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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 3:53:14 PM   
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Next day in the same hex. Why such a big drop off in interdict value compared to day one?




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 4:05:29 PM   
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Another monster day 1 strike
Flying at 22k so most of the Flak is out of range.
Those 50kg bombs are badass.




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 4:16:08 PM   
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Day 6 raid, intercepted over land.
Flak chewed on the raid a little.
120 p47 on AS for this hex




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 4:28:18 PM   
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One of the few patrol interceptions my fighters make.

I really wish they would try to engage enemy strikes over water.




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 4:34:15 PM   
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Some interesting interception results, note that it is 52nd fighter group on Air Superiority making these intercepts.




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 4:42:22 PM   
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Hrmm I wish my guys would do what I tell them to do . . .




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 4:56:36 PM   
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Here is a day one allied raid.
Pretty big number.

Germans get an intercept off on the return leg of the run. They must have pretty good water wings, pilots not afraid to play in sea hexes.




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 5:02:16 PM   
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Day 2 allied raid.

Respectable number compared to Luftwaffe day 2's

Not sure if there is Air Superiority up from the German side though




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 5:08:13 PM   
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Thanks for doing all the work trying to sort this out Baelfiin!

Something sure looks odd to say the least! Especially those P47 on AS appearing over land well outside the boundaries of the AD.

Hopefully Helpless can fix it.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 5:13:14 PM   
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Day one Luftwaffe off the eastern coast in the Adriatic.
Another good number for the resources invested.
Really weird how the same amount of planes on any day besides day one put up a much lower number.




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 5:16:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Thanks for doing all the work trying to sort this out Baelfiin!

Something sure looks odd to say the least! Especially those P47 on AS appearing over land well outside the boundaries of the AD.

Hopefully Helpless can fix it.

Well this is .11 and I am not saying anything is broken. All I am trying to do is note some trends that seem to me to be worth taking a look at.
I could be smoking crack and have a setting wrong on my air directives.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 6:01:08 PM   
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quote:

So what made day 1 special? Possibly great die roll?


Yes, as it goes from 0. Later it goes in much lower increments. I'm trying to adjust it that it won't be so sharp.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 7:47:23 PM   
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You can fix that easy by just stop smoking crack!

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/9/2015 8:29:30 PM   
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I mangle 9th ss panzer and shatter the zbv752.

One of the cool things about the weather system is that you can have different levels of mud and snow in different hexes.
I am able to load up on 9thSS from one hex of light mud and push them around. The zbv regiment was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I also made mistake last turn and invaded on the east coast of Italy. The bad weather saves my bacon as I am able to evacuate and get the heck out of the Adriatic hehe.
Some of my air force shown, lots more on sicily and further south in Sardinia.
Long range naval patrol in north Africa.




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/10/2015 3:46:39 PM   
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Nice work! Congratulations.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/10/2015 5:23:16 PM   
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We have a VICTORY PARADE planned! You going to have time to fly to Corsica for it?

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/10/2015 6:31:09 PM   
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quote:

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We have a VICTORY PARADE planned! You going to have time to fly to Corsica for it?

We can talk about parades if I get to berlin before the Russians do. -300 vps is not something to be cheering about right now


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RE: 2x4 High - 2/10/2015 6:48:41 PM   
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Never mind VPs(which seem to be off, anyways.) Speaking personally, I'm just glad somebody has figured out a way to gain traction on Pelton who has until now shut down everybody else, hard. If you can get anything resembling a historical outcome I call that a win for the allies.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/10/2015 7:16:18 PM   
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I'm feeling your pain! I'm on the May 17th Turn, and I'm still 16 hexes from Berlin. I just got my first clear turn since I can't remember. The Russians meanwhile are still 12 hexes away and have been since the first part of April. Only about 2 or 3 turns left.

Not Pelton.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/10/2015 9:01:57 PM   
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quote:

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Never mind VPs(which seem to be off, anyways.) Speaking personally,
I'm just glad somebody has figured out a way to gain traction on Pelton who has until
now shut down everybody else, hard. If you can get anything resembling a historical outcome I call that a win for the allies.


I screwed up unlike my other games.

This one I desided to see how far forward I could defend and lost 1 GD, 1 ParaD and 2 regiments.
This does not sound like much, but because of those units I was unable to defend all 4 of the key hexes near Rome only 3 with good CV.
The 1 para division was what I was missing on that flank on the other the GD division would have been part of the assaults, which again does not sound like much but it is huge on this small scale - unlike WitE.
A few lost divisions causes the manpower crunch and the old snowball starts rolling.

Bad moves on my part and good moves on his.

Unlike WitE, WitW the WA's can only take what the GHC gives them.




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/10/2015 11:15:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pelton


quote:

ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Never mind VPs(which seem to be off, anyways.) Speaking personally,
I'm just glad somebody has figured out a way to gain traction on Pelton who has until
now shut down everybody else, hard. If you can get anything resembling a historical outcome I call that a win for the allies.


I screwed up unlike my other games.

This one I desided to see how far forward I could defend and lost 1 GD, 1 ParaD and 2 regiments.
This does not sound like much, but because of those units I was unable to defend all 4 of the key hexes near Rome only 3 with good CV.
The 1 para division was what I was missing on that flank on the other the GD division would have been part of the assaults, which again does not sound like much but it is huge on this small scale - unlike WitE.
A few lost divisions causes the manpower crunch and the old snowball starts rolling.

Bad moves on my part and good moves on his.

Unlike WitE, WitW the WA's can only take what the GHC gives them.




That very well could have made the difference. There was one attack you made that another PG would have tipped it in your favor I think.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 3:21:23 PM   
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Germans are starting a large scale withdrawal. But it is doom and gloom for the rest of the front. Almost at -300 vps

Unfortunately I lost my screenshots that I was going to post due to windows deciding to update while I was passed out at the keyboard
The reconstituted 90th PG that I killed on turn 7 is back in my face so I mangle them as a reminder of why they surrendered the first time around.
Crappy weather closing in again however so my air horde is probably going to be useless again next turn.
Luftwaffe is continuing to put up pretty good interdict numbers in the sea off the beaches in the face of most of the allied air force. More transports dead this turn
Also 3 of the 5 beaches received no freight.

Oh and the Luftwaffe was able to open a path to the FJ at civitechia so they were not isolated at the start of my turn.
Maybe I will get the chance to kill them next turn.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 7:08:42 PM   
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16k freight delivered across all 5 beaches.

Pretty much no point in playing the allies if you can't get freight ashore with the whole allied air force flying in support.
50 Ju88-s can stop you in your tracks hehehe.




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 7:19:23 PM   
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My knuckleheads in the air force diced to intercept some ground interdiction and recon missions finally.

These p51 pilots should go back to ferry duty. . .




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 7:22:06 PM   
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Its usually easier to shoot down stuff from above then from underneath?

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 7:24:48 PM   
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well I guess air superiority does something finally.

not over water so we don't have to be afraid =p

P47's blasting away




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 7:30:32 PM   
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Discussion in another thread about air supply missions.

Dangerous to do into the front lines




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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 7:58:29 PM   
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Remember that heavy weather plays a large part in getting supplies to a temp. port. That's why it's unwise to invade when heavy weather is close.

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 8:26:48 PM   
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I am not sure of the sequencing but I got next to no freight last turn as well. The other heavy rain turn I had I got plenty

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RE: 2x4 High - 2/11/2015 9:42:43 PM   
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Your interdiction numbers are good, so the weather is the only other variable I believe that would affect the amount you get, unless Oran is dry, which I doubt. Did you take a lot of cargo ship losses? Did you notice?

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