2013 12:38:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		The reasoning behind not knocking out China is that we have the China reserve agreement. So if I looked to knock out all bases we would call a ceasefire and he would have the inner four cities.

I will make some effort to get into the mountains, but I also cannot afford to leave all armor in China indefinitely, as my defense will have to be set up within the next few months with the CV losses early.

In the Central Pacific I have taken the Gilberts, but I'm only manning them with one naval guard each. Much less focus on the outer Pacific. I also suspect he will concentrate on the DEI and Burma. Seeing the US CVs over here supports that view.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/18/2013 12:27:26 PM   
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This stage of the war is full of intrigue but little action. Not much to report.

SUBS: The I-154 is nearly sunk near Colombo and forced to limp back to port. The I-172 hits xAK Lancaster near Mare' and sinks her with two TT. One more xAKL is sunk by a Japanese sub.

DEI: Not much going on here. Still a few bases to conquer.

CHINA: Sian is continually bombed. I feel almost guilty for this, but it's the only way to break through here. The Chinese AV is now down to almost 4k. Once it gets below 3.5k or so I'd like to try another DA.

W OZ: Troops land at Wyndham. The base is crippled by a massive BB bombardment and there is little resistance. I'll try to DA in a day or two. Then move to Katherine and aim to trap any troops he doesn't move back from Darwin to save.

BURMA: Many waves of night bombing for several turns take another chunk off of the oil, which is now down to 140 (160). At least it's still producing something. My sneaky division heads up toward Kalemyo into the jungles.

Torsten's CVs moved back toward Colombo, and our division turned around and proceeded to Rangoon. Due to the lack of CV strength I might not put as much emphasis on defending Burma and I'm thinking of pulling the major defenses back (once adequately challenged) to avoid the devastation of a flanking move along the Burma, Thai or even Malay coastline.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 18, 42
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ASW attack near Colombo at 27,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-154, hits 3, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Bagley
DD Henley

SS I-154 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Ralph Talbot
DD Henley attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-154 eludes DD Henley by diving deep

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 21, 42
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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 7


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 12


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 6

No Allied losses


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 6


No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 5

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 6

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 4

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 5


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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ASW attack near Groot Natoena at 57,84

Japanese Ships
DMS W-5, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DMS W-17
xAP Haruna Maru
xAP Hakusan Maru
xAP Argentina Maru
xAK Myoko Maru
xAK Manila Maru
xAK Canberra Maru
DD Oite
DD Kisaragi

Allied Ships
SS O24

SS O24 launches 4 torpedoes at DMS W-5
DD Oite fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kisaragi fails to find sub and abandons search
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 22, 42
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Sub attack near Koggala at 30,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-122

Allied Ships
xAKL Sarpen, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

SS I-122 attacking on the surface
Nagaishi K. decides to submerge SS I-122 due to damage

Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 9
B-17E Fortress x 4


No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 7

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 6

No Allied losses

Oil hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 7

No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 4

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 5


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 23, 42
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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes


Allied aircraft
Lysander II x 6
B-26 Marauder x 11


No Allied losses

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 8
B-26 Marauder x 6


No Allied losses

Oil hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Sian (83,41)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1880 troops, 233 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5017

Defending force 144903 troops, 884 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4072


Allied ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Naval bombardment of Wyndham at 70,127

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Do-24K-1: 4 damaged
Do-24K-1: 1 destroyed on ground
T.IVa: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
CA Takao


Allied ground losses:
560 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 25 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 11
Port hits 30
Port supply hits 2

BB Ise firing at Wyndham
BB Yamashiro firing at Wyndham
BB Fuso firing at Wyndham
CA Takao firing at Wyndham

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Pre-Invasion action off Wyndham (70,127)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
DD Susuki
DD Urakaze
DD Amatsukaze
xAK Yasukawa Maru
DD Tsuta

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 18 (5 destroyed, 13 disabled)

BB Nagato firing at 2nd Recce Battalion
DD Susuki firing at NW Aus Aviation Rgt
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Burmese oilfields at Yenangyuang are slowly being destroyed. Torsten is not about to give me any free-bees here.
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Another attempt to catch up here. Torsten is playing quite regularly of late.

SUBS: On the 29th I-165 contacts a big Allied TF including the Repulse near the Andamans. It is sighted before getting a shot off and damaged.

CHINA: Kweilin goes down to only a few small units. The Chinese have mostly retreated to the Chikhiang-Tuyun line with small harassing units moving around the SE trying to cut LOCs. I just keep bombing and sending recon rgts after them. No problems so far. I'm also moving on Nanning from Indochina. Once I secure all of this area I'll have to wait for more from the Sian area.

W OZ: Troops move toward Katherine as Aussie troops retreat toward Katherine. Two units remain at Darwin.

BURMA: Torsten moves CVs in again close to the Andamans as troops load on ships heading for Port Blair. Either he has good sigint on this or is reading the tea leaves and watching the recon of Rangoon closely. I've got the KB upgrading groups as of the first, and then I might be able to provide some security here. He looks to have 2-3 US CVs plus some British here based on the search so far.

Night attacks continue on the oil at Magwe. A few more hits. Oscars get an occasional kill and lose a few as well.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 25, 42
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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 26

Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 29, 42
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ASW attack near Little Andaman at 42,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-165, hits 8

Allied Ships
BC Repulse
CA San Francisco
CA Minneapolis
CA Astoria
DD Vendetta
DD Norman
DD Nizam
DD Nestor
DD Express



SS I-165 is sighted by escort
DD Norman attacking submerged sub ....
DD Nizam fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nestor fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Express fails to find sub and abandons search
Escort abandons search for sub

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Ground combat at Sian (83,41)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1880 troops, 233 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5114

Defending force 143019 troops, 874 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3996


Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Ground combat at Kweilin (76,54)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5802 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 205

Defending force 1864 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 40

Japanese adjusted assault: 99

Allied adjusted defense: 31

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
204 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


Assaulting units:
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade

Defending units:
13th Chinese Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 30, 42
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Ground combat at Kweilin (76,54)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5784 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 203

Defending force 1676 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Japanese adjusted assault: 191

Allied adjusted defense: 21

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kweilin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
748 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade

Defending units:
13th Chinese Base Force

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Okay. It's been a while since the last update. The game is still moving along. Since Jocke had too busy a day to do a turn yesterday I have time to do this portion of the game justice. A very big and decisive few days in the game with far-reaching implications.

OVERVIEW: The Allies have a good position around the map after their early battle downing 3 IJN fleet CVs off of Pearl in surface combat. They've been pushed back out of Burma and are now grouping a massive air force in India to begin battling the Japanese centered in the Magwe/Mandalay area. They have already taken oil points at Magwe to 1/3 of the original value in a persistent and successful strategic bombing campaign, mostly conducted at night.

In China the Allies have lost an incredible amount of troops, but hold good defensive lines from Tuyun to Chikhiang and into the Central plains. They look to be sending troops toward the mountains to form solid defensive positions there. Sian is still filled with a huge Chinese Army and an even bigger IJA stack, and the attack will come once Chinese troops have been weakened just a bit more through the air.

In the Pacific the Allies hold Wake and Port Moresby, and it's likely they will continue to do so. I will set up defensive lines slightly farther back than historical and fight for North New Guinea and the marinas as the first priority. The North is also unusual in the there is no Japanese presence in the Aleutians. No Allied movements are apparent in this area, and base building seems minimal.

DEI: In the South the last dot bases are getting cleaned up as troops disperse to fill out defensive positions on the major islands.

CHINA: Small IJA units are herding stray Chinese troops in the South and East while troops in Sian are poised for a major assault on Sian. Troops at Chikhiang are static, btu have crossed the river, so await only reinforcement so continue pushing here.

PACIFIC: Port Moresby is swept relentlessly whenever Allied fighters appear there. A few small bases in the Solomons are occupied, but the first defensive line will begin around Lae and go across New Britain to Rabaul and Namatani. No sign of Allied offensives here as yet.

BURMA: This is the major fighting zone now. The Allies continue to battle in the air with a good number of US groups added to the British.

Port Blair is invaded on the 3rd and troops get ashore in good order without major disruption. It'll be another day or two before they attack once all transports are unloaded. Allied CVs have been in the area but are not currently seen either by LR search or Glen subs near Colombo. The reconfigured KB, with recently upgraded groups is hanging near the coast between Port Blair and Victoria Point for LBA support and to stay out of range for a surprise lunge by Allied CVs. The next few days will be interesting, as again the unexpected occurs in this game.


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 1, 42
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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4
B-17E Fortress x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sian , at 83,41

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 60
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 118
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 39
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 18
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
1224 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 172 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled


Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Sian (83,41)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1880 troops, 233 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5167

Defending force 139697 troops, 869 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3814

Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 2, 42
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ASW attack near Phuket at 48,70

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
CA Mikuma
DD Tanikaze
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashi
DD Asagumo
DD Yamagumo
DD Michishio

Allied Ships
SS Truant, hits 1

SS Truant is sighted by escort
Truant diving deep ....
DD Asagumo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Michishio fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Asagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Port Blair at 49,57

Japanese Ships
DMS W-15

Allied Ships
SS KXV

SS KXV launches 2 torpedoes at DMS W-15
DMS W-15 attacking submerged sub ....
DMS W-15 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 3, 42
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Night Naval bombardment of Port Blair at 46,58

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
254 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 12
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at 5/14th Punjab Battalion
BB Hiei firing at Port Blair
BB Haruna firing at Port Blair
BB Kongo firing at Port Blair
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Nachi

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Pre-Invasion action off Port Blair (46,58) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

41 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Yugumo
xAK Tuyama Maru
DD Natsugumo
DD Akigumo
xAP Naminoue Maru

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

DD Yugumo firing at Medan Coastal Gun Battalion
Medan Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Yugumo
DD Natsugumo firing to suppress enemy battery at 10,000 yards
DD Akigumo firing to suppress enemy battery at 10,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Port Blair (46,58)

TF 261 troops unloading over beach at Port Blair, 46,58

Japanese ground losses:
485 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost in surf during unload of 23rd Nav Gd Unit /2
10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 23rd Nav Gd Unit /4

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Afternoon Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 20 on standby, 16 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 22000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 5 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 6 on standby, 12 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 22000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes

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Ground combat at Port Blair (46,58)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1256 troops, 17 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 62

Defending force 2406 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 106

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Medan Coastal Gun Battalion
5/14th Punjab Battalion
108th/2 Base Force
Port Blair RN Det

Defending units:
23rd Nav Gd Unit /1
Kure 3rd SNLF /1
143rd Infantry Rgt /1
91st Nav Gd /1

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Troops are ashore inspire of the Medan CD guns at Port Blair, and the base should fall in a few days.
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Or maybe it was not so unexpected.

This game has been so different from the beginning with the loss of the overwhelming power the KB provides. Suddenly all areas are under threat as the Allies can dictate the game on the oceans.

SUBS: My sub chain running from Colombo to just NW of Port Blair sees nothing coming, gets no shots at the massive Allied fleet running full speed toward Port Blair in the night.

BURMA: The plan was a surprise. Torsten is very aggressive. I knew if I laid some bait he'd come running. The bait had to be good enough, and I had to have enough power to take advantage if the plan worked. (I have no maps, unfortunately, to show exact placement of fleets).

I set the transports with little cover at Port Blair to unload troops. Two SAGs were nearby in front of the CVs to lure air strikes and guard the KB while preparing for runs on the Allied fleet if it should appear. I calculated how far the Allies could travel in one day and set the KB just outside that range between Port Blair and Victoria but close enough to provide CAP support to the SAGs. Over 100 crack zeros and some Oscars also provided LR CAP from land bases over the KB.

The Allies did dash in, and the morning strikes looked promising. Both US and Brit strikes went for the transport and SAGs. Over 30 SBD and 20 TBF were shot down as well as a number of escorts for the loss of a few xAKs. No surface combat ships were hit. Another phase in the afternoon would have left the Allies short of strike planes, fatigued and with low moral. Instead the catastrophic occurred again for the Japanese fleet.

I don't know how or during what period of the day this happened, but at some point the KB TFs reacted independently toward the Allied CVs, moving in and separating from each other along one 3 hex line SE of Port Blair. This had a number of terrible consequences for the Japanese fleet.

First, they moved into range of the Allied CVs, which they were not set to do. Two, their separation led to a lack of mutual support and split the offensive strikes into different groups. Third, this took the majority of the CVs out of range of the LBA support from the three expert groups at Victoria Point (the equivalent of what the three lost fleet CVs would have provided in CAP, thus evening out the battle quite a bit).

The result was another crippling loss for the IJN. The reaction is still a mystery. If it happened early, why did no strikes fly to the CVs from either side? I can only conclude it happened in the middle of the day between phases. If together, the Japanese strikes could have punched through much better and given a better account of themselves, likely for fewer planes lost. As it was, only a good hit on the Lexington causing an Ammo Storage explosion gave any consolation.

This shouldn't have been the battle. The battle should have been the next day between the surface fleets as intended. That combined with a dash away toward LBA cover by the KB could have evened the score a bit, but it was not to be. Instead the IJN lost Junyo, Zuiho and Shoho with the Shokaku crippled by 5 TT hits and the Ryujo also limping with float damage at 60+.

Alas, in love and war the best laid plans go awry.

The next day proved interesting, but this game will be even tougher now.

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MORNING - AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 4, 42
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 50

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 6
Sea Hurricane Ib x 7
Martlet II x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 48
SBD-3 Dauntless x 34
TBF-1 Avenger x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Shinyubari Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Shinonome
xAK Atago Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Ayanami, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Teihoku Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Usugumo
xAK Montreal Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
150 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
15 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Junyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Shoho-1 with A6M2 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Shinyubari Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Ayanami
Massive explosion on xAK Teihoku Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Teihoku Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Montreal Maru

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 47,60

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 10

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 8
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Kinu

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Yokohama Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
5th Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 48,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 17
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
CL Isuzu
DD Hayashio

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 47,60

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 4

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CL Kinu
CL Natori
CL Yura

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
5th Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 92 minutes
Yokohama Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 95 minutes

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AFTERNOON - AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 4, 42
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Little Andaman at 43,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 109 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 42
B5N1 Kate x 17
B5N2 Kate x 29
D3A1 Val x 18

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 6
Sea Hurricane Ib x 6
Martlet II x 35
F4F-4 Wildcat x 63


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 6 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 16 destroyed, 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 13 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Formidable, Torpedo hits 1
CV Indomitable

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Little Andaman at 43,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 43 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
B5N2 Kate x 49
D3A1 Val x 61

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 5
Sea Hurricane Ib x 6
Martlet II x 26
F4F-4 Wildcat x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed, 14 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 25 destroyed, 15 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 1
BC Repulse, Bomb hits 3
CV Illustrious
CV Enterprise
CV Yorktown
CV Formidable
CV Indomitable

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
10 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
12 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Ammo storage explosion on CV Lexington

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Blair at 46,60

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 61
SBD-2 Dauntless x 17
SBD-3 Dauntless x 53
TBF-1 Avenger x 32


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
SBD-2 Dauntless: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 9 destroyed, 11 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 1
CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Junyo, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Mikuma
DD Asagumo
DD Yamagumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
11 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
6 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
15 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Ryujo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Junyo
Ammo storage explosion on CVL Shoho
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Shoho
Ammo storage explosion on CV Junyo
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Zuiho
Fuel storage explosion on CVL Zuiho

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Little Andaman at 45,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1



Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 38
Fulmar II x 6
Sea Hurricane Ib x 6
Swordfish I x 12
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17
TBF-1 Avenger x 15


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Albacore I: 1 destroyed by flak
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
Swordfish I: 2 damaged
Swordfish I: 1 destroyed by flak
SBD-3 Dauntless: 8 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CV Akagi, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
11 x Swordfish I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
6 x Albacore I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
9 x Albacore I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
17 x Albacore I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
10 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Little Andaman at 43,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 6

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 4
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
Martlet II x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Allied Flak and defensive fighters tore apart IJN strikes and left the once proud KB air groups in a shambles. most retired to Victoria Point after their ships were shot out from under them.
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SUBS: The subs catch nothing in spite of 7-8 patrolling the area.

BURMA: The phase of this battle I had hoped to engineer did in fact take place on July 5th. After the CV exchange the Allies were only 3-4 hexes from the IJN SAGs. I sent in everything, and the battles raged throughout the night. At one point a SAG of BBs engaged the US CVs, but couldn't get good hits for inexplicable reasons.

Still there was some success.

First an IJN SAG with 4 CA 4 DD met the Repulse and 4 CA 3 DD. The IJN left two CA in poor condition without serious damage to any ships.

Then the part that angers me, when Kongo, Haruna, Hiei and Kirishima plus Haguro and Nachi met the US CVs and didn't sink ANY of them. The Lex did get another fish in her belly, which proved important, but this should have been a massacre, especially when it got to 5k yards at 53% moon!! Of course the BBs didn't even fire their secondary batteries which is a bunch of BS considering they had the chance to even the CV score in one fell swoop. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I'll include the entire combat report to hopefully give an idea of the close range and length of this battle that should have gone much more our way.

How does that battle even break off when it does at 8k yards (!!!) when visibility is listed to 11k???

I then had DDs AVOID combat with the Brit CVs.

The BBs then shot up the two wounded Allied cruisers further, so there was some good ammo left that could have been used on the CVs, apparently.

Then the BBs find the Lex detached from the CV TF and give her a little push before the CLs come in and put another fish in.

RESULT: The attack I wanted materialized, and one US CV was taken down. It should have been a lot more. Those fast BBs caught the US fleet and had them at point blank range. This game simply doesn't allow for extreme circumstances to over-ride it's usual method of playing out those battles. Every piece of ammo in the Japanese fleet would have been unleashed on those CVs in any scenario approaching reality, and at least 3-4 should have been heavily damaged or sunk.

Instead, after two days of battling, the IJN comes out the supreme loser in this engagement. It's too bad it's not possible to over-ride certain functions like CV reaction, to say NEVER DO IT. In effect creating doctrine and drilling it into commanders that they have to stick to the plan. (I know not all did, but it sucks to lose everything because of this one small feature that is speculative at best in it's relevance to the game. Too much is at stake with CVs to let that much chance play a part). It's also too bad there is no special condition during which a ship will expend ALL of it's ammo, as in a surface engagement with CVs, rather than saving some for later. Even damaging those others could have let them be caught by other TFs and a few TT throne in to pile on.

I took a risk, set up a trap, and failed miserably. Of course I could have been more careful, played the game to not lose as quickly, let the Allies slowly grind me down, but this seemed a golden opportunity, and it turned out in that respect I was right. Whether it would work if run numerous times over and over taking chance differences into account is up to speculation. We'll never be able to control CV reaction, which is too bad. It leaves too much to chance.



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 5, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago, Shell hits 1
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 3
CA Aoba, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
CA Kinugasa
DD Nowaki
DD Shigure, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Murasame
DD Harusame, Shell hits 3, heavy fires

Allied Ships
BC Repulse, Shell hits 3
CA Portland, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
CA Northampton, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CA Houston, Shell hits 1
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 2
DD Patterson, Shell hits 2
DD Jarvis, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Maury
DD Tjerk Hiddes

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 53% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
CA Salt Lake City engages CA Kinugasa at 8,000 yards

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna, Shell hits 1
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1
CA Haguro
CA Nachi, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Arare
DD Akatsuki, Shell hits 1
DD Inazuma, Shell hits 1
DD Isonami
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Yorktown
CV Enterprise
CV Hornet, Shell hits 1
CA Astoria, Shell hits 1
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Scout
DD Tenedos
DD Thanet
DD Express, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Nestor
DD Nizam
DD Norman, Shell hits 1

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 53% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 21,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages CV Hornet at 11,000 yards
BB Haruna engages CV Enterprise at 11,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CA Minneapolis at 11,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CA Astoria at 11,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages CV Hornet at 11,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Nizam at 11,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages CV Enterprise at 11,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Akatsuki at 11,000 yards
DD Nizam engages DD Arare at 11,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Tenedos at 11,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages DD Scout at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
BB Haruna engages CV Enterprise at 9,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages CV Yorktown at 9,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CA Minneapolis at 9,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Minneapolis at 9,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Tenedos at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Nizam at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Nizam at 9,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Express at 9,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Tenedos at 9,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Inazuma at 9,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Scout at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages CV Hornet at 7,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CV Enterprise at 7,000 yards
BB Haruna engages CV Yorktown at 7,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CA Astoria at 7,000 yards
CA Minneapolis engages CA Nachi at 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CA Astoria at 7,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Norman at 7,000 yards
DD Nizam engages DD Inazuma at 7,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Tenedos at 7,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Akatsuki at 7,000 yards
DD Scout engages DD Arare at 7,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Inazuma at 7,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Scout at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages CA Astoria at 5,000 yards
BB Hiei engages CA Astoria at 5,000 yards
BB Haruna engages CV Yorktown at 5,000 yards
Fuel storage explosion on CV Lexington
DD Arare engages CV Lexington at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CA Minneapolis at 5,000 yards
CA Astoria engages CA Nachi at 5,000 yards
DD Norman engages DD Inazuma at 5,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Nizam at 5,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Nestor at 5,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Express at 5,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Arare at 5,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages DD Scout at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages CV Hornet at 8,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DD Tenedos at 8,000 yards
BB Haruna engages CA Minneapolis at 8,000 yards
DD Arare engages CV Lexington at 8,000 yards
CA Minneapolis engages CA Haguro at 8,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CA Astoria at 8,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Scout at 8,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Nizam at 8,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Thanet engages DD Inazuma at 8,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yugumo
DD Akigumo
DD Natsugumo
DD Shinonome
DD Usugumo

Allied Ships
CV Indomitable
CV Illustrious
CV Formidable
CA Louisville
CA Pensacola
CLAA Van Heemskerck
DD Craven
DD Gridley
DD McCall
DD Benham
DD Dunlap
DD Balch
DD Stuart
DD Vendetta

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 53% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range increases to 26,000 yards...
Range increases to 26,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat????

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
CL Yura, Shell hits 1
CL Kinu, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Abukuma
DD Yudachi
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
CV Indomitable
CV Illustrious, Shell hits 1
CV Formidable
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 1
CLAA Van Heemskerck
DD Craven
DD Gridley
DD McCall
DD Benham
DD Dunlap
DD Balch
DD Stuart
DD Vendetta

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 53% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
CL Kinu engages CV Formidable at 11,000 yards

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1
CA Haguro
CA Nachi, on fire
DD Arare
DD Akatsuki
DD Inazuma
DD Isonami, Shell hits 1
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Northampton, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Maury
DD Tjerk Hiddes, Shell hits 2

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages CA Portland at 11,000 yards

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1
CA Haguro
CA Nachi, on fire
DD Arare
DD Akatsuki
DD Inazuma
DD Isonami
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Northampton, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Maury, Shell hits 1
DD Tjerk Hiddes, Shell hits 1

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Kamiyama, T. crosses the 'T'
BB Kirishima engages CA Portland at 11,000 yards

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 11,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
CA Haguro
DD Arare
DD Akatsuki
DD Inazuma
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Shell hits 22, and is sunk
CA Northampton, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Maury
DD Tjerk Hiddes

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
CA Haguro
DD Arare
DD Akatsuki, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Inazuma
DD Isonami, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Shell hits 3, heavy damage
DD Norman


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 42% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages CV Lexington at 11,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CV Lexington at 11,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages DD Norman at 11,000 yards
Kamiyama, T. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Norman engages DD Isonami at 9,000 yards
DD Akatsuki engages DD Norman at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
BB Hiei engages CV Lexington at 12,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Norman at 12,000 yards
DD Norman engages DD Akatsuki at 12,000 yards
DD Norman engages DD Akatsuki at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 43,59, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Shell hits 1
CL Isuzu
DD Hayashio
DD Oshio
DD Arashio
DD Kasumi

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Norman

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The "CV" losses are irrelevant anyway and won´t change much. You have proven you know how to play defense. I think its time to start doing it now. I think he will try something bold early. Secure the Kuriles, DEI, Marianas. I bet you a beer he will try a fancy deep landing somewhere!

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Have just skimmed the post so sorry if I missed anything. Hockey ETA 38 minutes!!

The "CV" losses are irrelevant anyway and won´t change much. You have proven you know how to play defense. I think its time to start doing it now. I think he will try something bold early. Secure the Kuriles, DEI, Marianas. I bet you a beer he will try a fancy deep landing somewhere!


Not quite irrelevant! Thanks though, it's going to be very different trying to do it early with a lot less to spread around. Troops are already starting to go to deeper locations, btu there use isn't much this early to use.

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SUBS: No sub hits on damaged CVs! Amazing after this battle. Of course mine don't find Allied CVs or surface ships either.

BURMA: The aftermath of the battle of the Andaman Islands is as quiet as the days before it began. The Allied fleets retreat and there are no hits from subs on either side.

We have one little secret that is still viable, and I feel okay to speak of now after many days and resulting survival of some some very important assets. The Ryujo and Shokaku, battered and by all appearance lost during the battles, have managed to stay afloat and nearly gotten back to the Burma coast at Victoria Point!!!

I already have a fleet HQ there, am building the port and sending in the Combined fleet HQ from Hiroshima. The Shokaku has float damage in the 80s, high system damage, and is moving one hex at a time. The Ryujo is slightly better, with float in the 60s and it's already arrived in port and has been disbanded. The estimate for repairs that will get it to best seaworthiness is 65 days.

After Shokaku took 5 TT I was sure it was gone, and I'm sure Torsten thought so as well. So now at least if he splits CVs thinking we don't have much to challenge his fleets there could be a little shock when a 350-400 plane KB is still available. Not great, but better than nothing!

Total losses so far for each side:

IJN: CV Junyo, CVL Shoho and CVL Zuiho, DD Akatsuki.

Allies: CV Lexington, CA Portland, CA Northhampton

Bad for the IJN. Not a win. Not a complete disaster if Shokaku makes it.

CHINA: In China the big news is the DA at Sian and the complete collapse of the Chinese defenses. After months of siege and bombing the Chinese had high disruption and little supply. They folded in a 6:1 with almost 50k in casualties! Ouch!

Sian has NO industry remaining. I will rebuild the oil and think about the HI but most likely not expand that either.

IJA troops will no move South. A holding force will be left in the North, largely made up of the most damaged units. The others will be aiming for the Tuyun vector. Some free units not tied to Chinese commands will move to the Pacific and other areas.

PACIFIC: Small actions. A flight of zeros bombed some transports and likely sunk an xAK and an AM.

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Ground combat at Sian (83,41)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1880 troops, 233 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5276

Defending force 136146 troops, 857 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3601


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 97,131

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Mathew Luckenbach, Shell hits 2, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
AM Wollongong, Shell hits 1, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Sian (83,41)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 152738 troops, 1417 guns, 1081 vehicles, Assault Value = 5385

Defending force 133271 troops, 842 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3431

Japanese adjusted assault: 6128

Allied adjusted defense: 894

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sian !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
17618 casualties reported
Squads: 52 destroyed, 1630 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 158 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 222 disabled
Vehicles lost 112 (8 destroyed, 104 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
49366 casualties reported
Squads: 1806 destroyed, 238 disabled
Non Combat: 2582 destroyed, 238 disabled
Engineers: 510 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 212 (196 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Units retreated 51
Units destroyed 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Infantry Brigade
9th Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Engineer Regiment
58th Infantry Regiment
28th Engineer Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
36th Division
110th Division
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
32nd Division
3rd Tank Regiment
13th Division
41st Division
35th Division
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
37th Division
8th Recon Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
15th Division
11th Tank Regiment
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
North China Area Army
1st Mortar Battalion
12th Army
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Mongol Garrison Army
1st Army
13th Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
50th Chinese Corps
81st Chinese Corps
23rd Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
8th Route Army
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
12th Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
57th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
4th Construction Regiment
Jingcha War Area
15th Chinese Base Force
22nd Group Army
57th AT Gun Regiment
1st Construction Regiment
2nd Construction Regiment
12th Chinese Base Force
37th Group Army
39th Group Army
18th Group Army
3rd Construction Regiment
2nd War Area
7th Construction Regiment
8th Group Army
4th Group Army
34th Group Army
Red Chinese Army
1st War Area
36th Group Army
10th Chinese Base Force
7th Group Army
6th Group Army
4th Chinese Base Force
14th Group Army
24th Group Army
15th Group Army
56th AT Gun Regiment

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Torsten informed me has been ELECTED as a member of the local government, with the possibility of a seat in the Parliament! Congrats to him! He says it's a busy time and the game might naturally slow as a result. We'll see how it goes.

SUBS: Allied subs have been making contact a lot and getting virtually no hits on IJN convoys.

BURMA: The two CVs are now comfortably nestled in Victoria Point port.

The port is halfway to a level 4, and as much naval support as I can muster is moved into the base. Each CV is listing just over 60 days to the best seaworthiness available without a shipyard. The Shokaku will lily need another two months in Singers once finished here, assuming no Allied port strikes intervene. I've got 200+ fighters covering the base now.

An IJA division was snuck up to Kalemyo to see if it could take the base and hold on. No supply is moving up here, so it looks like this wil be a futile mission. I'll move on the base and then retreat across the river, eventually setting up in good defensive territory.

This gave Central Burmese bases a break as bombing focused exclusively on this unit for days. I also got to test out Tojos on LR CAP, but the Allied sweeps prove tough and get about 1:1 with our mixed plane CAP. He's got Lightnings in theatre now, which do slightly better when they come over on the 15th.

CHINA: In the North units begin to shift back to the rail line. In the South Liuchow falls and another couple Chinese units are trashed. The Tuyun defenses look stout, at almost 100k troops, as are those in the center around Chikhiang, so some maneuver might be needed in all areas to make any further gains.

Air units will transition to Burma primarily as well as the DEI and the Pacific.

PACIFIC: No movement or hints of coming attractions.

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Night Naval bombardment of Darwin at 76,124 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
CA Takao


Allied ground losses:
360 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22
Port hits 2

BB Ise firing at Emery Point Fortress
Emery Point Fortress firing at BB Ise

Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 58,42 , near Kalemyo

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
Lysander II x 12
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-26 Marauder x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 14, 42
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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 58,42 , near Kalemyo

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 58,42 , near Kalemyo

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

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Ground combat at Tienshui (81,38)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6865 troops, 34 guns, 294 vehicles, Assault Value = 302

Defending force 9398 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 84

Japanese adjusted assault: 197

Allied adjusted defense: 130

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
201 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
629 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 63 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 10 (2 destroyed, 8 disabled)


Assaulting units:
20th Recon Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment
26th Recon Regiment

Defending units:
40th Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 15, 42
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Afternoon Air attack on 21st Division, at 58,42 , near Kalemyo

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

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Ground combat at Liuchow (74,55)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15167 troops, 116 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 540

Defending force 10964 troops, 92 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 483

Japanese adjusted assault: 382

Allied adjusted defense: 126

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), op mode(-), leaders(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
423 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1216 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Assaulting units:
57th Infantry Brigade
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
115th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
31st Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 15, 42
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Ground combat at Liuchow (74,55)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14893 troops, 116 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 511

Defending force 10000 troops, 92 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 359

Japanese adjusted assault: 311

Allied adjusted defense: 62

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Liuchow !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
531 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2335 casualties reported
Squads: 110 destroyed, 44 disabled
Non Combat: 92 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 39 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 18 (15 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
57th Infantry Brigade
115th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
31st Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps

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Shokaku is going to look like this for the next few months, sitting in port having work done on the waterline, engines and internal structure to get it ready to move to Singers for more extensive work. Fingers crossed the Allies don't' get intel on it's whereabouts.
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SUBS: Neither sub force has been very active lately, but on the 19th two IJN subs in different areas hit small AMCs. Now that I see Torsten's penchant for poorly organized (or no) escorts, I will have to begin taking commerce raiding more seriously. I've basically been conserving fuel and subs for later use as combat scouts and hunters, but I'll put a small group of them together to sit near OZ and see what they can catch.

OZ: Allied troops retreat past Katherine as the Japanese walk in from Wyndham and begin to move NW on Darwin.

CHINA: Tienshui falls after a week of the Chnese units being broken down into ineffective shells. The North is secure and troops will move to a defensive stance here, keeping the LOC open for oil and supplies to flow. The Chinese tactics of suiciding wrecked corps across rivers continues at Sian as two Corps cross into 1k AV of troops. I don't think Torsten realizes this will only give him more mouths to feed as his supply becomes more limited and is essentially a counterproductive strategic policy.

The South and East are becoming solidified by intense bombing of his small raiding parties behind the lines and moves on the SE portions around Liuchow. The rail line is now connected and there are no interlopers trying to block it soon.

One small piece of the Chinese air force showed up and downed 9 Kates near Liuchow on the 20th. They apparently retreated to Chungking, as a few days later after crushing the Tuyun fields the IJAAF hit Chungking hard, destroying about 4 fighters n the ground and damaging a bunch more. A continued strategic bombing campaign trig to destroy supply will continue to hit the fields.

PACIFIC: Banshees showed up and hit two xAK near Cape Gloucester when the Rufes guarding the area didn't bring enough to the party on the 19th. A massive CAP of 20 Kittyhawks and 50 P-39 showed up at Port Moresby as well. A5M2 from Madang and Rabaul came over in waves, weakening the defenders on the 22nd and getting about 1:1, then finding a few on the ground when Bettys hit the following day, but no CAP was up. This hit and run is typical of Torsten so far. Now that I know more I'm prepared and can exploit this tactic with a quick response.

BURMA: The division attacking Kalemyo created the unexpected and welcomed concentration of all Allied air strikes for nearly two weeks now, letting more support, supply and fresh airframes get to units in the Irrawaddy Valley. I'm also nearing readiness to employ some offensive groups against nearby bases of Cox's Bazaar and Chittagong.

It looks like an Aussie division and other smaller units have been sent to deal with the situation at kalemyo on the ground, and they will arrive and knock us out shortly.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 18, 42
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Ground combat at Tienshui (81,38)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6917 troops, 34 guns, 294 vehicles, Assault Value = 305

Defending force 7378 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Japanese adjusted assault: 381

Allied adjusted defense: 106

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tienshui !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
2879 casualties reported
Squads: 177 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 175 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 22 (22 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
20th Recon Regiment
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
26th Recon Regiment

Defending units:
29th Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps

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Ground combat at 83,40 (near Sian)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1651 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Defending force 28066 troops, 238 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 972

Assault collapses, survivors seek cover


Allied ground losses:
2426 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 266 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
57th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
13th Division
110th Division
138th Infantry Regiment
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 19, 42
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Sub attack near Carnarvon at 47,133

Japanese Ships
SS I-30

Allied Ships
AMC Manoora, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

AMC Manoora is sighted by SS I-30
SS I-30 launches 2 torpedoes

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Sub attack near Koggala at 28,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-122

Allied Ships
AMC Pansy, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

SS I-122 launches 2 torpedoes
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cape Gloucester at 101,125

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1



Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 10


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Rokko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Lisbon Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
14th Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 20, 42
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Morning Air attack on 31st Chinese Corps, at 74,54 , near Liuchow

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 18

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75M x 2
P-43A-1 Lancer x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 21, 42
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Morning Air attack on Tuyun , at 74,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 55
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 74
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 78
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 21
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 33
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 72

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 78

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 20
P-39D Airacobra x 51


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet
17 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet
1 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chungking , at 76,45

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 75
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 103
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 30
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 18 damaged
P-43A-1 Lancer: 4 destroyed on ground
Hawk 75M: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 31
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 81

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 8000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
G4M1 Betty x 42

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 6 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14113 troops, 241 guns, 360 vehicles, Assault Value = 479

Defending force 11442 troops, 102 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 413

Assaulting units:
6th Australian Division

Defending units:
21st Division

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SUBS: No hits for either side.

OZ: Katherine pops over to the Empire without being invested as yet. Troops move toward Darwin.

CHINA: Just moving troops around and varying bombing runs to Tuyun, Chikhiang and Chungking.

PACIFIC: Banshees are behaving very historically. A whole flight of 9 was shot down near Long Island along with some Kittyhawks.

BURMA: On the 25th a LR CAP over Kalemyo netted me about 43 bombers and another 39 fighters for 26 lost fighters. Not bad. I let him get comfortable but tired, then threw all of my fresh groups in. Even got 7 P-38s reported downed. No bombing runs came in on the 26th!

On the 28th and 29th a few Fullmars came in to assess the situation. No LR CAP was on. No other bombing happened until the 30th when the oil field missions were resumed at night. Newly arrived flak took a small tithe from the attackers, coming a bit low at 6k. he did get 5 hits to the oil.

The division at Kalemyo was rudely kicked out of the next by commonwealth troops. Its a bit beat up, but nothing too bad. I'll leave it in the forest there for now. This mini-mission was a successful diversion allowing me to wrest control of the air and inflict some decent losses on Allied air forces.


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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 47
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 63
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 32

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 48
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-38E Lightning: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 37
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 42
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 18

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 37
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 24


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 32
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13



Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 11
Blenheim IV x 35
Buffalo I x 9
Hudson IIIa x 6
Hurricane I Trop x 6
Lysander II x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim IV: 9 destroyed, 10 damaged
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Hudson IIIa: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hurricane I Trop: 2 destroyed
Lysander II: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
14 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x Buffalo I bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb
3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x Fulmar II bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3



Allied aircraft
Audax I x 3
Lysander II x 27
Mohawk IV x 2
Wellington Ic x 3
Wirraway x 6
B-18A Bolo x 7
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 48


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander II: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged
Wellington Ic: 2 destroyed
Wirraway: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
10 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb
3 x Audax I bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 20 lb GP Bomb
4 x Wirraway bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 59,42 (Kalemyo)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6


Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 9
Blenheim I x 6
Blenheim IV x 12
Lysander II x 9
Hudson III (LR) x 12
B-17E Fortress x 11
B-26 Marauder x 3
B-26B Marauder x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 damaged
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
Hudson III (LR): 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
11 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Blenheim I bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 27, 42
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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15641 troops, 261 guns, 406 vehicles, Assault Value = 661

Defending force 11440 troops, 102 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 410

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 8

Japanese adjusted defense: 325

Allied assault odds: 1 to 40 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled


Assaulting units:
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
6th Australian Division
2/151st Combat Engineer Battalion Likely the only unit attacking to gauge our strength. Interesting.
43rd Cavalry Regiment
7th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
21st Division

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 29, 42
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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17466 troops, 264 guns, 687 vehicles, Assault Value = 750

Defending force 11424 troops, 102 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 406

Allied adjusted assault: 558

Japanese adjusted defense: 130

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kalemyo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)
preparation(-), fatigue(-), supply(-) I've never seen so many minuses for one battle!
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3441 casualties reported
Squads: 71 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 67 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 43 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 46 (46 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Allied ground losses:
266 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 31 (4 destroyed, 27 disabled)


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
43rd Cavalry Regiment
6th Australian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
193rd Tank Battalion
2/151st Combat Engineer Battalion
45th Recce Regiment

Defending units:
21st Division

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 23
Hudson IIIa x 6
Wellington Ic x 9
Hudson III (LR) x 9


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
7 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
8 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Long Island at 100,124

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
A6M2-N Rufe x 5

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 8
A-24 Banshee x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed
A-24 Banshee: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Hokuan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-24 Banshee releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Long Island at 100,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
A6M2-N Rufe x 4

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 2 destroyed

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At last I had a few moments to get this game back on track in the AAR. I don't plan to fall a month behind again.

Now come the hard choices.

Where to send my meager mid-42 defensive troops, as Torsten has every advantage and could hit anywhere as of tomorrow?

What lines to hold and what to give up as untenable in a game without the KB?

How to maximize what I have with LBA and organize around the most critical areas a mess of mutually supporting bases?

How to capitalize n the one advantage I have in 42, which is production of more good airframes?

I will post maps this weekend to update all theatres.

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SUBS: The Allied subs finally got a decent hit, sinking a big 12 knot TK near Balikpapan. ASW DDs are on the way.

DEI: Troops moving to defensive positions on Java and Sumatra. Only a few more dots to acquire.

CHINA: Big air strikes hit Chikhiang. I'll go for supply here for a while, start bombarding and see what kind of results we're getting.

PACIFIC: Nothing.

BURMA: On the first a set of sweeps went over Cox's Bazaar dealing out pain to the Allied CAP. This was the first concentrated Tojo outing and it was very successful. The follow-up bombing proved ineffective, and I need more air support in the Burma area to really operate enough bombers to make a difference. Still a good day with a total loss count of 25:54, IJ/Allied. The next day saw another night strike at Magwe hitting oil, and one Hurri sweep over Schwebo picking off two bleeding zeros. If he tries that again there will be a surprise in one group of zeros at range 0 on 60% CAP at 22k, just above his sweeps.

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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 7
Mohawk IV x 7
Kittyhawk IA x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 20
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIa Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.155 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk IA (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
49th FG/7th FS with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
Mohawk IV x 1
Kittyhawk IA x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 93 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 29
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 67
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 25

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed on ground
Lysander II: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23

Allied aircraft
Lysander II x 21


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander II: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged

Oil hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb
7 x Lysander II bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
Blenheim IV x 19
Hudson I x 9
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Sub attack near Balikpapan at 66,97

Japanese Ships
TK San Diego Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-14
AO Shiretoko
PB Kaiun Maru
PB Eifuku Maru

Allied Ships
SS O21

SS O21 launches 4 torpedoes at TK San Diego Maru
O21 diving deep ....

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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Here is the situation in Burma. I will not play forward too far, and I'l likely not put the same focus on stopping the Allies on the ground here as he has every advantage in landing behind the front.
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This NW OZ invasion has moved like molasses, but hasn't been challenged, so I haven't stepped up the effort. We'll be in Darwin in a few days. After conquering the base I'll get enough here to make a stand, build forts and also acquire Port Hedland, but then sit back and build the DEI. This is just a stalling tactic. I want to make him come overland with little supply or go by sea and risk some important shipping and troops.





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DEI: The bulk of the fleet is here patching up and refitting. Soon some will head to the Central Pacific to be some threat to anything he might send out there. Very nervous about that area.

Defensive preparations are underway everywhere. With Darwin in Japanese hands it's all about digging in now.

CHINA: Chikhiang is mercilessly hit from the air. I'll bombard on the ground soon to see how the troops there respond. If they look in good supply I'll attempt to move around them, heading to Tuyun or up the yellow road between. I'm sending a brigade to head for Mangtze as well. Trouble is I'll need a field there to fly more in if I get it. Maybe I'll wait just outside of range until other troops approach from the North toward Kunming if I can get that far. The main goal is to get the mountains, but it may be too late for that.

PACIFIC: Nothing happening.

My line across New Guinea and over to Rabaul and Namatani is shaping up with base forces and HQs in place. now the troops are needed. This may be moo though if the Allies simply go for something in the Central Pacific. I'll leave the Gilberts/Marshalls to survive with only a naval guard in each base and get more critical areas garrisoned as soon as possible. The Marianas are first on the list, and base forces as well as big engineer units are on the way. Infantry and tanks will be next. Then whatever guns can be scrounged up. It'll be a few months to get it all in order. I hope I have that long.

BURMA: Massed strikes go for oil again at Magwe, but hit nothing thanks in large part to thunderstorms and in very small part to one vaunted 12 plane Oscar unit flying at night.

In more exciting news our first offensive air strikes hit Cox's Bazaar. It accomplished little but at least served notice that the airfields of India are not safe.

My defensive strategy is developing here. I would like to stall with a few good units in the jungles until I see what is coming. Most troops will stay in Rangoon and Southern Burma. I have a feeling that with superiority on the seas the Allies will attempt landings behind the front in Burma, possibly as far back as Sumatra. Sabang is already well defended, but other bases in that area are in need of troops. There isn't much to go around in 42. Makes me think that if the Allies get an early offensive going and take a few bases, it would be difficult to knock them out at this point.

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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 63
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21


Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 2 damaged
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed on ground
Wirraway: 2 damaged
Wirraway: 1 destroyed on ground
Lysander II: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 83,40 (near Sian)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3139 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 40

Defending force 12262 troops, 110 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 426

Allied adjusted assault: 1

Japanese adjusted defense: 527

Allied assault odds: 1 to 527

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1400 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 69 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
40th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
13th Division

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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 116 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 62
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander II: 12 damaged
Lysander II: 3 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander II: 5 damaged
Lysander II: 1 destroyed on ground


Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Torsten is suing all kinds of crap over in Burma. I'm not sure why but it works for me as it get kills for the fighter pilots, swinging quality in our direction in mid-42.
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Status: offline 		Not sure if you have some small camera equiped ac to spare for northern Burma, but I would consider posting some at Lashio and Katha (I think its Katha between mandalay and Myitkyina) setting them on recon 2-3. I have tp check the IJAF OOB but we just had a discussion in John3rd's AAR and I believe there is a short range small photo recon ac available to you. checking....

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Not sure if you have some small camera equiped ac to spare for northern Burma, but I would consider posting some at Lashio and Katha (I think its Katha between mandalay and Myitkyina) setting them on recon 2-3. I have tp check the IJAF OOB but we just had a discussion in John3rd's AAR and I believe there is a short range small photo recon ac available to you. checking....

AhHa Idas


Thanks. Yeah, the Idas and Sonias have cameras, but they also die like flies, are very short ranged and aren't' dedicated recon planes, so the effects of the camera will be reduced.

I'm not too worried about seeing large forces moving around through the jungles. My Dinahs are doing pretty well, and I train up pilots for recon so good skill and experience levels, ~ 45/70.

I'm thinking more of Torsten's approach options. I just don't think he'll waste the time going through jungles when he has dominance on the sea already in mid-42. That's what I mean when I say wait until I see what is coming. It'll likely be something along the coasts or at the least down the Arakan road.

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An interesting few days with the first signs of Allied offensive moves in the Indian Ocean.

DEI: Just solidifying positions and trying to get some engineers and garrisons in place. I keep forgetting how little there is available at this stage in the game. The board seems barren after looking at my '44 map.

CHINA: As troops shift toward the SW I've begun persistent bombing of Chikhiang to disrupt troops and lower their moral as well as killing supply. Small Chinese units are still trying to harass behind lines, but I've been simply setting a bombing unit on them and letting it run for days until these small units disappear. He'll have more to feed soon.

PACIFIC: Nothing happening. I've gotten baseforces allocated to all of the Marianas and engineer units to all of the big ones. infantry will be coming soon.

BURMA: It's getting interesting over here. I began offensive missions against Chittagong on the 6th. Many sweeps eventually wore the massed defenders down and got about 1.5:1 on the day in spite of 110+ fighters on CAP. THe poor quality airframes really are hurting him. I also switched out the best pilots from all groups so they wouldn't die over enemy territory and to get some younger fresh jocks trained up and experienced. Worked so far with many new 60+ exp pilots after the day.

On the 8th I repeated the same and met 130+ fighters but did even better getting 2:1 for the day. Some 50 2E flew in (without escort, somehow not lining up) and bombed the fields after, using 7 bombers in the process. Altogether good work and should give us a leg up on both pilots and pools for the coming weeks.

The Allies also made a move, with CVs and surface elements showing up off the Andamans and invading Little Andaman on the 7th. The base had just flipped to our possession, so I sent in troops to defend by airlift in case he didn't bring enough thinking we had no fleet. Sure enough, looks like only base forces. Our paras did well, fighting off the base force units. I now must what to fly in supply and reduce disruption before going all out and trying to get this back. If he really wants it he'll get it, but I'll try to thwart him here.

I sent out two TFs from Singers; one big SAG with all four Kongos and the Yamato, another big SAG with 5 CA and 5 DD. They'll move up to around Sabang and Georgetown to see what happens. Our two CVs are still in port at Victoria Point. A ton of fighters are there and I moved more in, including Nicks for night defense as he's shown a fondness for night attacks so far. There is a DD TF on patrol in the hex in case surface ships move in, and Kates will be on night attack with TT as I can't let any fighters off of CAP duty to escort. Looks like interesting times!

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45


Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 12
Hurricane IIa Trop x 5
Hurricane IIb Trop x 14
Mohawk IV x 16
Kittyhawk IA x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 33
P-40E Warhawk x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.803 Sqn FAA with Fulmar II (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 2 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIa Trop (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 3 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 35000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
No.155 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 2 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
49th FG/7th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 5 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes


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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36



Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 10
Hurricane IIa Trop x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 12
Mohawk IV x 13
Kittyhawk IA x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 22
P-40E Warhawk x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 22000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 30



Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 9
Hurricane IIa Trop x 3
Hurricane IIb Trop x 7
Mohawk IV x 13
Kittyhawk IA x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 2 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42



Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 5
Hurricane IIa Trop x 3
Hurricane IIb Trop x 5
Mohawk IV x 9
Kittyhawk IA x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 2 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

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Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7583 troops, 51 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 347

Defending force 772 troops, 3 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 237

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 237 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Darwin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
655 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 72 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
113th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
8th Tank Regiment
16th Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Northern Territory
Emery Point Fortress

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Amphibious Assault at Little Andaman (44,59)

TF 181 troops unloading over beach at Little Andaman, 44,59


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Lewis AAMG (x2) lost in surf during unload of 118th RAF Base Force
8 Aviation Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 106th RN Base Force /2

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 12
Hurricane I Trop x 16
Hurricane IIa Trop x 3
Mohawk IV x 16
Kittyhawk IA x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 50
P-40E Warhawk x 31


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.803 Sqn FAA with Fulmar II (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 7 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIa Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane I Trop (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 10 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 29700 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
No.146 Sqn RAF with Mohawk IV (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 10 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.14 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
28th CG/11th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 15 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 16 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 41

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 11
Hurricane I Trop x 14
Hurricane IIa Trop x 2
Mohawk IV x 16
Kittyhawk IA x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 40
P-40E Warhawk x 26


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 38

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 8
Hurricane I Trop x 12
Hurricane IIa Trop x 1
Mohawk IV x 9
Kittyhawk IA x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 32
P-40E Warhawk x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 33


Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 7
Hurricane I Trop x 6
Mohawk IV x 7
Kittyhawk IA x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar II: 3 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 12

Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 2
Mohawk IV x 4
Kittyhawk IA x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 35



Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 1
Kittyhawk IA x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 2


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 29
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 26



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 42

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 54052 troops, 500 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 2939

Defending force 90279 troops, 512 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3257


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Little Andaman (44,59)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 789 troops, 21 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Defending force 347 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Allied adjusted assault: 2

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
118th RAF Base Force
221 Group RAF /1
106th RN Base Force /1

Defending units:
143rd Infantry Rgt /1
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /1


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Ground combat at Little Andaman (44,59)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 342 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Defending force 1508 troops, 25 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Japanese adjusted assault: 19

Allied adjusted defense: 23

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Assaulting units:
143rd Infantry Rgt /1
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /1

Defending units:
221 Group RAF /1
118th RAF Base Force
106th RN Base Force /1

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Even though we're playing with the modified 2nd best maneuver HR, where the defensive CAP is not limited by altitude restrictions, the Tojo is still having it's way over Burma.
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As usual after a successful battle I notice my opponent has written a note in his AAR after weeks away. I'm not doing much better with this one to be honest. Too much going on.

There has been a series of battle in the Andamand Sea. While I've done well against invasion forces, likely sinking a full combat unit and several base forces on troop ships, my attempts to engage the US CVs have led to misery. I've literally had four days strait of sending combat ships right at them, crossing paths, and making no intercept, then having not LR CAP fail. Even 4 fast BBs with Tanaka on board set to react at 6 hexes sailed right past them and ended up on the other side only to retreat right back past and get bombed on the other side where they started. It's infuriating, and has my moral pretty low. I'd say I'm about EXP 54, FATIGUE 79, MORAL 35 right now. Not much of a fighting unit.

I will go on, I'll just do it without BB Kongo, three CAs, a few more CLs and about five DDs. I've just had a 'come to jesus' turn where I increased all air production and bought out as many engineers and airbases as I can to be sent to the DEI. There will be no naval intervention of the allied progress in this game from here on out. I will fight in the air and on the ground. All IJN vessels will be parked in port unless escorting oil/fuel or resources/troops to and from the front. This will save fuel and make sure whatever I kill from now on will not be at a disadvantage.

I'm convinced he will come for the DEI. Why else would the USN fleet be here? Why else would he have gone for the Andamans?

I will pull back from all of the Pacific to the North New Guinea-Rabaul line and build heavily there and in the Marinanas, Bonins and Kuriles. The Gilberts/Marshalls will be left with one naval guard on each and nothing else. most are at level 3-4 forts now and that is high as they'll be.

I almost quit this game twice. Once on day 2, once yesterday after 4 SAGs all set to intercept at the spot where the US CVs ended up did not even interact with them and were blown out of the water. I won't quit but I will adapt. This will be a bit different for me, but I'll see how it goes.

< Message edited by obvert -- 6/10/2013 10:43:11 PM >

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 6/11/2013 12:41:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ouch! I went over to your opponents thread to read the combat report ... WOW.

OK, he doesn't post the entire reports, only snippets, so little possibility to analyze. BUT, it looks like you sent SCTF's into an area without CAP and with the enemy CV's. I hate to say this, but ...

Kongo's cannot catch US CV's unless he has put some slow BB's in his TF's; they are about 3 knots too slow. If he has completed his first upgrades to get radar, he will see you before you do and can react away with the DD's screening the CV's. The only way you catch him is in crowded areas, like the DEI, where the nearby isles can mess up the reaction. Out in the IO, he has too much sea room.

If I send any SCTF in against CV's, I have to assume they are kami's. Yes, there are probabilities that they will be successful. The issue is that if they meet any other ships or do not destroy the CV's outright, they will have used up too many OPs points to effect escape. They will be in range in the morning. The counter to that is to be able to mount a very large CAP over the SCTF, and I rarely am able to do which is I why I sent the SCTF in the first place. For all of these reasons, I generally use DD's with maybe a CL for these missions. As IJ, you have to try these when you get the chance ... even at 1:5 odds, I have to try.

This is a tough game you are in ... you had a miserable start and this one will be a real chore to finish.

< Message edited by PaxMondo -- 6/11/2013 2:34:31 AM >

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