Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

You are due an "I Sank The CAs!" T-shirt.

Nuh uh. Maya isn't on that list.

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ORIGINAL: Grollub
Yummy ... I wonder why these names fills me with that warm fuzzy feeling?

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

You are due an "I Sank The CAs!" T-shirt.

Nuh uh. Maya isn't on that list.

Round-off error.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

You are due an "I Sank The CAs!" T-shirt.

Nuh uh. Maya isn't on that list.

Round-off error.

Mikuma is missing too . For some reason, Suzuya was always my favorite. You leave her alone.


Weird that you sunk almost all of the CAs (including the Tones!), Joc, but no BBs.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 09, 45
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Submarine attack near Ningpo at 94,60

Japanese Ships
SS I-401, hits 25, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Miami
CL Birmingham
DD Yarnall
DD Wickes
DD Waller
DD Walker

SS I-401 is sighted by escort
DD Yarnall attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-401 forced to surface!
DD Yarnall firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Wickes firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Waller firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Walker firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Yarnall firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 5
J2M5 Jack x 4
Ki-83 x 20
Ki-100-I Tony x 12

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 624
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 8 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze
DD Yakaze
DD Tachikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 1
Ki-83 x 9
Ki-100-I Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 21
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Tachikaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Yakaze

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 11
J2M5 Jack x 6
Ki-83 x 7
Ki-100-I Tony x 11

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 600
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Tachikaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Yakaze

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

My least favorite phrase during Combat Replay is "Severe Storms." Sometimes I feel the weather is harder to defeat than my opponents moves.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Allied Navy
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I put down my TFs in a document to keep track of them. I have to at this point or I would forget half of it. I put down what ships are in what TF and what I named it (I chose an easy naming scheme). Also TF number, where it is and where I intend to send it. This is absolutely essential or things would get lost. I made it into early 45 before I had to start putting things down "externally". Its just impossible otherwise.

Now that most of it is gathering for the next battle I thought I share it with you. I might shift some ships around but this is pretty much how it will stay for the next battle.

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Carrier Forces
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Fast CV 1
CV Essex, CV Intrepid, CV Hancock, CV Bennington, CV Indomitable, CVL Belleau Wood, CVL Princton, CVL Monterey
606 Planes

Fast CV 2
CV Bunker Hill, CV Franklin, CV Valhalla, CV Viking, CV Indefatigable, CV Independence, CV Victorious, CVL Langley, CVL Cowpens
598 Planes

Fast CV3
CV Randolph, CV Ticonderoga, CV Shangri-La, CV Midgaard, CV Yggdrasil, CV Illustrious, CVL Baatan, CVL San Jacinto
608 Planes

CVE TF 1
17 CVEs
486 Planes

CVE TF 2
18 CVEs
478 Planes

CVE TF 3
18 CVEs
476 Planes

CVE ASW
6 CVEs
112 Planes

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Battle Fleet
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Fast BB 1
Iowa, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Missouri

Fast BB 2
South Dakota, Indiana, Massachusetts, Alabama

Slow BB 1
Maryland, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, Idaho, Califonia

Slow BB 2
King George V, Valiant, Queen Elizabeth, Renown

Slow BB 3
Arkansas, New York, Texas

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Cruiser TFs
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CA 1
Astoria, Minneapolis, San Francisco, Vincennes

CA 2
Canberra II, Tuscaloosa, Boston, Pittsburgh, Quincy II

CA 3
Dorsetshire, London, Suffolk, Chester, Chicago

CA 4
Cumberland, Cornwall

CL 1
St. Louis, Phoenix, Nashville, Honolulu

CL 2
Montpelier, Birmingham, Mobile, Miami

CL3
Pasadena, Wilkes-Barre, Vicksburg, Heimdal

CL 4
Biloxi, Columbia, Valkyria, Mjollner

CL 5
Gambia, Leander, Richmond, Helena

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Destroyer TFs
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5x 12 Ship Fletcher/Sumner TFs,
1x British DD TF
1x Mixed DD TF

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En route Luzon
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British
CV Implacable (81 Capacity needs plane upgrades!), 5 CVEs, BB Nelson, BB Howe, CL, Caradoc, CL Emarald, CL Kenya, CL Bermuda, 18 DDs + 2 CLAAs

USN
CL Duluth, CL Topeka, CL Oklahoma City CL Atlanta II. 13 DDs (varied types)

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F6F-5 Hellcat x 38
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 21

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

God this game sucks sometimes...extreme overcast.

This is the mighty strike that went after the BBs.

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F6F-5 Hellcat x 38
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 21

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total.

I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on.

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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total.

I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on.

It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war.

So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow.

Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then?

Thanks.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total.

I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on.

It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war.

So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow.

Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then?

Thanks.

Yes, except the CV/CVE TFs which has 25 ships. Every TF is set to follow Fast CV 1. All set to react 0. I only use single hex patrol zone for movement as I have found that ships tend to ignore "remain on station" I never ever use waypoints or full speed. Less things that can F up.

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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total.

I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on.

It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war.

So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow.

Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then?

Thanks.

Yes, except the CV/CVE TFs which has 25 ships. Every TF is set to follow Fast CV 1. All set to react 0. I only use single hex patrol zone for movement as I have found that ships tend to ignore "remain on station" I never ever use waypoints or full speed. Less things that can F up.

Ive noticed the same things on "remain on station" sometimes and have gone the same route as a 1 hex patrol. Especially SAGs.. they tend to actually react that way.

Thanks.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

The CVs are a bit of a special case. The fast CVs have 2-3 CLAAs each plus Fast TF1 and 2 have a CB each. The others are as they look. Every TF filled up with DDs to 12 ships total.

I think it was Nemo who did the testing but mixing ship types is basically not a good idea. I try not to mix different classes more then necessary either. So I don´t mix Clevelands with british CLs and so on.

It was Nemo. You are correct. I follow the same composition as much as I can.. hard to in the early stages of the war.

So EVERY TF you listed has DD escorts to fill the TF up to 12 ships.. I follow.

Do you have a dedicated ASW (the x12 DD groups I am assuming) that every TF follows, and everyone is set to react - 0? How do you use the retirement/remain on station setting then?

Thanks.

Yes, except the CV/CVE TFs which has 25 ships. Every TF is set to follow Fast CV 1. All set to react 0. I only use single hex patrol zone for movement as I have found that ships tend to ignore "remain on station" I never ever use waypoints or full speed. Less things that can F up.

Ive noticed the same things on "remain on station" sometimes and have gone the same route as a 1 hex patrol. Especially SAGs.. they tend to actually react that way.

Thanks.

To my knowledge, TFs set to Remain on Station will not react.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
To my knowledge, TFs set to Remain on Station will not react.

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ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg
Always stuff to learn.

So do I understand correctly that this:
TF1: 4 BB, 8 DD
TF2: 4CA, 8 DD

Is better than this?
TF1: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD
TF2: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD

If anyone has a link to a thread discussing Nemo's testing I'd love to read it.

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Morning Air attack on Tsushima , at 103,56

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 105
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16
Ki-84r Frank x 11
Ki-100-I Tony x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 11

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 12 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tsushima at 102,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 39
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 29

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 damaged
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
E Hiyodori, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kusunoki
E Yanagi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

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Ground combat at 80,58 (near Kukong)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 199987 troops, 3735 guns, 3235 vehicles, Assault Value = 7289

Defending force 108553 troops, 1244 guns, 381 vehicles, Assault Value = 3450

Allied adjusted assault: 4494

Japanese adjusted defense: 3268

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3613 casualties reported
Squads: 229 destroyed, 357 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 80 (38 destroyed, 42 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
5578 casualties reported
Squads: 49 destroyed, 825 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 343 disabled
Guns lost 206 (4 destroyed, 202 disabled)
Vehicles lost 53 (4 destroyed, 49 disabled)

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ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

Always stuff to learn.

So do I understand correctly that this:
TF1: 4 BB, 8 DD
TF2: 4CA, 8 DD

Is better than this?
TF1: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD
TF2: 2BB, 2CA, 8 DD

If anyone has a link to a thread discussing Nemo's testing I'd love to read it.