Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Since I started playing in Ubuntu, I haven't gotten Tracker working yet. Haven't tried to be honest.

I did upgrade to the latest Ubuntu LTS -- 14.04. I have played around with the screen shot programs and paint programs.

Anyhow, here is a picture of my vehicle factories. I don't even want to look at how many vehicles I need, especially trucks. A bombing campaign here would definitely hurt, and I see the loss of motorized support having multiple bad effects...and no trucks in artillery makes them very brittle, although they don't seem to slow down any. Go figure.

Who knows what the 90-rd means?

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Taking Hokkaido, puts all of the scen1 engine factories within reach and I would recommend AFBs to
pursue that strategy if they go Hokkaido, depending upon game circumstances.

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Taking Hokkaido, puts all of the scen1 engine factories within reach and I would recommend AFBs to pursue that strategy if they go Hokkaido, depending upon game circumstances.

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ORIGINAL: Andav

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Taking Hokkaido, puts all of the scen1 engine factories within reach and I would recommend AFBs to pursue that strategy if they go Hokkaido, depending upon game circumstances.

Shhhhhh!!!!! Stop talking about this!!!!!

Trust me AFB, as the Japanese, we care nothing about engines. Nope. Not a bit. They are dead to us. Now Merchant Ship yards on the other hand, we absolutely care about those. Please don't bomb those. The war effort in 1945 could not go on without them. I sure hope this secret does not get out.

I am also living through the death hex north of Bangkok. I feel your pain.

Wa

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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Taking Hokkaido, puts all of the scen1 engine factories within reach and I would recommend AFBs to
pursue that strategy if they go Hokkaido, depending upon game circumstances.

I think just picking one main component of the supply chain breeds success ... I might propose for example burning down cities burns up supply and no supply no drawing planes from the pool.
I am not a JFB so I don't know the optimum strategy given the probably of getting a factory hit vs. manpower/fires eating away supplies and damaging LI/(HI)

But I am sure spreading out the attacks to hit airplane factories one raid and then engines on another .. then manpower given that the IJ in the game have lots of aircraft and pilots is a sure strategy for disaster.
The IJ can eventually exhaust the Allies bomber pools (as well as fighters)

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Thanks, Pax! Ask a silly question, You are of course correct.

As you can see, not much left r&d. But I am swimming in oil and fuel.

Unfortunately, it doesn't show the number of factories I turned off.

Taking Hokkaido, puts all of the scen1 engine factories within reach and I would recommend AFBs to pursue that strategy if they go Hokkaido, depending upon game circumstances.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Engines are getting critical. 2 months left of the HA 45 engine, only produced 4 yesterday. Tony, Judy and Myojo engines are out...can only afford to make Tonies every day, and Judies every other day. Jack production still climbing and I converted the first J2M3 squadron today -- but it is no wonder plane.

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ORIGINAL: MrKane

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Engines are getting critical. 2 months left of the HA 45 engine, only produced 4 yesterday. Tony, Judy and Myojo engines are out...can only afford to make Tonies every day, and Judies every other day. Jack production still climbing and I converted the first J2M3 squadron today -- but it is no wonder plane.

Actually, J2M3 is wonder fighter for me. I am keeping combat patrol at altitude 10-20K. With radar it allows to airborne part climb above incoming strike and get 2nd and 3rd wave join fight fast and create numbers superiority. N1K2-J is better dog-fighter but need more time to get airborne and join combat.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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Taking Hokkaido, puts all of the scen1 engine factories within reach and I would recommend AFBs to
pursue that strategy if they go Hokkaido, depending upon game circumstances.

I think just picking one main component of the supply chain breeds success ... I might propose for example burning down cities burns up supply and no supply no drawing planes from the pool.
I am not a JFB so I don't know the optimum strategy given the probably of getting a factory hit vs. manpower/fires eating away supplies and damaging LI/(HI)

But I am sure spreading out the attacks to hit airplane factories one raid and then engines on another .. then manpower given that the IJ in the game have lots of aircraft and pilots is a sure strategy for disaster.
The IJ can eventually exhaust the Allies bomber pools (as well as fighters)

I hope you are right. Jumping around sure is painful though, and I never manage to guess right with a couple of wandering sentai looking to trap him.

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ORIGINAL: MrKane
Jumping around is good tactic when you are fighting above pacific islands, however when you cities are burning it will be better to get superior numbers. Do not try hide your HI for dark hour, it is dark hour. Just rebuild your engines fact in place well protected like Tokyo/Osaka or Harbin.

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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

Thank you for the insights Alfred.

In my first game against NJP I took Ayuthia without opposition because my opponent saw my move too late. This is disastrous for the Japanese because the rail lines allow movement into the interior of the continent without actually taking Bangkok.

It eliminated any usefulness for the defense of the city.

I cannot imagine making Bangkok a target when I have to river cross anyway and I can choose between Heavy Urban and open terrain.

Make sure you do not leave this door open in any way.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

I wouldn't dismiss so easily the value of defending Bangkok to the death.

There are only two approaches into Bangkok.

1. Indirectly via Ayuthia which entails a preliminary river crossing into Ayuthia, or

2.  A direct river crossing into Bangkok.

The Ayuthia approach is the safer albeit slightly slower approach.  It is the approach the Allies should take and if they do, Japanese resistance in Bangkok itself will be much shorter.  The direct approach superficially might seem to be better but it isn't and is in fact Japan's best chance to hold the enemy for quite some time away from the Vinh line.

The deficiencies with the direct river crossing are as follows.

1.  A mandatory shock attack ensues.
2.  The Bangkok hex is a Heavy Urban terrain hex which is a 4x defence modifier, the absolute best possible
3.  The evidence to date is that the Allied army closest to Bangkok is worn out and in need of R&R
4.  A large component of the adjacent Allied army is provided by the Chinese 6th Corps.  Do not be fooled by its 660 AV.  It's firepower is quite low and is not an asset in a river crossing.

This means that prompt direct crossing commits a worn out army to a shock attack where its firepower will be quartered (compared to what it can bring to bear in the clear terrain hex of death against the worn out 14th div rear guard plus the attacker will get additional disruption just from the act of crossing the river.  Without knowing just how fresh the Japanese defenders in Bangkok are, the Allies have to factor in the high potential of a disastrous river crossing which may be successfully counterattacked.

If the Allies wait to recover before the direct crossing, so do you and because of the terrain benefit and auto disruption gained from the river crossing, your recovery is effectively at a faster rate.

But even a non disastrous Allied river crossing is very dangerous for the Allies whilst you retain an uninvested Ayuthia for you can quickly move a single unit due west and then cross the river into Bangkok trapping the Allied army in Bangkok.  There is no limit to the number of times you can do this trap door closing.  To guard against this part of the Allied army would need to not cross into Bangkok and this in turn reduces the weight of the enemy inside Bangkok itself.  All the time you can railroad fresh units into Bangkok.

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

I wouldn't dismiss so easily the value of defending Bangkok to the death.

There are only two approaches into Bangkok.

1. Indirectly via Ayuthia which entails a preliminary river crossing into Ayuthia, or

2.  A direct river crossing into Bangkok.

The Ayuthia approach is the safer albeit slightly slower approach.  It is the approach the Allies should take and if they do, Japanese resistance in Bangkok itself will be much shorter.  The direct approach superficially might seem to be better but it isn't and is in fact Japan's best chance to hold the enemy for quite some time away from the Vinh line.

The deficiencies with the direct river crossing are as follows.

1.  A mandatory shock attack ensues.
2.  The Bangkok hex is a Heavy Urban terrain hex which is a 4x defence modifier, the absolute best possible
3.  The evidence to date is that the Allied army closest to Bangkok is worn out and in need of R&R
4.  A large component of the adjacent Allied army is provided by the Chinese 6th Corps.  Do not be fooled by its 660 AV.  It's firepower is quite low and is not an asset in a river crossing.

This means that prompt direct crossing commits a worn out army to a shock attack where its firepower will be quartered (compared to what it can bring to bear in the clear terrain hex of death against the worn out 14th div rear guard plus the attacker will get additional disruption just from the act of crossing the river.  Without knowing just how fresh the Japanese defenders in Bangkok are, the Allies have to factor in the high potential of a disastrous river crossing which may be successfully counterattacked.

If the Allies wait to recover before the direct crossing, so do you and because of the terrain benefit and auto disruption gained from the river crossing, your recovery is effectively at a faster rate.

But even a non disastrous Allied river crossing is very dangerous for the Allies whilst you retain an uninvested Ayuthia for you can quickly move a single unit due west and then cross the river into Bangkok trapping the Allied army in Bangkok.  There is no limit to the number of times you can do this trap door closing.  To guard against this part of the Allied army would need to not cross into Bangkok and this in turn reduces the weight of the enemy inside Bangkok itself.  All the time you can railroad fresh units into Bangkok.

Alfred

I never really built the forts.

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A large component of the adjacent Allied army is provided by the Chinese 6th Corps.
Do not be fooled by its 660 AV. It's firepower is quite low and is not an asset in a river crossing.

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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A large component of the adjacent Allied army is provided by the Chinese 6th Corps.
Do not be fooled by its 660 AV. It's firepower is quite low and is not an asset in a river crossing.

I thought the calculation for subsequent river shock attacks was based on AV .. that is if the AV is less than 1/2 of the stuff in the hex no shock attack for oncoming secondary river crossers?

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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A large component of the adjacent Allied army is provided by the Chinese 6th Corps.
Do not be fooled by its 660 AV. It's firepower is quite low and is not an asset in a river crossing.

I thought the calculation for subsequent river shock attacks was based on AV .. that is if the AV is less than 1/2 of the stuff in the hex no shock attack for oncoming secondary river crossers?

I think you are confusing Alfred's premise...i.e. Chinese division makeup and its effectiveness in making a forced river crossing.

I have seen huge Chinese armies in other AARs get absolutely mauled in offensive river crossings. It is the TOE.

The secondary river crossing (from the same hexside) depends on whether a bridgehead was established in the first crossing. It is very confusing topic itself, but has nothing to do with Alfred's original post.

PS: That is my understanding.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Well, you can see with the arrival of all the troops from the hex of death, supply has dropped to a !

So I am unprepared to take advantage of castle Bangkok. Plus the forts are substandard. Black market no doubt. Or greed. Maybe incompetence.