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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 1:54:56 AM

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Is it alright if i upload this as part of my orange mod theme?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 3:19:37 AM

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I have to say, I really like this mod! It's like the essential, if-nothing-else-use-this-mod mod, haha. Do you have any plans to update it with more races any time soon, or is where it's at where it will stay barring any updates to coincide with tool-changing patches?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 3:53:26 AM

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I have to say, I really like this mod! It's like the essential, if-nothing-else-use-this-mod mod, haha. Do you have any plans to update it with more races any time soon, or is where it's at where it will stay barring any updates to coincide with tool-changing patches?

Keep an eye on this mod: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3353200 , it basically is intended to expand extended to the race cap. It was never finished, but the author has resumed work on it.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 6:13:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: Inawordyes

I have to say, I really like this mod! It's like the essential, if-nothing-else-use-this-mod mod, haha. Do you have any plans to update it with more races any time soon, or is where it's at where it will stay barring any updates to coincide with tool-changing patches?

Keep an eye on this mod: .matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3353200 , it basically is intended to expand extended to the race cap. It was never finished, but the author has resumed work on it.

Oh, yes, I've been keeping up on all the modding threads and had seen that one. I have been keeping an eye on it, mostly because I know that I'll be using it once it's updated since I like having as diverse of a universe as possible, but also because I am working on creating my own races to add to the game (I may possibly release them as a mod once they're in a basic, stable state) and that means more race biases to figure out, haha.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 2:15:52 PM

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I have to say, I really like this mod! It's like the essential, if-nothing-else-use-this-mod mod, haha. Do you have any plans to update it with more races any time soon, or is where it's at where it will stay barring any updates to coincide with tool-changing patches?

The reason that I haven't added more races is because I am at a limit with what I can do to truly make the race unique and for the AI to be able to handle it's uniqueness.
If I can't make the race unique to play in some respect then I feel I'm not really adding to the game by adding another race, the races will start to feel generic and unnecessary.
I have enough art work and ideas about races sitting around, so I am not limited there.

I have offered several times these last few years for people to design their own races and I would find a way to put them in my mod but in all the times I have offered I have received exactly 1 submission. And at this point unless someone out there has an idea to make them unique compared to the 40 races we have I don't know a way to make them any different apart from aesthetically.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 2:52:37 PM

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I've added a patch for the mod for compatibility with the latest beta version of Distant Worlds Universe.

Distant Worlds Extended Universe Patch from 1.0 to 1.0.1

This will leave an erroneous directory called ->ylta under the designTemplates directory of the mod if you want to keep your mod directory clean you can delete it.
A full package of 1.0.1 will be uploaded later as well as package with the latest version of Das's Chrome UI mod.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 4:34:00 PM

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Are you going to include the new design templates for the original races from 1.9.5.2?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 4:37:19 PM

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Looks like you are right, I didn't spot it because it was putting the right weapon types because of research priorities, just not the right amount.
I will add a fix for the next game version where it looks like I will have to update lots of design templates anyway

For now they look like they are working pretty well even though they aren't exactly my design.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 5:09:22 PM

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Are you going to include the new design templates for the original races from 1.9.5.2?

Yep that is done, download links on the first page of this thread include 1.9.5.2 design templates.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 6:04:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: Haree78

I've added a patch for the mod for compatibility with the latest beta version of Distant Worlds Universe.

Distant Worlds Extended Universe Patch from 1.0 to 1.0.1

This will leave an erroneous directory called ->ylta under the designTemplates directory of the mod if you want to keep your mod directory clean you can delete it.
A full package of 1.0.1 will be uploaded later as well as package with the latest version of Das's Chrome UI mod.

Is this patch friendly to previous saves? Meaning, I have a 1.9.5.2 game going right now with 1.0 of your patch - will 1.0.1 break my save?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 6:08:13 PM

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Totally friendly, may take some time for the changes to filter in (as the AI updates designs), but it shouldn't have any negative effects.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 6:19:52 PM

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Totally friendly, may take some time for the changes to filter in (as the AI updates designs), but it shouldn't have any negative effects.

Cool, but might not matter now... lol

Playing the Ortain and my homeworld is now rebelling due to leadership change. I've lost many games in this situation.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/5/2014 9:45:07 PM

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This will leave an erroneous directory called ->ylta under the designTemplates directory of the mod if you want to keep your mod directory clean you can delete it.

Found that directory and deleted it after copying the files.

Thanks for the update with new designfiles.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended 2.0.1 released 38 races - 6/6/2014 2:17:25 AM

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Quick question. I've been trying to make my own races and I've been able to do everything up to the point of the troop/ship images. Just wondering how you made the individual ships and troops? Did you use a specific program, etc?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended 2.0.1 released 38 races - 6/6/2014 2:36:11 AM

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With the troops I took the original images for troops and edited them to look different, mostly colour difference because there is a lot of variety already.
With the ships a lot of them were used from other people's work that are credited on the front page. Some of them are from images off the internet or other games, then they need to be formatted in size, the background erased, then (after the resize) a blue line for the engines.

I used a free program called Gimp for the image editing work.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended 2.0.1 released 38 races - 6/6/2014 2:57:41 AM

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Ok that makes sense. I've been looking for a program I can do this in and I just downloaded Gimp. Hopefully it'll help. Thanks!

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended 2.0.1 released 38 races - 6/6/2014 3:17:54 AM

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Thanks, I'm having a blast with them. Are you going to do a pirate version of your mod, with more variety of pirates?

I havent seen all the back stories on your races, but what I've read I'm impressed. Have you thought about adding characters for each race, like the leaders, agents, etc?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended 2.0.1 released 38 races - 6/6/2014 5:35:42 AM

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What kind of variety can I bring to the pirates? I'm not sure, they already have all unique ship and base designs, and quite a few of the Extended races can be played as pirates. Did you have something else in mind?

I didn't add characters for a few reasons mainly. It's not really in keeping with the original game, and I wanted Extended to be the original game, just more variety. Also if I added a bunch of characters it will be them characters, every single time you play them, that seems it would get stale if you have a preference in race you always play. Me creating art work for a whole bunch of characters for 40 races isn't feasible so they wouldn't even feel much different than what you get now.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/6/2014 5:40:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: Inawordyes

I have to say, I really like this mod! It's like the essential, if-nothing-else-use-this-mod mod, haha. Do you have any plans to update it with more races any time soon, or is where it's at where it will stay barring any updates to coincide with tool-changing patches?

The reason that I haven't added more races is because I am at a limit with what I can do to truly make the race unique and for the AI to be able to handle it's uniqueness.
If I can't make the race unique to play in some respect then I feel I'm not really adding to the game by adding another race, the races will start to feel generic and unnecessary.
I have enough art work and ideas about races sitting around, so I am not limited there.

I have offered several times these last few years for people to design their own races and I would find a way to put them in my mod but in all the times I have offered I have received exactly 1 submission. And at this point unless someone out there has an idea to make them unique compared to the 40 races we have I don't know a way to make them any different apart from aesthetically.

I understand, sometimes diversity isn't so great when you're not really getting anything new. In regards to the submissions, which race was the submission? You mentioned it shortly before the release of the Universe update so it can only be one of the two Avian races, and my 50-50 gut feeling tells me that it's the Banoserit (well, actually it tells me it's the Yl'ta, haha, but I can't decide between the two and it's more likely in my eyes that the Banoserit was the submission that inspired you with its uniqueness to create the Avian RaceFamily and add the Yl'ta on top of that). And what exactly would you consider as adding something unique?

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended 2.0.1 released 38 races - 6/6/2014 5:46:12 AM

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What kind of variety can I bring to the pirates? I'm not sure, they already have all unique ship and base designs, and quite a few of the Extended races can be played as pirates. Did you have something else in mind?

I didn't add characters for a few reasons mainly. It's not really in keeping with the original game, and I wanted Extended to be the original game, just more variety. Also if I added a bunch of characters it will be them characters, every single time you play them, that seems it would get stale if you have a preference in race you always play. Me creating art work for a whole bunch of characters for 40 races isn't feasible so they wouldn't even feel much different than what you get now.

For the pirates I meant the race image. The vanilla game ones I find kind of ugly and they seem to be the same old 4 types w/o very little variation. Thanks for responding

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/6/2014 5:47:27 AM

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Other way around, Yl'ta was designed by PrismaticFlux who hasn't logged in to the forums since February so I guess he doesn't play any more lol.
I then designed the Banoserit after I saw what stuff was available through modding and thought of being able to make a fairly unique race with government type that requires you to keep a very high reputation and their scanner technology, I liked the idea of a race who's perk was they can see more of the Galaxy than others.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended 2.0.1 released 38 races - 6/6/2014 5:48:57 AM

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For the pirates I meant the race image. The vanilla game ones I find kind of ugly and they seem to be the same old 4 types w/o very little variation. Thanks for responding

Pirates are hard coded to use them 4 images. You can change the images through modding, but all smugglers will look like the smuggler image etc.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended - 6/6/2014 9:57:23 AM

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Is there any reason that extended includes the default weapon graphics? Are all the included help files edited for the mod or are they just base game duplicates? I'd suggest slimming the package down if these files are not required eg I'd prefer not to have clutter overriding the graphical mods I installed to my base folder when only torpedo_8 is actually needed as part of the mod.

Oh, missed torpedo_8. I removed the weapon folder as I was using another mod. Well, now I copied just that file back. :)

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/6/2014 10:49:53 AM

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I'm combining this to my other changes in my theme folder and i noticed sound file called "yorphaser". I wasn't aware you could set race specific sound effects, but will it cause any issues if i don't include this file?

Also i noticed that a torpedo 8 was mentioned, i do not see this in the included weapon file.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/6/2014 11:10:44 AM

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Those Lipid are horrific and should be nuked as standard policy.

Really they should be on exterminate policy with a big growth bonus modeling them taking over a host but they seem to be designed as friendly race?

I do not see them as friendly,lol.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/6/2014 11:14:36 AM

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I really like the Banoserit! They're great fun to play, and their reliance on reputation is *great* for role playing. So thanks :)

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/6/2014 11:19:22 AM

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Those Lipid are horrific and should be nuked as standard policy...

I agree! Nuke them from orbit....only way to be sure!

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/6/2014 3:47:03 PM

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Those Lipid are horrific and should be nuked as standard policy.

Really they should be on exterminate policy with a big growth bonus modeling them taking over a host but they seem to be designed as friendly race?

I do not see them as friendly,lol.

Well they don't hurt the host, really, although a certain amount of 'free will' is lost, but the host won't really be aware of it. Imagine if there was a pill that actually made you healthier, happier, more satisfied with life, make you feel like you are in a job that you love etc. Would you take it? What if it was just infecting yourself with a parasite?

Well not a parasite really by definition, I guess symbiotic life form? I don't know the actual term.

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/6/2014 3:50:30 PM

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@Unforeseen
Yes it will.

In modding you can set specific sound files to weapons now. Check components.txt.

@Tcby
I find them fun too ;)

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RE: Distant Worlds Extended Universe 1.0.1 released 40 ... - 6/6/2014 6:18:46 PM

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Haree: I have read a few references to new ship designs in this thread. Have you created new ship design templates for the races in your mod? Are the shadows era custom ship designs still enabled, or has the engine moved to the ship design templates only? Does DW allow a modder to create and save custom ship designs for the AI to use? Or is it solely limited to setting the number of components to use on each design?

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